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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 12:54 PM Mar 2016

The shameful Bernie race smear: Hillary supporters have played a dirty, dangerous game

"One key aspect that has been bubbling for a while now, spun off from the BernieBro label and not discussed like it needs to be, is the opponents or most acerbic critics of Sanders, intentionally or unintentionally, implying that his supporters have no noticeable racial diversity or that his campaign doesn’t appeal to minority voters.

What’s so troubling about this enduring narrative is the disturbing insistence on completely ignoring or aggressively dismissing any of Bernie’s minority supporters who aren’t famous. It’s a focused and determined echo on painting Sanders as truly representing only young or old white liberals, and that Sanders and his backers are unable to acknowledge or express white systemic privilege. And in either their strong support for Clinton or their unwillingness to fully analyze Sanders fairly or comprehensively on race, one of this election’s deleterious aspects on the left can no longer be dismissed.

The toxicity of the “Bernie is white and for whites only” drive has become even more glaring over the last month, with cleverly crafted smears at Sanders hitting exactly the sustained narrative they wanted to hit and fueled by Clinton’s legacy domination of the black vote."

Hillary and her surrogates sure know how to divide people.

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/12/the_shameful_bernie_race_smear_hillary_supporters_have_played_a_dirty_dangerous_game/

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The shameful Bernie race smear: Hillary supporters have played a dirty, dangerous game (Original Post) NWCorona Mar 2016 OP
That's the opinion of a Sanders supporter on a pro Sanders website. Metric System Mar 2016 #1
And? NWCorona Mar 2016 #2
He's entitled to his opinion. Metric System Mar 2016 #5
Once he's been properly belittled of course.... daleanime Mar 2016 #28
Perfect response. Every OP that criticizes Hillary is dismissed for one reason or another, often merrily Mar 2016 #10
Agreed! NWCorona Mar 2016 #13
Exactly!!! n/t marew Mar 2016 #54
Agree! n/t Paper Roses Mar 2016 #70
"poisoning the well" Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #15
Not only Salon magazine noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #48
And that's a typical Hillary and GOP tactic == attack the messenger, don't address the issue pdsimdars Mar 2016 #58
Independent left leaning website= "pro Sanders Website" Lorien Mar 2016 #112
As opposed to objective sources like "dailynewsbin", amirite? Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #115
More phony shock and outrage. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #3
Phony from who? NWCorona Mar 2016 #6
I read what you posted. I didn't click the link. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #7
A fiber of truth? NWCorona Mar 2016 #8
Nope. Only a small minority of HRC voters fit the type the OP cast. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #9
We will have to disagree on that NWCorona Mar 2016 #11
And Bernie's supporters fit the type the Clintons and their media shills have been fabricating? merrily Mar 2016 #19
That needs a bit of editing to be readable. But about Bernie's "supporter fit".... Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #39
You really couldn't read my post because of an "s" missing from the end of supporter?" Says a lot. merrily Mar 2016 #40
How are things in junior high? mac56 Mar 2016 #51
You tell me. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #57
Thanks for proving my point for me. mac56 Mar 2016 #74
Not one to key in on irony, are you? Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #76
If I'd seen any irony, I would have. mac56 Mar 2016 #78
As I was saying... Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #80
... mac56 Mar 2016 #83
Well said and an appropriate analogy. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #20
For a certain puerile elementary school grade level, it's downright stunning! merrily Mar 2016 #47
But it's not Hillary's voters that we're worried about.... daleanime Mar 2016 #29
Oh, then please carry on calling her a liar, rape enabler, comparing her to Nixon and Kissinger... Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #37
I'm so tired of asking questions that never get answered.... daleanime Mar 2016 #65
That's your question? Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #72
And then, they play those sea lion games! MADem Mar 2016 #85
^Amen^ Loki Mar 2016 #87
NOT GOOD ENOUGH, BERNIE Kalidurga Mar 2016 #45
Hells bells! Look at the demographics of Bernie's support! Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #56
You surely think you have made a point. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #59
Of course I was proving your point because I was agreeing with most of it: Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #63
Sanders does fine not great but fine with POC in Northern States. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #66
And he might do even better noiretextatique Mar 2016 #101
I know Kalidurga Mar 2016 #106
It may come as a shock to you, but most of this country doesnt live in the south. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #117
I guess if legal weed is the #1 issue for the entire West Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #120
har har har har har laff it up Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #121
As I said from the beginning: it orginated there noiretextatique Mar 2016 #98
Yes it did Kalidurga Mar 2016 #99
They also claim they are not noiretextatique Mar 2016 #100
LOL yeah tone deaf like when Bernie said he was only going to talk to white people.... Kalidurga Mar 2016 #102
Lol...just like that eom noiretextatique Mar 2016 #105
You have no credibility if you don't bother to read Armstead Mar 2016 #16
You're obviously describing all of the Clinton smears on Bernie pdsimdars Mar 2016 #61
Results of Jury grossproffit Mar 2016 #110
Like your Post 3? merrily Mar 2016 #12
No. I see no parallel at all. Please explain, and try to keep it civil. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #14
Poster, please. My post contained nothing uncivil. merrily Mar 2016 #17
Ok. No explanation, no surprise. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #18
What was I supposed to explain again? BTW, what do your posts explain? merrily Mar 2016 #21
Just keep doing what you do best. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #35
Back at you. I find posting about who is on one's (gasp!) ignore list amusing. merrily Mar 2016 #46
Big threat OOOOOooooooooooo pdsimdars Mar 2016 #62
It wasn't a threat. She's already back on my ignore list. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #64
Taking all of this mess out of it NWCorona Mar 2016 #68
Very clever. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #73
Then I can understand that NWCorona Mar 2016 #82
My ignore list has two members, as of ten minutes ago. It's an elite list. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #84
Fair enough NWCorona Mar 2016 #86
Bye now. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #94
I see you never replied to me in the faux ghettogate post noiretextatique Mar 2016 #97
Yes, heaven forfend anyone respond to 8 months of phony shock and ourtage with more of the same. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #116
All one needs to do is go to C-SPAN online or cable network to see Sander's followers... MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #4
. merrily Mar 2016 #31
Ah Hah!! Yes, yes, yes, yes... MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #38
+1 daleanime Mar 2016 #33
it was deliberate ibegurpard Mar 2016 #22
Yes, and posts made by Bernie supporters citing facts that Zorra Mar 2016 #113
His message is getting out despite the 'artful smears' vintx Mar 2016 #23
Beautiful and Touching Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #27
Isn't it? vintx Mar 2016 #69
Good article, but Jones gets a key fact wrong RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #24
Yeah, when this first came up NWCorona Mar 2016 #26
I don't think many people understood the distinction RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #32
I am very disappointed in Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #25
Me too! NWCorona Mar 2016 #30
Same tactics seemingly down to the order of events and their timetable. Do you think Hilary Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #36
disappointed but in no way surprised. At 70 not a lot surprises me. n/t mikehiggins Mar 2016 #103
The irony of this in light of her 2008 primary campaign against Obama just screams merrily Mar 2016 #34
I have no credibility because I won't click on an opinion piece from Salon? Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #41
I never said that but I do think you should read it NWCorona Mar 2016 #44
I think the credibility suffers not from refusing to read it but from then insisting to be an Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #49
Ya, but, it WORKED. Ergo, it was pragmatic. HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #42
Bernie is a racist like Hillary is a fountain of truth stupidicus Mar 2016 #43
with the insistence heaven05 Mar 2016 #50
It's not working. Time's running out. Tick-tock! NurseJackie Mar 2016 #52
Come on now NJ NWCorona Mar 2016 #60
dismissive and smug is all there ever seems to be pdsimdars Mar 2016 #67
I've seen her rise above the fray before. NWCorona Mar 2016 #71
Dismissive and smug, but with lots of emoticons..... Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #96
No...it doesn't play as well noiretextatique Mar 2016 #107
It's no different than her overtly racist campaign in 2008 Scootaloo Mar 2016 #53
She's just like Trump - smears, lies, divisiveness and a war monger pdsimdars Mar 2016 #55
jury results noamnety Mar 2016 #75
To be entirely fair, Trump has never voted for a war Fumesucker Mar 2016 #104
Only way she can win is to divide, which is a trait ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #77
Probably tricks she learned by joining the Bush family dynasty when Bill did. cyberpj Mar 2016 #122
And such a smear is especially liberalhistorian Mar 2016 #79
I scream this from the rafters noiretextatique Mar 2016 #108
Remember the law of unintended consequences. And it's not only Bernie they have tried to smear. Skwmom Mar 2016 #81
When I become angry reading about this horrid woman and her ambition FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #88
"white systematic priveledge" SoapBox Mar 2016 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author fun n serious Mar 2016 #90
And Donald Trump is a victim liberal N proud Mar 2016 #91
"Some" Hillary supporters? Nitram Mar 2016 #92
The way that the Clinton campaign has purposely driven a racial wedge between Democrats, Maedhros Mar 2016 #93
You are not...it is infuriating noiretextatique Mar 2016 #109
But is it Hillary supporters who are doing this? kcr Mar 2016 #95
Yeah, for the past 8 months here? Absolutely. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #118
Yes. "Useless white supremacist liberals" from DU's resident loudmouth... SMC22307 Mar 2016 #123
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #111
But Bernie isn't doing that snowy owl Mar 2016 #114
It's an election, a tough fight Onlooker Mar 2016 #119
I notice the writer of this just tweeted out that #BernieMadeMeWhite Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #124

merrily

(45,251 posts)
10. Perfect response. Every OP that criticizes Hillary is dismissed for one reason or another, often
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:09 PM
Mar 2016

via pointless source shaming.

Opinion pieces that praise her are great; opinion pieces that don't praise her are dismissed. Typical double standards and deflection. Avoids the need to discuss substance.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
48. Not only Salon magazine
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:59 PM
Mar 2016

Andrew Jones's work has been published by Talking Points Memo, The Guardian, The Intercept, The Raw Story, Ebony Magazine and The Grio, among other publications

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
58. And that's a typical Hillary and GOP tactic == attack the messenger, don't address the issue
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:21 PM
Mar 2016

They have NO answers, only attacking messengers.
EMPTY.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
112. Independent left leaning website= "pro Sanders Website"
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 10:53 AM
Mar 2016

OK, and maybe you'll acknowledge that the corporate media is entirely "Pro-Clinton"?

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
7. I read what you posted. I didn't click the link.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:02 PM
Mar 2016

What you posted in the OP had a fiber of truth and a lot of extrapolation, hyperbole, and conjured outrage.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
9. Nope. Only a small minority of HRC voters fit the type the OP cast.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:05 PM
Mar 2016

This is what Limbaugh does. He finds some oddity, pretends it's a universal truth, and spends three hours going on and on.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
39. That needs a bit of editing to be readable. But about Bernie's "supporter fit"....
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:45 PM
Mar 2016

... is he now endorsing athletic underwear?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
40. You really couldn't read my post because of an "s" missing from the end of supporter?" Says a lot.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:48 PM
Mar 2016

Your post however lacks a lot more than one letter.

mac56

(17,574 posts)
78. If I'd seen any irony, I would have.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:40 PM
Mar 2016

Jockstrap jokes are straight out of the seventh grade schoolyard.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
37. Oh, then please carry on calling her a liar, rape enabler, comparing her to Nixon and Kissinger...
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:41 PM
Mar 2016

... and then read the OP again.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
65. I'm so tired of asking questions that never get answered....
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:27 PM
Mar 2016

1-If you don't want her to be called a liar, give me a better word for describing some one who dances around the truth rather then acknowledging it.

2-Rape enabler? Where the hell did that come from?

3-Same for Nixon...

4-She's the one who talks about her respect for Dr. Killing....I mean Dr. Kissinger. I thought that you wanted us to accept her words, how confusing.



So like I've had to ask repeatedly since the primary began, you honestly can't image a single reason a democratic voter might not want to vote for Hillary?

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
72. That's your question?
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:36 PM
Mar 2016

"you honestly can't image a single reason a democratic voter might not want to vote for Hillary?"

You're kidding.

The Sander's crowd tosses up threads several times a day: "Reasons why I would never vote for Hillary Clinton." It's always the same stuff, so, yeah -- I recognize that HRC is not the choice of every DUer.

As for comments 2 and 3:

Rape enabler:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025126067
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017331306
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251871297

Comparison to Nixon:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280111976#post7
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511207084#post19

That was without even trying.

Okay. I answered your questions. Have the last word.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
85. And then, they play those sea lion games!
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:48 PM
Mar 2016

It's just a huge stew of hate up in here.

Poor admins. Their site is burning to the ground before their eyes....

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
45. NOT GOOD ENOUGH, BERNIE
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:53 PM
Mar 2016

That theme has been going on here since day one. Please keep pretending it isn't the constant drum beat at Camp Weather-vane.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
56. Hells bells! Look at the demographics of Bernie's support!
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:20 PM
Mar 2016

The Sanders crowd at DU cheers every time the primaries move out of the South because he might not get anihilated and might actually pull off a tie.

Not good enough? Damned straight not good enough!

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
63. Of course I was proving your point because I was agreeing with most of it:
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:25 PM
Mar 2016

In the context of the OP (at least a tiny part of the opening premise), Sanders's ability to resonate with Black and other minority voters is close to zero. If you think that's a good thing, then Holy Crap!

If you disagree, then you're sleeping through this primary season.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
66. Sanders does fine not great but fine with POC in Northern States.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:28 PM
Mar 2016

He wasn't too far off in a lot of areas in Michigan that are predominately POC areas, like Wayne and Geneosee counties. In Minnesota there was no difference at all between the Twin Cities area and the out state areas in how people voted. This gap will be non existent when California comes along.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
101. And he might do even better
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:25 PM
Mar 2016

In areas where people remember the Black Panthers served breakfast, and where Clinton's superpredator advocacy did a lot of damage. Chicago, Oakland, Seattle, New York, like Detriot are nothing like the South.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
106. I know
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:32 PM
Mar 2016

I have met a lot of people in my urban area. Some from the South and I have noticed a different kind of attitude. That being said after I was explained the differences I don't blame em for wanting to go back home even though the South is very hard on people all people, but especially POC. They say people in general are better mannered (it is true in Tennessee anyways, I know first hand), the weather is a lot better (true as well) the food is better (yep). But, the trade off is to me anyway that it's a lot harder to fight the system. It's harder to organize. It's harder to be an activist. I have no idea why that is really, I just know where I was there wasn't a whole lot of activism that I could see. But, in Minneapolis it would be harder to not run into activists.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
117. It may come as a shock to you, but most of this country doesnt live in the south.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:04 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary's beltway hobnobs have no clue how to compete in the west, for instance.

50 million people live on the west coast and most of them support legal, regulated and taxed cannabis, and Hillary's answer to that has been "New Hampshire has a terrible heroin problem, I know"

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
121. har har har har har laff it up
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:22 PM
Mar 2016

this condescension bullshit has been working so well so far, like with Millennials.

There are 34 Million people in California, FYI, in case you've never made it across this great land any further west than New Jersey.

Legalization is strongly supported by craaaaazy hippies like Lt. Governor Newsom. Senators like Oregon's Jeff Merkeley. A majority of Americans.

They all must be high, derp.

Also, Colorado is a crucial electoral college swing state. Perhaps you've heard of those?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
99. Yes it did
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:17 PM
Mar 2016

and Hill supporters still keep saying "We aren't accusing Bernie of being racist, he just doesn't get race issues like Hillary does."

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
100. They also claim they are not
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:19 PM
Mar 2016

Clinton supporters, but you find them in every "Bernie is tonedeaf" thread. Another stupid trick we are not supposed to notice.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
102. LOL yeah tone deaf like when Bernie said he was only going to talk to white people....
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:25 PM
Mar 2016

Oh wait sorry my bad, that was Hillary.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
16. You have no credibility if you don't bother to read
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

I know you love hit and run posts, but the writer provided several examples to explain what they were referring to.

Disagreement is one thing but mindless sniping....not so much.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
110. Results of Jury
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:01 PM
Mar 2016

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Personal insults, continues on for many posts, a pure troll who's only motive is to disrupt DU.

The review was completed at Sat Mar 12, 2016, 05:58 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Ridiculous alert. Some can dish it out, but then cry foul when another dares to disagree with them.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The post is rude, but not worthy of a hide.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's a personal insult to not read a link? Or agree with a post?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: There are no personal insults here. There are comments about the post, but no insults about any person.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I might as well change my sig line to "Ugly, but not hideable."
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

merrily

(45,251 posts)
12. Like your Post 3?
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:10 PM
Mar 2016


Are you still claiming to be undecided or neutral or whatever it was that you claimed?
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
35. Just keep doing what you do best.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:38 PM
Mar 2016

I removed you, begrudgingly, from my ignore list.

You'll be back on soon.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
46. Back at you. I find posting about who is on one's (gasp!) ignore list amusing.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:53 PM
Mar 2016

It's almost as though people don't realize they can put people on ignore without some childish announcement.

Especially when being on the ignore list of certain posters is a badge of honor.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
64. It wasn't a threat. She's already back on my ignore list.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:26 PM
Mar 2016

I see you're shadowing me again today.

How are you? Having a good weekend so far? Enjoying my posts?

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
68. Taking all of this mess out of it
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:31 PM
Mar 2016

I can't understand the knee-jerk reaction of blocking people. It's not that serious... Unless someone calls you out of your name or something.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
73. Very clever.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:38 PM
Mar 2016

No, she follows me around throwing out insults and nothing more. I don't need the annoyance, so I block her.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
82. Then I can understand that
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:43 PM
Mar 2016

I didn't say under no circumstances. Just that people here do it for very little reason. I had someone say they are blocking me because she thinks I don't take constructive criticism well and she wasn't even in the convo. Just said that out of the blue.


So what was clever?

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
86. Fair enough
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:52 PM
Mar 2016

Also please remember that I wasn't calling you out particularly. Your post was just a catalyst for the point I was making.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
97. I see you never replied to me in the faux ghettogate post
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:13 PM
Mar 2016

Which was nothing but faux outrage over a non-issue.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
116. Yes, heaven forfend anyone respond to 8 months of phony shock and ourtage with more of the same.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:01 PM
Mar 2016

Camp Weathervane seems to think they have a patent on the stuff.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
4. All one needs to do is go to C-SPAN online or cable network to see Sander's followers...
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

They are excited, engaged, very loud after Bernie's applause lines, and more diverse in the range of ages (9 to 90, as I've seen)... And, every day as momentum grows, mostly among the young, they remind each other that love trumps hate.

To smear Bernie supporters is a bit of a joke. I have it from the best Hillary supporters that they are also the hardest working volunteers you will find in the Democratic party. There is room for everyone, and smears make us take heart as to WHY there are smears.

Where are these minority supporters the media mentions?

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
38. Ah Hah!! Yes, yes, yes, yes...
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:44 PM
Mar 2016

Haven't we been described nicely by the little round, brown dookies in the astroturf?

Merrily, I don't know what other tricks these phantom people have up their sleeves to shape what a vast number of Americans look like who want a future we can believe in... but, it will not stop the real political revolution that is growing.

Love Trumps Hate!

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
22. it was deliberate
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:24 PM
Mar 2016

And they started pushing it almost immediately after Sanders announced to poison the well.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
113. Yes, and posts made by Bernie supporters citing facts that
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 11:13 AM
Mar 2016

exposed the deliberate smearing got their posts hidden for citing those facts.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
69. Isn't it?
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:31 PM
Mar 2016

And it's true. We need to unite against those at the top who are exploiting all our differences to keep us from uniting against them.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
24. Good article, but Jones gets a key fact wrong
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:25 PM
Mar 2016

Not only has the Congressional Black Caucus NOT endorsed Hillary Clinton, it WON'T endorse her. It won't endorse ANY candidate. Here's CBC PAC chair Rep. Gregory Meeks' explanation.

Yes, the Congressional Black Caucus does not ever endorse in any race at any time, because it is a composite group that can include and does include Republicans as well as Democrats. And it is a nonpolitical entity that just focuses on legislation. The political wing of the Congressional Black Caucus is a—is the Congressional Black Caucus political action committee.


Moreover, I'm not even sure that Bernie would WANT an endorsement from the CBC's PAC, which comprises not only members of Congress, but also some lobbyists for some infamous businesses. Here's journalist Lee Fang's explanation:

Members of the CBC PAC board include Daron Watts, a lobbyist for Purdue Pharma, the maker of the highly addictive opioid OxyContin; Mike Mckay and Chaka Burgess, both lobbyists for Navient, the student loan giant that was spun off of Sallie Mae; former [Rep. Albert] Wynn, D-Md., a lobbyist who represents a range of clients, including work last year on behalf of Lorillard Tobacco, the maker of Newport cigarettes; and William A. Kirk, who lobbies for a cigar industry trade group on a range of tobacco regulations.

And a significant percentage of the $7,000 raised this cycle by the CBC PAC [...] was donated by white lobbyists, including Vic Fazio, who represents Philip Morris and served for years as a lobbyist to Corrections Corporation of America, and David Adams, a former Clinton aide who now lobbies for Wal-Mart, the largest gun distributor in America.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
32. I don't think many people understood the distinction
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:32 PM
Mar 2016

And you can be sure that the Clinton campaign had no incentive to clarify.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
30. Me too!
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:31 PM
Mar 2016

She's using the same tactics that she used against Obama. It's just that Bernie is white this time.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
36. Same tactics seemingly down to the order of events and their timetable. Do you think Hilary
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:41 PM
Mar 2016

realizes that she lost using these tactics last time? Reminds me of non-native language users speaking in their own tongue SLOWLY and LOUDLY to communicate.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
34. The irony of this in light of her 2008 primary campaign against Obama just screams
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:35 PM
Mar 2016

Ditto the difference, in the 2016 primary, between Bernie and BLM and Hillary and BLM.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
41. I have no credibility because I won't click on an opinion piece from Salon?
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:48 PM
Mar 2016

Sure.

I stand by my words. If you disagree, fine. Perhaps it's because you have no credibility.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
49. I think the credibility suffers not from refusing to read it but from then insisting to be an
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:03 PM
Mar 2016

authoritative voice on the very thing you can't know anything about because you refused to read it. You wish to both announce you have not read it and present yourself as the voice of reason about it. And that is simply not credible.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
42. Ya, but, it WORKED. Ergo, it was pragmatic.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:50 PM
Mar 2016

To say it is unethical, is to judge it from outside of the culture that produced it.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
50. with the insistence
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:08 PM
Mar 2016

by a certain campaign that economics is at the bottom of the racial animus in america, it seems like the same old "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" meme and forgetting about not being hired precisely because of the color of ones skin. Hillary and her connection to the mass incarceration/free labor pool doesn't make her a 'gem' either. It's coming down to the lesser of two evils vote again, for me

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
60. Come on now NJ
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:21 PM
Mar 2016

I've been very respectful to you. There's no need to be dismissive.

That said. Even though I would like Bernie to have a higher delegate count. I'm very confident that Bernie will win.

Good luck!

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
53. It's no different than her overtly racist campaign in 2008
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:11 PM
Mar 2016

Only this time instead of a white lady launching negrophobia and islamophobia at a black man, it's a WASP calling a Jew a racist who only cares about money. Apparently the latter "catches" better among some democrats.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
75. jury results
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:38 PM
Mar 2016

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

It is disruptive and over-the-top to say that either of our candidates is 'just like Trump." Posts like this do not belong on DU.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:35 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Just blatant nonsense that adds nothing to any cause besides ignorance
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Trump is an asshole. But he never voted for the Iraq war. Hillary did. Truth hurts.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Wow and that post sounds just like something Hannity would say. I quess if this stands Bernie is just like Fidel would be OK too.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No she isn´t like Trump. But politics is a contact sport. This isn't Aunt Mary´s tea party.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't agree with the wording - neither of our candidates is "just like trump." I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they meant to phrase it like this: "She's similar to Trump in that she uses smears, lies, divisiveness and is a war monger." I don't want to hide it because of imprecise language, though - I'm going to assume they misspoke.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's not disruptive or over the top if it's true.

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
77. Only way she can win is to divide, which is a trait
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:40 PM
Mar 2016

Of right wingers. She is a right winger. It's also why she's not very popular. Only way she can win is to muddy the water. That's a major reason why I will not vote for her under any circumstances. Zero chance.

 

cyberpj

(10,794 posts)
122. Probably tricks she learned by joining the Bush family dynasty when Bill did.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:41 PM
Mar 2016

Doesn't anyone remember Bill and Hillary being taken under the wing of The Bush Family under the guise of bi-partisanship?

Wake up. The Clintons have become the new Bushes.

In fact, "W" calls Hillary his sister-in-law and he has called Bill his "brother from another mother" several times.

I'm sure plenty of good stuff has been passed on through THAT connection.


liberalhistorian

(20,819 posts)
79. And such a smear is especially
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:40 PM
Mar 2016

rich coming from a former first lady who touted the 1994 crime bill that has destroyed a generation of young black men by calling young blacks "super predators" that we "need to bring to heel." The younger generation is very much aware of that whether she wants to even acknowledge that or not.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
108. I scream this from the rafters
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:30 PM
Mar 2016

To my friends and family on Facebook. The Clintons cynically manipulate race as it suits their purposes.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
88. When I become angry reading about this horrid woman and her ambition
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 03:08 PM
Mar 2016

I can only take comfort in the fact that she will never, ever come close to being the President of this country.

Response to NWCorona (Original post)

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
93. The way that the Clinton campaign has purposely driven a racial wedge between Democrats,
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 03:52 PM
Mar 2016

and the large numbers of Democrats who are OK with that, simply validates my decision to sever ties with the Party.

I'm sure I'm not alone in this regard.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
109. You are not...it is infuriating
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:35 PM
Mar 2016

But I am happy to see more and more black people posting support for Bernie on Facebook. African Americans for Bernie is quite active there. I am having some success with my family and friends too. Her comments about Reagan, her condescension towards black activists, and now exposing her cynical race-baiting...it is all having an effect.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
95. But is it Hillary supporters who are doing this?
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 04:22 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511476906

And if you don't see what's wrong with the picture there, you might be part of the problem.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
123. Yes. "Useless white supremacist liberals" from DU's resident loudmouth...
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:52 PM
Mar 2016

who is, yet again, on timeout. Fun was had about lily-white Vermont, but there aren't any optics problems in Michigan. Or Chicago. And that heinous "Not good enough, Bernie" OP is coming back to bite all of them in the ass.

I am LOVING this race.

Response to NWCorona (Original post)

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
114. But Bernie isn't doing that
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 05:47 PM
Mar 2016

He needs to intentionally articulate that his vision of America is a united people representing all races and genders. He doesn't get that himself. When Latinos and others see hiim, what they see is a white Jew from Vermont. I've been talking about that for several weeks and even sent a letter to Devine. It isn't pandering but saying it straight and inviting all people to join the revolution which will benefit all people. He has to actually say it. Make it visible. Every time he's asked what he will do for black Americans, he should respond we are all Americans and I'm going to create an economy that will create jobs for everyone. Blacks, whites, Latinos, Asians, young people old people. People need to hear him say it. Latinos and blacks often feel left out of "America" and during his Florida debate I could feel the lack of engagement because they didn't think he was talking to them.

He's not artificial. But right now he's a little naive and too intellectual. Someone in his campaign needs to increase his understanding of inclusiveness.

Hillary is rehearsed from yin to yang. He needs to up his level of connection to people. Too many respond emotionally. Hillary gets that group phony as her emotional rhetoric is. And she gets all the media with her phony words.

 

Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
119. It's an election, a tough fight
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:10 PM
Mar 2016

The Bernie people try to make Hillary out to be a warmonger, a corporate shill, a homophobe, etc., and the Hillary people try to make Sanders campaign out to be a white youth campaign. It's all part of the game. The same thing is going on with the Republicans. The real question is the degree to which the loser will work to unite the Party. Hillary set a great example in 2008, and we can expect the same from her or Bernie when the time comes.

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