Why?

[Triana]

Why is it that Republicans have ZERO problem elevating their "non-establishment" candidate to the nomination while Democrats struggle like Hell to get a non-establishment candidate the nomination?

GOP voter turnout breaking records while Dem turnout is - even with the spectre of Trump, Cruz or Rubio in the White House - dismal as hell?

Discuss.

[MaggieD]

1. Because most Dem voters aren't extremists

That's what makes us more sane and more able to accomplish things than them.

[JonLeibowitz]

3. Are you implying Sanders supporters are insane extremists?

Seems that way to me.

[JaneyVee]

14. No, but Donald's are.

[NCTraveler]

17. Perfect highlight. Nt

[Luminous Animal]

9. Democratic votera aren't turning out for Hillary, either. Democratic turn out is dismally low.

[JudyM]

19. Hillary isn't inspiring people except her existing fan base and has dampened Bernie's turnout with

the whole inevitability vs unelectability meme. Plus other false representations she's promoting about Bernie, e.g., effectiveness, dismantle ACA, etc.

She may well get the nom at the expense of the party. If that happens, I hope she enjoys the rest of her life with that bitter satisfaction.

While the rest of us struggle to endure the effects of a more neocon coat tailed congress, Supreme Court and erosion of rights and values we hold dear.

[Armstead]

15. What have we accomplished that means much that isn't tailored to placate the GOP...

...and Big Corps and Wall St?

And who controls Congress and most state governments?

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

18. Evidence suggests otherwise. The political center continues to be pulled to the right

and Dems are fighting battles they thought they won decades ago: abortion, New Jim Crow laws. Third Way Dems align with Rs on all issues EXCEPT social. Maybe getting things done means voting with Rs (moving the political center to the right).

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

2. I'm sure the media has a lot to do with it

They were pumping Trump 24/7 for months on end while Bernie got barely a mention

[RufusTFirefly]

4. Further evidence that the game is rigged

retrowire recently made made a good point in another thread

The media is saying that Hillary has "secured the nomination" and that Bernie should pack it up.

But somehow that logic doesn't work in the Republican race where they don't exactly want Trump to win.

On THAT side, they're saying Cruz (who lost by greater margins than Bernie lost to Hillary) "lives to fight another day".

Yet, they don't apply that logic to Bernie. No, he's done for. See how that's backwards?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1395085

[2pooped2pop]

5. Media

[yodermon]

6. Trump was already a celebrity. We should've run George Clooney

to compete with that.

Hillary has the name recognition but massive unfavorables (fair or not).

[OZi]

7. Which one poses the most threat to the oligarchs?

[Triana]

13. Sanders. n/t

[bigtree]

8. the public's appetite for 'non-establishment' candidates

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...is mostly a republican thing.

Democrats have never made anti-government their thing. That's what the anti-establishment drive in this election, in particular, has represented to most Democrats; especially those who have relied on that establishment to defend basic rights and expand on the progress made over generations.

[Barack_America]

10. Anti-establishment is an Independent thing.

Plan on winning without them? Good luck.

[bigtree]

12. our needs and interests precede our politics

...for most working folks like myself.

[Armstead]

16. Those are inseperable

[Hydra]

11. We're getting the wrong kind of Gov't from the establishment of both parties

Massive war spending, domestic spying, Big business free rides.

The anti's want those priorities turned upside down. Establishment supporters think everything would be fine with a few tweaks.

And you're wrong about Dems not trying to sell anti-gov. One of Obama's biggest mistakes was to depend on the private sector to lead the recovery. Public sector? What do we need that for?

[Cal33]

20. And how about who's watching those counting the votes?