2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie is attracting conservative primary voters who want 'less liberal' policies
By Ed Kilgore
Amidst all of the talk about the legitimately important phenomenon of self-identified liberals (or "very" liberals) showing up in the Democratic presidential primaries, there's something in the shadows that also should be noted: Bernie Sanders is receiving significant support from the small but (in some states) significant share of Democratic primary voters who do not identify as liberal or as moderate, but as conservative.
In Oklahoma, Sanders's most impressive Super Tuesday trophy, 19 percent of Democratic primary voters described themselves as "conservative." They went for Bernie 54/22. Coming at ideology from another angle, 28 percent of Oklahoma primary voters said they'd prefer the next president "change to less liberal policies" than Obama's. They went for Sanders 59/24.
In Massachusetts, there weren't enough self-described "conservatives" in the exit poll sample to create a candidate preference finding. But asked the same question as in Oklahoma about the policies of the next president, 16 percent opted for "less liberal policies." They went for Sanders 60-38.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/03/sanders-attracting-conservative-primary-voters.html
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Very liberal voters have preferred Hillary.
DU is not representative of the real world.
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Hillary Clinton leads with 56% to 28% for Bernie Sanders and 9% for Martin O'Malley. Clinton has dropped slightly since our last poll from 59% to 56%, while Sanders (26% to 28%) and O'Malley (7% to 9%) have each seen 2 point gains in their support. Clinton leads with every group we track. The race is closer among younger voters (50/35), white voters (51/33), and 'very liberal' voters (55/36). Clinton has more dominant advantages with seniors (68/21), African Americans (67/17), and voters who identify as just 'somewhat liberal' (65/23).
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/12/trump-leads-grows-nationally-41-of-his-voters-want-to-bomb-country-from-aladdin-clinton-maintains-bi.html
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)You can say that again!!
Go, Hillary! We love you!
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Thank you in advance.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)who dislike Clinton.
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)a socialist, communist, etc., etc., for over 20 years, so they figure she must be bad, and therefore the enemy of my enemy is my friend? That's my interpretation. Very odd though.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Oh well. What goes around...
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Oklahoma still has 882,686 registered Democrats. Those in my family are pretty conservative. I would not be surprised if they made their choice becasue Sanders is a man. The vast majority of my Oklahoma family will vote for the Republican in November.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Republicans." - Presidential candidate Barack Obama, in the year 2008.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)People want populist change and they are going to vote for it in the general election.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)small donors,
states outside the South,
independents,
young people,
people who don't watch cable news
and now
crossover electability are "bad"
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)like...
Fixing a broken system is more important than sticking to strict conservative or liberal lines.
and
vintx
(1,748 posts)and that's what Bernie offers, or so it seems to me.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)voters than Clinton.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Ben Stein, Christy todd Whitman, Max Boot and of course her old pal Henry Kissinger to name a few..... but that is good.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 4, 2016, 07:54 PM - Edit history (1)
issues because their faith in the government has plummeted to a dishearteningly low level.
This is why some conservative voters are nevertheless supporting Sanders - they may not agree with him on all issues but they don't feel like he is lying to them.
I would also add that getting money's influence out of politics and doing away with legalized bribery shouldn't be pigeonholed. i.e. neither ignored nor locked into a specific political leaning.
Number23
(24,544 posts)But this has been noted over and over and over again. Hillary is doing and has always done exceptionally well among liberals.
Interesting. K&R
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)FWIW, my libertarian boyfriend said that he would prefer Sanders over Clinton or Trump because he thinks Sanders is at least honest and not in the pocket of Wall Street. I have not been able to convince him to switch his registration and vote for him in the primary, but there may be other people like him who are doing so.
A few of these votes may be coming from Republicans who are voting for Sanders because they think he will be a weaker general election candidate, but given how intense the competition is on the Republican side I would doubt there would be a lot of strategic crossovers.