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You Know What Republican Has Been Absolutely Kicking Himself for the Last Several Weeks? (Original Post) On the Road Feb 2012 OP
I doubt it. MrSlayer Feb 2012 #1
Yeah, But He Wanted to Run Strongly Enough to Announce Fairly Early On the Road Feb 2012 #5
You don't know Tim Pawlenty like we know Tim Pawlenty. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2012 #17
Pawlenty isn't crazy enough to compete. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #2
NO! As governor, he presided over a major bridge collapse on his watch! CTyankee Feb 2012 #14
That's a point in his favor in Republican circles. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #16
We don't have county government (altho we have "counties") in CT so I don't know CTyankee Feb 2012 #18
Here's the story-- Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #19
there was a lot of taxpayers in New Haven screaming after our incompetent Mayor caused the CTyankee Feb 2012 #21
I say Huntsman Ebadlun Feb 2012 #3
Huntsman Had His Shot On the Road Feb 2012 #6
The Repiglickins Don't Do Sane. They Don't Even Pretend to Anymore. They Don't Have To. AndyTiedye Feb 2012 #7
Huntsman was just Romney-lite customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #12
The Wizard!? Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #15
I'd go for Mitch Daniels sharp_stick Feb 2012 #4
Whatever Mitch Daniels's Chances Would Have Been On the Road Feb 2012 #8
Pawlenty: Just an empty suit Bosso 63 Feb 2012 #9
He is Indeed an Empty Suit -- a Bland, Personable Representative of the Party's Mainstream On the Road Feb 2012 #10
I don't think Pawlenty really wanted to win this go around after seeing the field and musicblind Feb 2012 #11
He was out of money Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #13
Pawlenty wouldn't have gone anywhere either. He isn't nutty enough. WI_DEM Feb 2012 #20
 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
1. I doubt it.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 08:28 PM
Feb 2012

You don't quit a race you really want to win after a bought straw poll. He's probably happy to be away from this craziness.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
5. Yeah, But He Wanted to Run Strongly Enough to Announce Fairly Early
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 08:46 PM
Feb 2012

At the point he dropped out, he looked like a lightweight who had his moment, had to climb over a number of more popular candidates, and was never going to get above single digits.

If he were still in the running, however, he would probably be something of a savior now. He might very well be in the lead in this strange race.

Pawlenty may have no outstanding qualifications, but he was a governor, is personable, seems relative normal, and unlike the other candidates seems to have no qualities that would cause him to self-destruct. He doesn't have Romney's flip-flops and relatively liberal record, Santorum's extreme positions on birth control and other social issues, the complete dickishness and serial marriages of Gingrich, or the isolationism and economic fantasies of Ron Paul.

At the beginning of the campaign, Pawlenty seemed to be an also-ran. At this point, he looks like a superior candiate to anyone in or out of the race. JMO.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,734 posts)
17. You don't know Tim Pawlenty like we know Tim Pawlenty.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 09:46 AM
Feb 2012

He's Rick Santorum who's managed to suppress the crazy in public; he's Mitt Romney who'll do and say anything to pander to whomever needs to be pandered to. His dickishness doesn't come out on TV like Newt's, but it's there. In fact, he's as mean as a snake (no offense to snakes) - he cut funding for schools and a state medical insurance program for the poor to avoid raising taxes on the rich. And then there was that freeway bridge collapse - Timmy doesn't like spending money on infrastructure, either.

He might have had a chance if he hadn't dropped out because he doesn't seem as mean and crazy as the others. But he is.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
2. Pawlenty isn't crazy enough to compete.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 08:35 PM
Feb 2012

Stupid is no longer enough to make it as a Republican. If you can't do batshit crazy, nobody's interested.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
14. NO! As governor, he presided over a major bridge collapse on his watch!
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:39 AM
Feb 2012

That disqualifies him for any further government service in my book! It doesn't look too great on the old resume, right?

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
16. That's a point in his favor in Republican circles.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 09:21 AM
Feb 2012

Proves he's not wasting money on infrastructure when it could go to better purposes like tax cuts for the rich. When Walker was Milw County Exec, a big piece of concrete fell off some unmaintained public building & injured someone. It proved he had the right stuff to be Gubner.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
18. We don't have county government (altho we have "counties") in CT so I don't know
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:07 AM
Feb 2012

first hand. But my husband is from WI and has a friend who is a county exec. I can't believe that the exec. and his/her board wouldn't have some idea of infrastructure oversight, the same as a mayor would have. Lawsuits resulting in higher taxes for the county come to mind.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
19. Here's the story--
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:15 AM
Feb 2012
http://m.host.madison.com/mobile/article_c39eb339-4650-5066-ad10-5825b55f4611.html


If we aren’t going to talk about the dangerous consequences of deteriorating infrastructure when there is a fatal accident, when are we going to talk about it?
The least important fact about the tragic accident that killed a 15-year-old boy on his way to Summerfest is that it comes at a politically inconvenient time for County Executive Scott Walker, who is running for governor.

Young Jared Kellner was crushed when a 27,000-pound slab of concrete fell from the outside of a county parking garage built under O’Donnell Park on Milwaukee’s lakefront.
The most important concern, of course, is why 13.5 tons of decorative concrete on the exterior of a county structure were so unstable as to fall into a crowd on the first day of Summerfest.

Questions immediately were raised -- as they should be -- about whether more than $200 million in deferred maintenance in Milwaukee County parks may have contributed to unsafe conditions. It is no secret that infrastructure all over America has been neglected for years as politicians everywhere in both major parties have put cutting taxes above most other public concerns. Walker simply represents a more extreme version of that philosophy. The enormous deferral in county park and building maintenance seemed to have no political consequences for him when all it meant was deterioration of one of the nation’s premier park systems and trashy public buildings.

It’s difficult to rally the public against gradual decline in our quality of life. But a tragedy is a shock to the system. Nobody gets excited about our deteriorating roads and bridges, either, until a bridge collapses and people are killed.

Some reporters immediately focused on a consultants’ report completed late last year warning county officials the O’Donnell parking garage needed nearly $600,000 in repairs for multiple problems including cracking walls.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
21. there was a lot of taxpayers in New Haven screaming after our incompetent Mayor caused the
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:40 AM
Feb 2012

lawsuit Rizzo v. DeStefano which went to SCOTUS a couple of years ago. We have to pay in our taxes for damages to that racist Rizzo. Pisses me off.

Ebadlun

(336 posts)
3. I say Huntsman
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 08:36 PM
Feb 2012

He'd be the GOP-e wet dream right now. At the time he quit, Romney looked inevitable, and Huntsman looked like a me-too. Now Romney looks well damaged, but there's not any sane alternative.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
6. Huntsman Had His Shot
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 09:33 PM
Feb 2012

and couldn't make gains outside of NH even after the field had been narrowed down. He also made the mistake of pretty much running against the Republican party, or at least many of its most outspoken advocates. He is the Joe Lieberman of the other side.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
7. The Repiglickins Don't Do Sane. They Don't Even Pretend to Anymore. They Don't Have To.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 09:35 PM
Feb 2012

They have "Citizens United" now.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
12. Huntsman was just Romney-lite
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:13 AM
Feb 2012

Why would anyone vote for him when they could have the real thing? But I agree with the OP, Paws quit long before he could see if his blob would get hot and rise to the top of the lava lamp.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
15. The Wizard!?
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:55 AM
Feb 2012


Huntsman's not nearly nuts enough. Or dumb enough. And he believes in evolution. No sale.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
8. Whatever Mitch Daniels's Chances Would Have Been
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 09:37 PM
Feb 2012

if he had organized a real candidacy, Pawlenty was there on the national stage. He was just crowded out. All he had to do was nothing. The most damaged and bizarre candidates have all had their moment in the sun and died of self-inflicted wounds. While Pawlenty might have gone that route too, there's nothing in his record to indicate that. He just didn't stick around long enough.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
10. He is Indeed an Empty Suit -- a Bland, Personable Representative of the Party's Mainstream
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:22 PM
Feb 2012

At this point in the primaries, however, that is very attractive.

It's like a woman who's dated a series of men including a control freak, a loser, an alcoholic, a cheapskate, a wierdo, and a bully. Along comes an inoffensive guy with very little personality but no particular neuroses or vices. And she goes "THANK YOU"!

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
11. I don't think Pawlenty really wanted to win this go around after seeing the field and
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:12 AM
Feb 2012

knowing how low he'd have to stoop to get conservative votes AND knowing that WHOEVER was nominated would ultimately lose to Obama.

I mean he got out after a silly non-binding straw poll thingy. No one would have done that if they didn't want an excuse to get out already.

I'm not stumping for Pawlenty. I wouldn't vote for him. But, I really think was smart enough to look around at all of the nuts surrounding him and say, "fuck this shit."

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
20. Pawlenty wouldn't have gone anywhere either. He isn't nutty enough.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:22 AM
Feb 2012

He certainly did no good for Romney in Minnesota.

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