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Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:30 PM Mar 2016

To Bernie supporters: Since we're doing indictment what-ifs, I have one I'm curious about

If you think there is a better than 50% chance of Clinton getting indicted at some point, and it doesn't happen before she secures the nomination... would you support a unity ticket of Clinton/Sanders so he can take over if she does get indicted?

Keep in mind that if it doesn't happen at all, he will faithfully serve out his time as her running mate and, hopefully, VP.

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To Bernie supporters: Since we're doing indictment what-ifs, I have one I'm curious about (Original Post) Godhumor Mar 2016 OP
Looks very unlikely that Clinton will be charged with anything, according to legal experts. yardwork Mar 2016 #1
Thanks for this. VERY much appreciated. riversedge Mar 2016 #5
You are welcome! yardwork Mar 2016 #12
Well aware of that, but there are a number of hypothetically getting played out Godhumor Mar 2016 #6
I agree. Follow Bernie's lead and don't touch this subject Xipe Totec Mar 2016 #8
have you seen this nytimes article?? riversedge Mar 2016 #10
Yes, I just saw that too. Looks like this is winding down. yardwork Mar 2016 #13
Then Sanders should have run as an Independent from the beginning. nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #21
What does that have to do with my post? yardwork Mar 2016 #23
I don't think so, and I hope that does not happen. djean111 Mar 2016 #2
No way Mrs. Clinton nichomachus Mar 2016 #3
No I wouldn't. PyaarRevolution Mar 2016 #4
The disdain for a people's candidate has already been displayed. mmonk Mar 2016 #7
The party would never allow it. noamnety Mar 2016 #9
I don't think that they are a compatible team virtualobserver Mar 2016 #11
What if Bernie gets indicted over the FEC shenanigans? MaggieD Mar 2016 #14
Then everybody is indicted! Godhumor Mar 2016 #17
LOL! MaggieD Mar 2016 #19
No Lifeguard on Duty ... Swim at Your Own Risk NurseJackie Mar 2016 #20
Ugh, it is so, so, so unlikely that she will be indicted. Vattel Mar 2016 #15
Sanders...work for a corporatist president? HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #16
Fuck no. TM99 Mar 2016 #18
Ha! :-D NurseJackie Mar 2016 #22
I'm going to go with what Sanders himself said... JackRiddler Mar 2016 #24

yardwork

(61,619 posts)
1. Looks very unlikely that Clinton will be charged with anything, according to legal experts.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:32 PM
Mar 2016

Washington Post article today quotes legal experts who opine that the investigation is coming to a close, and it's unlikely that Clinton will be indicted or charged with anything:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511406550#post25

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
6. Well aware of that, but there are a number of hypothetically getting played out
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:35 PM
Mar 2016

In GDP. Figured I would add another one.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
8. I agree. Follow Bernie's lead and don't touch this subject
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:35 PM
Mar 2016

There's plenty of substantive policy differences to discuss.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. I don't think so, and I hope that does not happen.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:34 PM
Mar 2016

That would just sideline Bernie from his work in Congress.

How can there be a unity ticket? Would I be asked to support just a little war, just a little fracking, just a little Third Way cutting of social programs, just a little TPP, just a few more H-1B visas?

The issues are there, and I do not believe a word that comes out of Hillary's mouth.

So no.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
3. No way Mrs. Clinton
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:34 PM
Mar 2016

Would go for that. Bernie is smarter, more popular, and more principled than she is. That would become painfully evident if he was her VP. All eyes must be on her at all times.

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
4. No I wouldn't.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:35 PM
Mar 2016

Like one former VP said, "Being VP is like a bucket of warm spit" plus we wouldn't have him in Congress then and he would likely be replaced by an establishment stooge.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
9. The party would never allow it.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:36 PM
Mar 2016

And neither would Hillary - because he would expose any fraud he saw.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
11. I don't think that they are a compatible team
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:36 PM
Mar 2016

VP needs to be an attack dog that is in sync in terms of policy with the P.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
14. What if Bernie gets indicted over the FEC shenanigans?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:39 PM
Mar 2016

It's about as likely. Let's talk about that.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
17. Then everybody is indicted!
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:41 PM
Mar 2016

It's like Oprah:

You get an indictment!

And you get an indictment!

And you get an indictment!

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
15. Ugh, it is so, so, so unlikely that she will be indicted.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:40 PM
Mar 2016

If she was, it would probably be a consequence of some stupid application of the law, and I would be sympathetic to Clinton's predicament. Of course, speaking very hypothetically and being a Sanders supporter, I think getting him on the ticket would be great.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
16. Sanders...work for a corporatist president?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:41 PM
Mar 2016

I think he has far more integrity than that. There's also the issue of becoming entangled in 4 years of Clinton drama and scandals that's unappealing to him.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
18. Fuck no.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:41 PM
Mar 2016

They are oil and water. It won't happen.

Despite the Clinton supporters spin, the FBI investigation is serious. It is irrelevant if the server was hacked or not (and trust me it is easier than most know to cover your tracks if it was hacked!). Classified information and likely now passwords were shared inappropriately. The IT guy she hired has cut a deal. That is never good for those who hired him.

Let it run its course. Sanders will stand in until the convention. If she is indicted and drops out, Sanders takes the nomination. If she isn't, we see how the primary finishes out.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
24. I'm going to go with what Sanders himself said...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:49 PM
Mar 2016

her e-mails are a distraction. I'd add a) to sabotage the favorite (so far) and b) to suck the air away from any hint of a real issue affecting the lives of the people.

I think an indictment is unlikely (and a false hope for those of us who want to prevent the corporatist presidency of Clinton II). But this will be never ending. The media and Republicans have a formula they've run many times before. They've been running for what feels like 10 years with the "Bengazi" bullshit already. Like Blll Clinton's affairs and Whitewater, bullshit scandals that may have some basis but serve to hide the real crimes, which are bipartisan (e.g., banking deregulation to set up the epic frauds of the 2000s, or the bloody destruction of the nation of Libya, to name one in which Clinton played a heavy role).

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