2016 Postmortem
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Tim Pawlenty.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)You don't quit a race you really want to win after a bought straw poll. He's probably happy to be away from this craziness.
On the Road
(20,783 posts)At the point he dropped out, he looked like a lightweight who had his moment, had to climb over a number of more popular candidates, and was never going to get above single digits.
If he were still in the running, however, he would probably be something of a savior now. He might very well be in the lead in this strange race.
Pawlenty may have no outstanding qualifications, but he was a governor, is personable, seems relative normal, and unlike the other candidates seems to have no qualities that would cause him to self-destruct. He doesn't have Romney's flip-flops and relatively liberal record, Santorum's extreme positions on birth control and other social issues, the complete dickishness and serial marriages of Gingrich, or the isolationism and economic fantasies of Ron Paul.
At the beginning of the campaign, Pawlenty seemed to be an also-ran. At this point, he looks like a superior candiate to anyone in or out of the race. JMO.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,734 posts)He's Rick Santorum who's managed to suppress the crazy in public; he's Mitt Romney who'll do and say anything to pander to whomever needs to be pandered to. His dickishness doesn't come out on TV like Newt's, but it's there. In fact, he's as mean as a snake (no offense to snakes) - he cut funding for schools and a state medical insurance program for the poor to avoid raising taxes on the rich. And then there was that freeway bridge collapse - Timmy doesn't like spending money on infrastructure, either.
He might have had a chance if he hadn't dropped out because he doesn't seem as mean and crazy as the others. But he is.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Stupid is no longer enough to make it as a Republican. If you can't do batshit crazy, nobody's interested.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)That disqualifies him for any further government service in my book! It doesn't look too great on the old resume, right?
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Proves he's not wasting money on infrastructure when it could go to better purposes like tax cuts for the rich. When Walker was Milw County Exec, a big piece of concrete fell off some unmaintained public building & injured someone. It proved he had the right stuff to be Gubner.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)first hand. But my husband is from WI and has a friend who is a county exec. I can't believe that the exec. and his/her board wouldn't have some idea of infrastructure oversight, the same as a mayor would have. Lawsuits resulting in higher taxes for the county come to mind.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)If we arent going to talk about the dangerous consequences of deteriorating infrastructure when there is a fatal accident, when are we going to talk about it?
The least important fact about the tragic accident that killed a 15-year-old boy on his way to Summerfest is that it comes at a politically inconvenient time for County Executive Scott Walker, who is running for governor.
Young Jared Kellner was crushed when a 27,000-pound slab of concrete fell from the outside of a county parking garage built under ODonnell Park on Milwaukees lakefront.
The most important concern, of course, is why 13.5 tons of decorative concrete on the exterior of a county structure were so unstable as to fall into a crowd on the first day of Summerfest.
Questions immediately were raised -- as they should be -- about whether more than $200 million in deferred maintenance in Milwaukee County parks may have contributed to unsafe conditions. It is no secret that infrastructure all over America has been neglected for years as politicians everywhere in both major parties have put cutting taxes above most other public concerns. Walker simply represents a more extreme version of that philosophy. The enormous deferral in county park and building maintenance seemed to have no political consequences for him when all it meant was deterioration of one of the nations premier park systems and trashy public buildings.
Its difficult to rally the public against gradual decline in our quality of life. But a tragedy is a shock to the system. Nobody gets excited about our deteriorating roads and bridges, either, until a bridge collapses and people are killed.
Some reporters immediately focused on a consultants report completed late last year warning county officials the ODonnell parking garage needed nearly $600,000 in repairs for multiple problems including cracking walls.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)lawsuit Rizzo v. DeStefano which went to SCOTUS a couple of years ago. We have to pay in our taxes for damages to that racist Rizzo. Pisses me off.
Ebadlun
(336 posts)He'd be the GOP-e wet dream right now. At the time he quit, Romney looked inevitable, and Huntsman looked like a me-too. Now Romney looks well damaged, but there's not any sane alternative.
On the Road
(20,783 posts)and couldn't make gains outside of NH even after the field had been narrowed down. He also made the mistake of pretty much running against the Republican party, or at least many of its most outspoken advocates. He is the Joe Lieberman of the other side.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)They have "Citizens United" now.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Why would anyone vote for him when they could have the real thing? But I agree with the OP, Paws quit long before he could see if his blob would get hot and rise to the top of the lava lamp.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Huntsman's not nearly nuts enough. Or dumb enough. And he believes in evolution. No sale.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)instead of Pawlenty.
On the Road
(20,783 posts)if he had organized a real candidacy, Pawlenty was there on the national stage. He was just crowded out. All he had to do was nothing. The most damaged and bizarre candidates have all had their moment in the sun and died of self-inflicted wounds. While Pawlenty might have gone that route too, there's nothing in his record to indicate that. He just didn't stick around long enough.
Bosso 63
(992 posts)Nothing there, zip, nada,
and now he knows it too.
On the Road
(20,783 posts)At this point in the primaries, however, that is very attractive.
It's like a woman who's dated a series of men including a control freak, a loser, an alcoholic, a cheapskate, a wierdo, and a bully. Along comes an inoffensive guy with very little personality but no particular neuroses or vices. And she goes "THANK YOU"!
musicblind
(4,484 posts)knowing how low he'd have to stoop to get conservative votes AND knowing that WHOEVER was nominated would ultimately lose to Obama.
I mean he got out after a silly non-binding straw poll thingy. No one would have done that if they didn't want an excuse to get out already.
I'm not stumping for Pawlenty. I wouldn't vote for him. But, I really think was smart enough to look around at all of the nuts surrounding him and say, "fuck this shit."
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)He certainly did no good for Romney in Minnesota.