Bernie supporters: Clinton's White House stay may be unpleasant for her

[DerekG]

If left to her own devices, a President Hillary Clinton would sell us out faster than you can say "triangulation." Deregulationist advisors and regional wars galore.

But she and her administration hacks will only get away with it if we let them. Imagine a presidency that's besieged not just by the Right, but by generations of folks who now recognize a progressive when they see one. Who refuse to give her the free ride afforded Obama and her husband.

Just imagine if, the day after the election, we told the donkey corporatists to stick their 3-dimensional chess pieces up their posteriors, and laid out a board of our own. Imagine if they came to hate and fear us...

It can happen.

[peacebird]

1. I hope so, but I believe her constituency has already paid for her concern, & we are not it

[orpupilofnature57]

2. Look at every decision she's made, Fear & Greed dictate what she has done, Platitudes express what

She'll do .

[jfern]

3. I suspect we'll have to wait until 2020 or 2024 to have a small chance at

getting someone who won't completely sell out all out.

[PatrickforO]

4. A friend and I were talking about this just this afternoon.

Now that Bernie has been talking about issues most of us have wanted to talk about for decades, I'm feeling pretty good that our group of progressives can help to keep any Democrat as honest as our still profoundly corrupt system will allow them to be. If we can just get some reforms through, like ending the right of parties in power to 'gerrymander' districts, and overturning Citizens United, we'd be a LOT better off because it is, I believe, inexorable that we'll travel in the right direction.

We need to reorganize our system around human need rather than human greed.

[DerekG]

5. We can't keep Clinton honest, but we can badger the hell out of her

Railroad her more blatant right-wing measures, weaken her presidency, and then primary a decent candidate in 2020.

[marions ghost]

21. "we can badger Clinton..."

sort of like beating your head against a wall?

[artislife]

49. We can't keep her honest. Full stop. nt

[MineralMan]

6. Shaking in their boots now they are.

Fearful will they be of this empty threat.

[DerekG]

10. Lyndon Johnson wasn't afraid of the doves at first, either

But they ended up sending him back to the ranch anyway.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

26. I am sure that Nixon had some sleepless nights

...

[aidbo]

32. Talk like Yoda, I too like to. :D

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. What!! You think public servants should be held accountable by the people????

That sounds downright REVOLUTIONARY!! Kinda like what a Socialist (GASP!) senator from Vermont has been saying.

[senz]

34. And that his opponent's supporters apparently view

with undisguised contempt.

Unless I read them wrong. Hope I read them wrong.

[Kalidurga]

52. But, Democrats are perfect all of them in every way...

You must never ever question this. Not even when they hide things like murder tapes. Not even when they allow blood mining from prisons and let virus infected blood kill thousands. Not even when they have numerous affairs and are accused of sexual assault. Not when they hide money in a freezer, snort cocaine, or any other acts that would have us howling for a Republicans head on a plate. Because Republicans are the definition of evil and Democrats are the definition of good and that is all you have to know. So, the only ones you have to worry about holding to account are Republicans because every single Democrat is double plus good, except Bernie, he is double plus bad even if he does or says the same thing Hillary says. But, all the other Democrats, they are double plus good, even DWS.

[babylonsister]

8. I like the

sentiment, but I take issue with the 'free ride' Obama got. For so many reasons.

We should all demand more. Why the hell not? But people have to be involved and imo there's so much apathy or/and ignorance.

[nilram]

9. I wonder if "free speech" would have it's own zone again.

[wilsonbooks]

11. We need to start now by supporting

Tim Canova.

https://timcanova.com/

If we can win there it will send a very powerful message to Washington

[Warren DeMontague]

23. ...

Right on

[DiehardLiberal]

33. In Oregon but donated. Be gone DWS!

[senz]

35. Ah, thanks! He's the one running against DWS.

Yes, definitely worth a donation.

[DiehardLiberal]

37. On board and ready to send that message to Washington in no

uncertain terms. Enough is enough!!!

[Samantha]

43. We should also stay united after this election

We should have our own database of members, we should call it something like "The Sanders Solution" preserving the planks Bernie Sanders has campaigned on, and we should essentially function the same way The Third Way functions within the Democratic Party. Lobby for our own issues, choose candidates to run that we will support that back Sanders' platform, make donations to the organization so we can contribute funds to help those candidates launch a run, and issue decision papers which we would disseminate when a controversial piece of legislation is in play. Regardless of how this election ends, I hope we do not lose the ground we have made so far.

Sam

[DemocracyDirect]

56. Yes shore up the progressives.

We can start monthly meetups for progressives and organize to get progressives elected and get progressive legislation passed.

Bernie said it has to come from the bottom up.

Leaders are easily marginalized by divisive politics.

Be the change you want to see in the world. - Gandhi

Be the bern!

[quickesst]

12. I'm a really skeered now..

... when you put it that way. Let me emphasize that. I'm a really skeered now when you put 💩it that way.

[Kittycat]

13. A great way to help our college students who graduate with debt

Or not getting support programs as promised through campaigns is to set up a wonderful College to Congress program. Where with proper demonstration of skills through community organization, fundraising, volunteering and campaign support - we help set them on their path to their own campaigns with a public funded political career (Bernie Style). So that they can repay their debt, and help work towards fulfilling the promises of their generation left unfulfilled by corporate and political greed.

[tokenlib]

14. Pres Trump would make sure her Lincoln bedroom stay is comfortable...n/t

[PoliticAverse]

17. Come on, a President Trump would build a hotel on the White House grounds. With rooms...

names after every President, Vice President and the like.

Rates and reservations available on trumphouse.com

[tokenlib]

24. Maybe the new ballroom he already promised is part of that..ha ha n/t

[Jim Lane]

58. Can I get a comp to the hotel if I'm wagering enough in the famed West Wing Casino? (n/t)

[PoliticAverse]

59. Certainly sir, and free tickets to see Ted Nugent performing in the East Wing. n/t

[Jim Lane]

60. Hot damn! I'm in! I presume the concert will be Open Carry. (n/t)

[PoliticAverse]

62. No (blame it on the SS), but feel free to bring your underaged girlfriend. n/t

[pat_k]

15. It's about more than elections. Gotta keep their feet to the fire!

Never trust politics to politicians.

The more people get engaged in "post-election" politics, the better for the nation.

And the sooner we win back both houses of Congress the better.

[UMTerp01]

16. We have to hold her feet to the fire

If she gets the nomination and wins the Presidency, there's no ifs, ands, or buts, we MUST hold her feet to the fire, which means bombarding the White House, protesting, petitions, everything. She cannot be allowed to pivot and flip flop!!

[Hekate]

30. That's what the Obama haters said, and then they sat out the 2010 election....

....because their fantasies were not fulfilled on Day One. Sitting out the 2010 election cost us the House and Senate. Then the Obama haters spent the rest of his two terms in office saying most of the things about him that they now say about Hillary. Oh, plus he's a POSUCS.

"Feet to the fire" without action doesn't help the cause, not that I've seen.

[senz]

36. Hey: don't even try that.

I am so sick and tired of Hill supporters calling us Obama haters.

I put in about 20 hours a week from mid 2011 to Nov. 2012 volunteering with OFA to get Obama reelected. And donated decent sums of money, as well.

Obama is a thousand times better than Hillary.

[noretreatnosurrender]

18. It is happening

They've hated us for a long time and judging by this election they are now starting to fear us.

[upaloopa]

28. Who is fearing who?

Hell you can't even get your side out to vote in the primaries!

All those people in those rallies sit on their asses on election night.

[Hekate]

31. Possibly still waiting for the DNC to come and register them to vote. But fear and hatred?

Honestly, what a dumb claim.

[noretreatnosurrender]

63. Not that you care, judging by your comment, but

what I was talking about was the establishment fearing the voters who are anti-establishment. This election has anti-establishment voters on both sides of the aisle.

[senz]

40. Some among the oligarchy may have felt a tad uneasy

at the sight of arenas full of energetic young people cheering on a candidate who stands for a return to economic fairness in the United States.

But they've got billions of dollars at their disposal, scores of bought-off politicians, domestic internment camps, 21st century crowd-control weaponry developed during the Bush administration, large mercenary organizations, as well as the U.S. military -- so I don't think they're terribly afraid.

But a president who actually stands up for the 99% might make them somewhat uncomfortable.

[shanti]

65. as they do in europe n/t

[72DejaVu]

19. "Imagine if they came to hate and fear us... "

I imagine that you'd continue to whine about how everybody's picking on you the whole while.

[senz]

41. Right, the people need to learn their place

accept what's offered to them, and shut up. Right?

[artislife]

51. I don't think you even begin to understand your avatar. nt

[cosmicone]

20. In other words

"we didn't get our way so we'll make your life miserable in anger."

Sounds like a divorced guy who saws his Ferrari in half because he was ordered to give half of everything to the ex-wife.

[Thinkingabout]

22. I would think members posting on DU would be more interested in getting a progressive agenda passed

than "giving the president which will be elected by the people hell", maybe I am thinking wrongly about getting progressive issues passed.

[Hekate]

25. Obama had a free ride? Are you planning to put together a group like the GOP did...

...that swore, on the very day of his Inauguration, that they would oppose his every move?

Gee, how honorable a prospect to look forward to from alleged Democrats.

[upaloopa]

27. Man you haven't had enough you have to carry it over into her administration.

Look it is every citizens right to criticize the President.

My guess is you will be pleasantly surprised at the fact that Hillary isn't the monster you make her out to be.

But I have always said your revolution isn't tied to Bernie. You can rise up any day you want. Why you haven't done it by now puzzles me.

[ebayfool]

29. Sure. Reward her with the Oval Office, more money than she can count ...

That'll teach her to fear us.

[BreakfastClub]

38. Do you mean like Obama did? He took the same money from the same people, so...nt

[Betty Karlson]

39. As long as we can still work to deny Clinton the nomination (half the voters haven't voted yet)

I suggest we try that first, and start strategising about what to do next in the unlikely event Clinton manages to win the GE.

[alcibiades_mystery]

42. Here's what I think

[artislife]

48. Including get the vote out for her. nt

[Number23]

44. "Who refuse to give her the free ride afforded Obama"

From the "left???!!???!"

[NuclearDem]

45. I read that, and I just couldn't even

[Number23]

46. Between the "Sanders supporters haven't done anything to receive any vitriol" and

"don't let your lying eyes fool you, we LOVED Obama" stuff around here now it's like watching a dryer that's been outfitted with a jet pack around here.

I never seen so much backtracking, rewinding and spinning.

[NuclearDem]

50. I mean, I knew we were "low information voters"

but I had no idea we were really juz so thiz duhhm.

[desmiller]

55. I believe it.

[NuclearDem]

57. Oh I see what you did there. Very clever!

I just had too much duhhmm to avoid walking into that one.

[artislife]

47. She is not getting in.

She is such a polarizing person.

I can't believe the reaction I have just thinking about her. Let alone people who really dislike just about every she stands for.

I think she likes this county's children and most of it's women. I will admit that.

[MFM008]

53. and we know this how?

Before she does anything including even being nominated. You want to imagine a HORRIFIC presidency?? Try Donald J Trump.
Imagine that presidency.

[Lil Missy]

54. I'm sure Republicans would love you being on their side. n/t

[JoePhilly]

61. Progressives gave Obama a free ride?

That's fucking hilarious.

[CajunBlazer]

64. If you continue to make threats you will soon find youself unwelcome on this site

You have said many times that you are only here to support Bernie and that you hate Hillary and would never vote for her. So be it, but expect patience for your particular type of BS to dry up quickly once the nomination is decided.

So perhaps you can move your location to the sidewalk in front of the White House where you can protest to your heart's content. Or perhaps you can find another website which will serve as an echo chamber for you and yours.

You will be limited to casting protest votes for third parties, expressing your frustrations on the internet with others of the far, far left, and perhaps shouting slogans during street protests that no one will really notice... and that probably a good thing.

To people like you who were never, and will never be a member of our party unless you can hand pick your candidate - welcome to oblivion.

[asuhornets]

66. Oh Brother.......n/t