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No excuses... if you win..you win... if you lose .. you lose (Original Post) Peacetrain Mar 2016 OP
Uh... ok whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #1
I dislike excuses. bigwillq Mar 2016 #2
ROFL.. that was a good one! Peacetrain Mar 2016 #3
Ok? PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #4
I'm not sure who is going to win, but I have come to the conclusion that parties should not liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #5
The Secretaries of State of each state are in charge of primary voting frazzled Mar 2016 #9
So even before anyone vote in primary Gwhittey Mar 2016 #6
Not to mention she is withholding potentially damning information JudyM Mar 2016 #8
In my world, how you win matters. n/t cloudbase Mar 2016 #7
+1 Svafa Mar 2016 #14
Bush vs Gore. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #10
except with proportional delegate allocation... thesquanderer Mar 2016 #11
No changing or griping about the rules everyone agreed to. And always remember ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #12
The Democratic Party cheated. The media was biased. Hillary lied and fought dirty. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #13
Just win, baby! DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #15
Sending my own op back to the top.. Peacetrain Mar 2016 #16

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
5. I'm not sure who is going to win, but I have come to the conclusion that parties should not
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:52 PM
Mar 2016

be in charge of primaries or caucuses. WA has a mail in ballot primary. This is great for everybody including the disabled. My husband is legally blind and loves the mail in ballot system. Only this time WA Democrats have decided that they will be getting all of their delegates from the caucus. This is not the only problem with the parties running the primaries and caucuses. We have heard many stories about problems at polling stations. Just like with Bush there are two possible conclusions. Either the party is incompetent or they are corrupt and neither is acceptable.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
9. The Secretaries of State of each state are in charge of primary voting
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:04 PM
Mar 2016

Caucuses are a bit different by nature, but the tallies (where everyone is present to confirm) are again sent to the Secretary of State.

But really, what are primaries besides each party having a contest to decide which candidate should be that party's nominee for various offices? They ARE party affairs.

Otherwise, we'd just have a giant national "pre-election" and let everybody vote among all the parties' candidates. And then we'd end up with all the red states voting for Republicans and all the blue states .... And Democrats in red states or Republicans in blue states would have absolutely no say in their party's nominations. Primaries ARE party affairs.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
6. So even before anyone vote in primary
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:53 PM
Mar 2016

I have been bitching about the Debate Schedule and Get out the Vote not being done by DNC, and the M$M not being fair to Bernie.
So it is not win or lose. If Sanders was slightly ahead like Hillary is now, I would be saying that it is amazing he has done this even though those things happened. So not a Excuse it is reasons.

JudyM

(29,250 posts)
8. Not to mention she is withholding potentially damning information
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:02 PM
Mar 2016

that can be pulled out by rethugs in the GE. Until she releases those transcripts - and we know whether she is going to be indicted for her various other "shenanigans" - it is not an even playing field for Dems in determining how to vote.

The only reasonable inference about those transcripts is that they would hurt her chances in a big way. And *that matters a helluva lot*...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
10. Bush vs Gore.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:05 PM
Mar 2016

"For when the One Great Scorer comes
To mark against your name,
He writes - not that you won or lost -
But HOW you played the Game.

"Alumnus Football”
― Grantland Rice

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
11. except with proportional delegate allocation...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:15 PM
Mar 2016

...you can lose, and still end up about the same as if you had won!

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
16. Sending my own op back to the top..
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:22 PM
Mar 2016

But if you win..you win.. if you lose .. you lose.. look at the results and adjust the message if it is not getting through..

Congratulations to both our candidates!!!..

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