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This Hillary supporter is OK with Bernie fighting to the end. (Original Post) trumad Mar 2016 OP
Aslong as he doesn't attack Hillary. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #1
How about if he exposes truths about Hillary? tk2kewl Mar 2016 #4
Imho no. He had his chance to attack her but it didn't work. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #7
Still more than half the states have not voted tk2kewl Mar 2016 #12
You say this with a straight face? Of course they know her faults. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #13
So if everyone knows and accepts them what's the harm in talking about them? tk2kewl Mar 2016 #16
It didn't work for him on Tuesday. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #19
Like I said, more than 25 states to go. We'll see what works and what doesn't tk2kewl Mar 2016 #21
Way back in 1990s - the US made a deal to give away a lot of jobs Baobab Mar 2016 #35
people have no idea Baobab Mar 2016 #36
Don't worry CorkySt.Clair Mar 2016 #40
Lol. We'll forward your ground rules. whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #32
No doubt. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #33
Attacks on Hillary from the left will HELP her if she's the nominee Jim Lane Mar 2016 #37
Are you familiar with the main concept behind services liberalisation, movement of natural persons Baobab Mar 2016 #38
I was until today bravenak Mar 2016 #2
I think he most comfortable in a fight tk2kewl Mar 2016 #5
He got the brakes beat off. bravenak Mar 2016 #6
It's only the 6th round, he's taken Hillary's best shots and he's still standing tk2kewl Mar 2016 #9
Got berned up off the block bravenak Mar 2016 #11
Still standing tk2kewl Mar 2016 #14
She caught his fade bravenak Mar 2016 #15
One post from me... tk2kewl Mar 2016 #17
Made him stop selling woof tickets bravenak Mar 2016 #18
I lied... tk2kewl Mar 2016 #20
Made him smeeeeelll what the Hill was cookin!! (Say it like the Rock from WWE) bravenak Mar 2016 #22
He was on hard attacks in IL, MI and OH. Infuenceing is fine--attacking riversedge Mar 2016 #3
Thank you for your comment and congratulations to you that she will likely win karynnj Mar 2016 #8
Bernie supporters could see him as her running mate... dubyadiprecession Mar 2016 #10
Sure. But it won' t happen. mylye2222 Mar 2016 #23
This is exactly what this is as far as the campaign is concerned nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #24
I agree with that. We need the best parts of Bernie's message and his people. DCBob Mar 2016 #25
Agreed but I don't want the cynicism of "Democrats are the same as Republicans" KittyWampus Mar 2016 #26
Even if it's true? improvingthecountry Mar 2016 #28
I have seen lists of FB Bernie supporters who are in their 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, 70,s and bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #30
Okay. H2O Man Mar 2016 #27
LOL bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #31
As long as he doesn't win right?..........On to the convention...... bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #29
Well, that's a sober-sounding assesment. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #34
You mean as in a political primary? Orsino Mar 2016 #39
This Hillary supporter is OK with that, as well. hamsterjill Mar 2016 #41
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
7. Imho no. He had his chance to attack her but it didn't work.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 05:31 PM
Mar 2016

Sorry but attacking her hurts her. We all know she has faults already.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
12. Still more than half the states have not voted
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 05:41 PM
Mar 2016

I think the voters in those states who may not be aware of "her faults" are entitled to learn the distinctions between Sanders and Clinton... Besides if everyone already knows what's the harm in talking about these faults?

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
16. So if everyone knows and accepts them what's the harm in talking about them?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 05:47 PM
Mar 2016

You sound like someone who wants to pretend that their abusive drunk aunt is just like Aunt Bea. You actually think everyone should just put Hillary's "faults" aside?

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
35. Way back in 1990s - the US made a deal to give away a lot of jobs
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:26 PM
Mar 2016

in the future in exchange for all sorts of things that left the developing world deeply in debt to the West.

Services liberalisation is basically a trade developing countries get rid of their public services, public healthcare, public education, in exchange for more openness.. Basically a blanket prohibition on profit-destroying public services, especially 'rights' to healthcare, education, etc.

We want the poor countries to become more like the "successful" US.

call it generosity if you want, but it was really about making higher profits, because the solution proposed is subcontracting at low wages - mandatory international competitive bidding for all government procurement, phasing in gradually, but irreversible (i.e. progressive)

with it likely being workers from developing countries getting those contracts. The big losers will be people in the developed countries without strong unions whose wages are well above global norms.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
36. people have no idea
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:29 PM
Mar 2016

teams made up of hundreds or even thousands of people must be working night and day on spin.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
37. Attacks on Hillary from the left will HELP her if she's the nominee
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:11 AM
Mar 2016

You'll note that Bernie isn't going around saying cattle futures Whitewater Vince Foster travel office sniper fire Benghazi Clinton Foundation etc. The most he's done in that direction is that, after Clinton admitted making mistakes in how she handled emails, he said the matter should be investigated, but he's been very mild even on that score, famously saying he was tired of hearing about her damn emails.

The Republicans (especially if the nominee is Trump) won't be so accommodating.

Sanders's "attacks" on Hillary have largely consisted of pointing out that she's too right-wing on a number of issues. The Republicans will not pick up on those arguments. It would certainly be amusing to see a Republican nominee attack her over the Iraq War Resolution, or call for reinstating Glass-Steagall, but I don't think that will happen.

Suppose that, between now and the conventions, millions of Americans receive (additional or initial) exposure to the idea that Hillary Clinton is well to the right of Bernie Sanders. Then in the fall the Republicans screech that she's too far to the left. What's the net result? She gets perceived as a centrist, a moderate, a person who sensibly avoids the extremes.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
38. Are you familiar with the main concept behind services liberalisation, movement of natural persons
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 10:31 AM
Mar 2016

thats going to hit "protectionist" Americans hard when their decent middle class jobs start getting contracted out to the lowest international bidders by the millions.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
9. It's only the 6th round, he's taken Hillary's best shots and he's still standing
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 05:34 PM
Mar 2016

Sit back and enjoy the show

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
23. Sure. But it won' t happen.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:04 PM
Mar 2016

Strategically she will surely pick a younger, minority-ascended person.

But the more Bernie will get delegates, the more he will gain influence on the GE platform draft.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
25. I agree with that. We need the best parts of Bernie's message and his people.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:14 PM
Mar 2016

I just hope it doesnt get ugly.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
26. Agreed but I don't want the cynicism of "Democrats are the same as Republicans"
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:15 PM
Mar 2016

to rub off on young adults who might listen to Sanders.

That's MY issue.

Fracturing the left is a very bad idea especially with Drumpf and the Tea party exploding the right.

 
28. Even if it's true?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:19 PM
Mar 2016

Don't you think we should be doing everything possible to make sure that doesn't happen? And what better way of doing that but pointing out things we don't like in the party?

I'm sorry but I don't want us to become North Korea.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
30. I have seen lists of FB Bernie supporters who are in their 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, 70,s and
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:21 PM
Mar 2016

above.......tons of them......there are a lot more than young people that support Bernie Sanders..the HRC group needs to do more research. Many of the states Hillary won were virtually tied with thousands of all ages voting for Bernie.

H2O Man

(73,577 posts)
27. Okay.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:17 PM
Mar 2016

I'm okay with Hillary staying in, in a sense. But it would be better for the party, the nation, and the children, if she dropped out today.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
41. This Hillary supporter is OK with that, as well.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:18 AM
Mar 2016

To steal a thought from a commentator this morning, IF Bernie were to drop out now and Clinton became the nominee today, the media would pretty much stop covering the Democrats during the remainder of the primary season, and all of the focus would be on the Republicans.

Don't get me wrong here - I think Hillary is going to be the ultimate nominee. But I think Bernie's involvement still serves a purpose, including allowing the remainder of the states that have not had their primaries yet to vote and have their say.

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