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ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:09 PM Mar 2016

Obama Privately Tells Donors That Time Is Coming to Unite Behind Hillary Clinton

In unusually candid remarks, President Obama privately told a group of Democratic donors last Friday that Senator Bernie Sanders is nearing the point where his campaign against Hillary Clinton will come to an end, and that the party must soon come together to back her.

Obama acknowledged that Mrs. Clinton is perceived to have weaknesses as a candidate, and that some Democrats did not view her as authentic.

But he played down the importance of authenticity, noting that President George W. Bush — whose record he ran aggressively against in 2008 — was once praised for his authenticity.

Mr. Obama made the remarks after reporters had left a fund-raising event in Austin, Tex., for the Democratic National Committee. The comments were described by three people in the room for the event, all of whom were granted anonymity to describe a candid moment with the president. The comments were later confirmed by a White House official.


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Obama Privately Tells Donors That Time Is Coming to Unite Behind Hillary Clinton (Original Post) ProudToBeLiberal Mar 2016 OP
Was just reading this. Interesting. nt sufrommich Mar 2016 #1
Unrec Vincardog Mar 2016 #2
trash thread, too Hiraeth Mar 2016 #21
Oh, my - djean111 Mar 2016 #3
I've experienced this same kind of arm twisting. vintx Mar 2016 #4
Me too. peacebird Mar 2016 #5
Who were some of the donors? Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon, Timmy Geithner ? Impedimentus Mar 2016 #6
You never know. Austin is a lefty town. vintx Mar 2016 #12
Sanders is nearing the point where his campaign against Hillary Clinton will come to an end? magical thyme Mar 2016 #7
Donors don't want to waste their money hack89 Mar 2016 #16
Yeah, we are cool with that TM99 Mar 2016 #33
Average people can still waste their money. It is their money after all. nt hack89 Mar 2016 #46
"big donors are not going to give him money" Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #36
I don't care if you want to waste your money. It is your money, after all. hack89 Mar 2016 #47
Bernie is not frivolous! PADemD Mar 2016 #53
What value will you get from your donation? hack89 Mar 2016 #56
A President who shares my values. PADemD Mar 2016 #57
"Big donors" are the problem, not the solution n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #39
Not surprising that Obama would downplay the importance of authenticity BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #8
I've been largely happy with his presidency, but yeah... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #11
One of the most revealing Obama moments to me BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #19
That's what scares me... vi5 Mar 2016 #18
... SamKnause Mar 2016 #40
You dont need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #9
Did they discuss speaking fees? Impedimentus Mar 2016 #10
Yes! hrmjustin Mar 2016 #13
yep im done with this party. nt Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #14
The president is intimately familiar with the nuances of delegate math. MohRokTah Mar 2016 #15
Since he was even further behind in 2008 & all. appal_jack Mar 2016 #31
Obma took the delegate leaad in South Carolina. MohRokTah Mar 2016 #34
Not even remotely correct n/t Godhumor Mar 2016 #44
Clinton's delegate lead right now is nearly three times Obama's lead this time in 2008. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #45
Obama is correct. And Bernie, deep down, knows it too. scheming daemons Mar 2016 #17
with all due respect Mr. President, Hiraeth Mar 2016 #20
So he is using Bush as an example to unite the party behind her?? Autumn Mar 2016 #22
I know whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #23
You know we are fucked when a democratic president has to use Bush's "authenticity" Autumn Mar 2016 #38
Yeah, it's called "June" Obama. Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #24
He's following the money Impedimentus Mar 2016 #26
I proudly stand with President Obama... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #28
The President is right of course. workinclasszero Mar 2016 #25
"60 years after the war ends, two soldiers emerge from the jungle." DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #35
That unfortunate wrinkle in the neoliberal continuum, Bernie Sanders, is almost ironed out whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #27
"But he played down the importance of authenticity" - authenticity is the most important thing... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #29
Thanks for posting this Gothmog Mar 2016 #30
Even after she went behind his back with Blumenthal Politicalboi Mar 2016 #32
Did Hillary "evolve" on waiting until June? arcane1 Mar 2016 #37
Hillary has not called fof him to drop out. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #42
Well, June is approaching. In fact, it always is... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #41
Scale... Meet Thumb... WillyT Mar 2016 #43
And here come the Bernie supporters to trash Obama again...n/t taught_me_patience Mar 2016 #48
Then his supporters will have to step up -- Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2016 #49
I wasn't invited to the private meeting with Obama? Dems to Win Mar 2016 #50
"Attendees paid as much as $33,400 a ticket." ebayfool Mar 2016 #58
K&R livetohike Mar 2016 #51
I hope that kool aid tasted good to him tularetom Mar 2016 #52
Well he didn't meet with this donor... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #54
President Obama - he never fails to disappoint. Skwmom Mar 2016 #55
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. Oh, my -
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:16 PM
Mar 2016
But he played down the importance of authenticity

Too fucking late by half for that, methinks.
The donors may do as they are told. I am not biddable.
 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
4. I've experienced this same kind of arm twisting.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

I hope the people he was lecturing in Austin received it just as well as I did.

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
6. Who were some of the donors? Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon, Timmy Geithner ?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:20 PM
Mar 2016

Probably a rogues gallery of banisters and corporatists thugs. All doing "God's work" I suppose.

FEEL THE BERN - 2016

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
12. You never know. Austin is a lefty town.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

The impression I get is he was trying to convince them to give up on Bernie.

Her supporters have had that mindset for months now, so there'd be no other reason for him to try to sell that bullshit to those already in her corner.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
7. Sanders is nearing the point where his campaign against Hillary Clinton will come to an end?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:21 PM
Mar 2016

Oh really? Last I heard, Bernie's in it to the convention. And unlike most politicians, Bernie is known to be tenacious, dogged, and as good as his word.


Senator Roger Wicker — Republican, Mississippi
“I learned early on not to be automatically dismissive of a Bernie Sanders initiative or amendment… He’s tenacious and dogged and he has determination, and he’s not to be underestimated.”


Senator John Mccain — Republican, Arizona
“[While working on the Veterans Affairs legislation], I found him to be honorable and good as his word.”

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/10/1482833/-8-Quotes-From-Congress-About-Bernie-Sanders


hack89

(39,171 posts)
16. Donors don't want to waste their money
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:29 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie can campaign up to the convention but once it is clear he has no clear path to the nomination, big donors are not going to give him money. I suspect many have already made that decision.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
33. Yeah, we are cool with that
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:42 PM
Mar 2016

because the bulk of Sanders donors are not big money people. The average donation is $27.00. Fuck them, we don't need them to keep moving forward.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
36. "big donors are not going to give him money"
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:44 PM
Mar 2016

He doesn't HAVE ANY big donors

We, supporters have been funding him. How do you not know that?

He can, and will, go until the convention because we small donors are backing him. And guess what? His movement won't go away because he now has a better donor list and voter database than Obama had. And Sanders isn't going to tell us to go home, we aren't needed, as Obama did.

HILLARY is the one who is dependent on keeping big donors happy!!!

hack89

(39,171 posts)
47. I don't care if you want to waste your money. It is your money, after all.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:01 PM
Mar 2016

I can understand your reluctance to call it quits. It is not like I don't waste money on frivolous things myself.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
8. Not surprising that Obama would downplay the importance of authenticity
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:23 PM
Mar 2016

He masqueraded as a liberal and turned out to be a corporatist.

Bernie's campaign will be over when he says it's over Barack. Go play some more golf.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
11. I've been largely happy with his presidency, but yeah...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

...it's not like he's not part of the machine, too. When push comes to shove on matters that Big Money really cares about, he's dropped the ball.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
19. One of the most revealing Obama moments to me
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

Was when somebody in the press tried to push him on something he said during his campaign and Obama said, "I get it, you're trying to play gotcha'", as if nothing said during a campaign should be treated as something the candidate should be held accountable for after the campaign was over, that everybody knows a politician will say anything to get elected.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
18. That's what scares me...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:29 PM
Mar 2016

If he's what he got when we elected someone who is a liberal telling us we can hope and dream, what's going to happen if we elect someone more openly conservative who is telling us our hopes and dreams are silly and unattainable.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
15. The president is intimately familiar with the nuances of delegate math.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:28 PM
Mar 2016

He obviously knows that mathematically, the race is over.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
31. Since he was even further behind in 2008 & all.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:40 PM
Mar 2016

Yes, what insight! Authenticity is over-rated!

Obama was even further behind in 2008, and this even despite Derpy Watered-down Shartz's rejiggering of the Primary schedule to further favor her Hill-ness.

Your math is wrong. Your politics more so.

-app

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
34. Obma took the delegate leaad in South Carolina.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

He never lost it.

At this point in 2008, he had a 90 delegate lead. At no time in 2008 did his pledged delegate lead rise to the level Hillary has against Sanders now.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
45. Clinton's delegate lead right now is nearly three times Obama's lead this time in 2008.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

The math doesn't favor Sanders one bit. Since three of the five remaining contests with over a hundred delegates are closed primaries, it's nearly insurmountable.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
20. with all due respect Mr. President,
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

It ain't over til Bernie says its over.

Signed,
Waiting for the Fat Lady to sing.

PS. Bernie is in the same place you were in '08.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
38. You know we are fucked when a democratic president has to use Bush's "authenticity"
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

that the republicans swallowed hook line and sinker to excuse Hillary's authenticity problem.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
24. Yeah, it's called "June" Obama.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:34 PM
Mar 2016

And if he thinks the Dem party is going to unite for Hillary, he is delusional.

He probably figures the Sanders faction doesn't matter and therefore doesn't count. Well we'll see about that.

We grass rootsers have to put up with a lot that we can't control. But what we do control is who we accept and who we will vote for. That, the establishment has no say over.

I expected a lot better from this guy, and he's pissing me off right to the end.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
28. I proudly stand with President Obama...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:39 PM
Mar 2016

I proudly stand with President Obama and look forward to watching him vigorously campaign for Secretary Clinton as they re-create the Coalition of The Ascendant that swept him to victory in 2008 and 2012.


 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
25. The President is right of course.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:36 PM
Mar 2016

The math is on Hillary's side.

It ain't rocket science...unless your a Bernie fan anyway.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
35. "60 years after the war ends, two soldiers emerge from the jungle."
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016
Mystery surrounds Japanese men, both in their 80s, who say they have been in hiding since second world war

The two old men apparently declared they were soldiers, and the story they told when they emerged from the dense jungle of a Philippine island was yesterday the talk of the nation they claimed to have fought for.
According to reports, the Japanese men, who are both in their 80s, said they had been hiding on the island of Mindanao, which is 600 miles from Manila, since before the end of the second world war.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/may/28/secondworldwar.japan

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
29. "But he played down the importance of authenticity" - authenticity is the most important thing...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:40 PM
Mar 2016

if you can fake that you've got it made.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
49. Then his supporters will have to step up --
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:24 PM
Mar 2016

and make up the balance with their donations.

And to imply that 1) Bush had genuine authenticity in the first place and to 2) link it to Sander's makes me gag and shows, once again, how deeply out of touch those who succumb to the Washington Bubble are. But, this should not surprise anyone coming from a man who dismissed the late, great Sen. Paul Wellstone as a "gadfly".

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
50. I wasn't invited to the private meeting with Obama?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:25 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie has over a million donors -- there was meeting for them with Obama, and I didn't hear about it?

I'm certain the big donors Obama was talking to have long been united behind Hillary.

Bernie's small donors, like me, have other priorities and will continue donating to Bernie through June, at least.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
52. I hope that kool aid tasted good to him
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:36 PM
Mar 2016

She trashed him on a personal and racial basis during the 2008 campaign.

For four years she ran a shadow State Department and undercut his foreign policy constantly.

When she started to make noise about a presidential run, she belittled him as naive.

She hinted that if elected she would attempt to reverse the Iran deal that Obama and John Kerry negotiated.

In a nutshell, she was a disloyal cabinet member and a mendacious and vicious political opponent.

So, what the fuck does he owe her?

Or is he just aiming for a cushy gig with the Clinton Foundation after he leaves the WH?

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
54. Well he didn't meet with this donor...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:55 PM
Mar 2016

...and there are millions of us who don't agree with that position.

And this just sticks out like a sore thumb:

But he played down the importance of authenticity, noting that President George W. Bush — whose record he ran aggressively against in 2008 — was once praised for his authenticity.


Et tu, Barack? You really went there, crediting "authenticity" to GWB and therefore slyly tying GWB to Sanders, since we all know that "authenticity" is the single word people think of first when they think of Sanders? IMO that is shameful. But maybe that's just me.
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