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nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:15 PM Mar 2016

Hillary has answered one important question today

With the Reagan/AIDS nonsense.

If she will pander like this when she's on the campaign trail, in full sight, and where every word is being recorded, just imagine how she pandered when giving secret speeches to banksters who were paying her hundreds of thousands of dollars specifically to pander to them.

Now we know why she won't release the transcripts. It would end her campaign in about five minutes.

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Hillary has answered one important question today (Original Post) nichomachus Mar 2016 OP
Exactly right. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #1
Bullshit! Little Star Mar 2016 #2
That's the speciality of Hillary and her hangers on nt nichomachus Mar 2016 #3
?? dana_b Mar 2016 #4
LOL cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #5
Yep! They paid her $250,000 to hear her... Jackilope Mar 2016 #6
I'm pretty sure... TeeYiYi Mar 2016 #15
Her apology, or correction, or whatever you want to call it, SheilaT Mar 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Mar 2016 #12
I remember this and I was 10 in 1980. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #18
But it's not just what she did/didn't know in the 80s. winter is coming Mar 2016 #28
What a thorough and convincing rebuttal. bigwillq Mar 2016 #11
A solid argument! Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #22
Well, gosh... Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #26
... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #29
Lol, another brilliant analysis! Logical Mar 2016 #30
She made $21 million dollars giving speeches behind closed doors. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #31
LOL! And no, I'm not laughing *with* you. (N/T) Old Crow Mar 2016 #33
If you're going to say that, you have to be willing to say why. n/t. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #34
That's her whole campaign in a nutshell MissDeeds Mar 2016 #35
Awesome refutation! Bride of Pander Bear thanks you. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #47
That's how little she thinks of the electorate -- we're too stupid or we don't matter. pacalo Mar 2016 #8
She could have just told the truth nichomachus Mar 2016 #9
+1,000! RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #13
Just know NJCher Mar 2016 #38
+3.14159 Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #48
It would put the 47% remark to shame. PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #10
This shit.... MellowDem Mar 2016 #14
But it won't be the same. They have designs on your Social Security. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #41
I think it's compulsive. I don't know if she has a core. jalan48 Mar 2016 #16
I just said this exact thing to my husband. Barack_America Mar 2016 #19
She's kind of like Woody Allen's "Zelig," but without the shapeshifting. nt Chef Eric Mar 2016 #21
a constellation of cliches arranged around an abyss that only power can fill MisterP Mar 2016 #25
Well said. It's about power. She tasted it when Bill was President and now she wants it. jalan48 Mar 2016 #27
Wow man Z_California Mar 2016 #36
I don't think it was pander, it's what she believes. morningfog Mar 2016 #17
But, but... SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #20
She knows NJCher Mar 2016 #39
But, but... SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #44
well, the fact that as a party, they are in meltdown NJCher Mar 2016 #45
Heh. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #46
Gay or straight we all knew someone embroidered into the quilt. It was like the Vietnam War Memorial Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #23
^this^ and +1000 Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #43
Memory problems? Time for the 3-yr checkup on the concussion injury. /nt NCjack Mar 2016 #24
Exactly. But her exploit today was probably just as damaging Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #32
Offer $50,000 To Leak Transcripts billhicks76 Mar 2016 #37
Kicked and recommended! eom Enthusiast Mar 2016 #40
Proud to kick and recommend this observation. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #42

Jackilope

(819 posts)
6. Yep! They paid her $250,000 to hear her...
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:28 PM
Mar 2016

... telling them to "cut that out!"

"911!"

"Squirrel! "

You know damn well she told them what they wanted to hear. Assurances that they shouled and can sleep with a clear conscience and inspiration to carry on and that she will be no threat.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
7. Her apology, or correction, or whatever you want to call it,
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:29 PM
Mar 2016

is Bullshit!

Anyone who was not comatose in the '80s was VERY aware that the Reagans said NOTHING, did NOTHING, even when their friend Rock Hudson was dying of AIDS and asked them to do something. It is NOT a simple error that she said what she said. It was calculated. She still lives in the old world where no one really fact-checks anything, where what you say is preserved forever on the internet.

Response to SheilaT (Reply #7)

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
18. I remember this and I was 10 in 1980.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 12:17 AM
Mar 2016

It's not something I had to look up.

Then again, my mother and grandmother were nurses. The AIDS epidemic was something my family was intimately aware of.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
28. But it's not just what she did/didn't know in the 80s.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:10 AM
Mar 2016

Even if she'd spent the entire decade in a convent, she's had plenty of time since then to learn what a shitty job the Reagan Administration did of responding to the AIDS crisis. There have been books and movies and she's supposedly a policy wonk. The idea that she somehow got this false impression (where?) that the Reagans should be praised in any way for anything to do with AIDS strains credulity.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
31. She made $21 million dollars giving speeches behind closed doors.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:22 AM
Mar 2016

That's pretty expensive bullshit, if you ask me.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
9. She could have just told the truth
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:41 PM
Mar 2016

"I'm not sure what Nancy Reagan did. I was too busy busting unions for Walmart."

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
13. +1,000!
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 12:02 AM
Mar 2016

In a sense, Hillary has done for Wall Street what "Mommy" did for Hollywood. She could've been better than Nancy, but unfortunately, she set her sights too high.

NJCher

(35,732 posts)
38. Just know
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 03:46 AM
Mar 2016

That somewhere in NJ in the middle of the night, an insomniac, reading on an iPad, burst out laughing, earning a round of yawns from the cats on the bed.

Cher



 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
10. It would put the 47% remark to shame.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:44 PM
Mar 2016
Now we know why she won't release the transcripts. It would end her campaign in about five minutes.

MellowDem

(5,018 posts)
14. This shit....
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 12:10 AM
Mar 2016

makes me so angry. It's not that she is straight up ignorant, she intentionally lies about this shit to pander to whatever audience she has. I don't trust her at all.

And this is who the Democraric Party is championing, I can't respect her, I don't respect the party, I have no enthusiasm at all for someone like this, just a fear of the right.

I fucking hate that I will have to vote for her, because I get no other choice in the general election.

All of mainstream media and all of the establishment and elites will coo over this, they love rewriting history to make our past leaders look more palatable. And with the cancellation of Trump's rally, Clinton will no doubt take on the voice of "moderation", the grown up in the room willing to fuck over the powerless for political expediency. And her apologists make me even angrier, trying to make excuses for this awful, disgusting display.

Expect another 8 years of the same, getting fucked by corporate America, because we're going to get some brand of conservative no matter what.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
41. But it won't be the same. They have designs on your Social Security.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:17 AM
Mar 2016

They have big plans to privatize the commons. They also have new bigger (more profitable) wars planned.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
19. I just said this exact thing to my husband.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 12:21 AM
Mar 2016

She no longer has core beliefs, or if she does, she has completely suppressed them. All she knows now is how to assess the prevailing political winds and align herself accordingly.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
17. I don't think it was pander, it's what she believes.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 12:15 AM
Mar 2016

She probably sings Reagans praises to Goldman Sachs.

NJCher

(35,732 posts)
39. She knows
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 04:00 AM
Mar 2016

She's not getting the independents, so she's pandering to the republicans who can't stomach Trump. There are a lot of them. There was even a story on the news about that segment of the electorate today.

If the so-called news has recognized that segment, you can be sure that she, with her millions from her Super-Pac, had market researchers working on what segments of the vote she might be able to gain. Now that it is a recognized number, it's pandering time.

She is shameless to the point that I am thinking she is mentally ill, and I am not the only one.

Cher

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
44. But, but...
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:56 AM
Mar 2016

She thinks praising Nancy Reagan *specifically* with regard to AIDS will accomplish that? Really? Maybe there's something about Republicans I don't understand...

NJCher

(35,732 posts)
45. well, the fact that as a party, they are in meltdown
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:44 AM
Mar 2016

should tell you something's not right about their thinking process.



Cher

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
23. Gay or straight we all knew someone embroidered into the quilt. It was like the Vietnam War Memorial
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 12:55 AM
Mar 2016

in that respect, only many more were lost to Aids/HIV. Nancy Reagan and Ronald Reagan were and remain hated for that attempted genocide. That Hilary spoke this should inform every thinking person just as it diminishes every person remembered in that quilt.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
32. Exactly. But her exploit today was probably just as damaging
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:22 AM
Mar 2016

as the transcripts would be. Maybe not in numbers of people yet, jumping off her bandwagon, but I have a feeling that number will multiply as more people hear about it.

I do think the transcripts will surface eventually. Probably the same way Mittens' 47%er audio was disclosed... via a caterer or wait-staff person of some kind.

And then there are those emails.

But yes, I completely agree with your logic. That's exactly how I see it too. I wouldn't trust her as far as I can throw her.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
42. Proud to kick and recommend this observation.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:50 AM
Mar 2016

Also: F*ck homophobia, in all its ugly manifestations, and F*ck indifference, whichever party affiliation it has.

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