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reformist2

(9,841 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:25 PM Mar 2016

Camp Hillary's sudden calls to have Bernie drop out betray a nervousness about the road ahead.

It's not the mark of a confident campaign. Not at all.

If they were truly confident about their chances, they'd have no problem with harmless 'Old Uncle Bernie' staying in the race all the way until the convention.

Behind their claims of a "99%" certainty that Hillary will win it all, we know they're still scared.

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Camp Hillary's sudden calls to have Bernie drop out betray a nervousness about the road ahead. (Original Post) reformist2 Mar 2016 OP
When did the Clinton Campaign call for Bernie to drop out? Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #1
They never did. Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #8
That's what I figured. nt Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #12
You guys should re-read it said "Camp Hillary" obviously talking about supporters revbones Mar 2016 #18
That's not true either--I am a Hillary SUPPORTER and I think Sanders needs to stay in until MADem Mar 2016 #50
Excellent analysis giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #51
LOVE your post. and yes, agree. riversedge Mar 2016 #77
"Camp Hillary" is YOU people... John Poet Mar 2016 #41
What is Hillary's Primary Campaign Holiday Camp? wildeyed Mar 2016 #46
It's the Hillary side of DemocraticUnderground John Poet Mar 2016 #49
Not only that but the road ahead doesn't look good for Sanders. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #67
not directly but Clinton campaign director saying "its all but over" -essentially a call for ending BREMPRO Mar 2016 #17
So, never. Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #20
Who is actually CALLING for this? You're reading a headline in a right wing paper and interpreting. MADem Mar 2016 #58
the quote is correct, ignoring the rw np sensational headline BREMPRO Mar 2016 #73
That's not all there is to it. MADem Mar 2016 #74
R.I.F. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #24
They are so confident that... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #2
GOOD. John Poet Mar 2016 #43
News is raging today about Clinton is now in the GE with Trump and she is acting like it bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #3
Word. nt nc4bo Mar 2016 #4
"Camp Hillary?" Really? I've seen no one from the campaign call for Sanders to drop out. MADem Mar 2016 #5
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/16/clinton-campaign-bernie-sanders-its-over/ Gwhittey Mar 2016 #19
Why are you repeatedly posting a RIGHT WING SOURCE that DOES NOT SAY what you are MADem Mar 2016 #34
Any port in a storm, eh?...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #35
Really! And that source is like a North Korean port! MADem Mar 2016 #60
I don't click on Washington Times articles. wildeyed Mar 2016 #47
Frankly, I don't care if Bernie stays in... book_worm Mar 2016 #6
Bernie hasn't won anywhere on Republican votes. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #31
The longer he stays in, the longer he can grab the last gasp of the fundraising dollars. MADem Mar 2016 #36
I'm absolutely nervous about the road ahead. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #7
OK, those are some valid points... especially the one about the lemming-head! reformist2 Mar 2016 #84
Either that or we want to focus on the general. Chichiri Mar 2016 #9
She doesn't need any help looking worse. floriduck Mar 2016 #37
I don't recall the Clinton Campaign asking him to drop out Trenzalore Mar 2016 #10
Here it is just for you a super secret new site Gwhittey Mar 2016 #22
Thanks. 840high Mar 2016 #29
Stop giving us a rightwing link with a headline that isn't backed up by the article. It makes you MADem Mar 2016 #38
They've been demanding Sanders drop out since before the primaries began. Marr Mar 2016 #11
Who are they who have been demanding this? book_worm Mar 2016 #13
Some posters on DU,who control very,very important sufrommich Mar 2016 #15
I don't know maybe Hillarys campaign Gwhittey Mar 2016 #23
you keep mercuryblues Mar 2016 #33
Unnamed Somebodies that a right wing piece of crap newspaper alluded to in a headline!!! nt MADem Mar 2016 #39
Hillary supporters, campaign surrogates, etc. Marr Mar 2016 #32
Yep. If one were secure in one's "inevitability"... would this be necessary? AzDar Mar 2016 #14
Would what be necessary? The "Big Lie" that anyone in Clinton's campaign called for anything? nt MADem Mar 2016 #40
We are very confident so don't you worry about our worries. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #16
LOL. Because you've been right about so many things this campaign. DanTex Mar 2016 #21
Bingo - this shadow campaign only shows they are nervous that her support is tepid tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #25
Well, if the POTUS tells a donor group that sadoldgirl Mar 2016 #26
Probably be more effective to say that to Sanders' donors, wouldn't it? mikehiggins Mar 2016 #83
She has bigger fish to fry with Trump. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #27
The Clinton campaign has NEVER called for him to drop out. Bleacher Creature Mar 2016 #28
That's not even funny--to rely on a headline from the MOONIE TIMES! MADem Mar 2016 #45
Another thing we know is that they don't do math correctly. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #30
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Clinton has it wrapped up. We have been hearing this from Sanders supporters seabeyond Mar 2016 #42
Advocating for him to drop out is much different from switching focus to the General Godhumor Mar 2016 #44
Wait, there is a Camp Hillary? wildeyed Mar 2016 #48
Fucking pantsuit badges. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #52
They are probably going to practice wildeyed Mar 2016 #54
Yes!!! giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #55
Wait? Wut? wildeyed Mar 2016 #59
Jury results. merrily Mar 2016 #53
Link, please? n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #56
Michigan had something to say about ""99%" certainty that Hillary will win" GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #57
It's called waffling. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #61
*LMAO* Hydra Mar 2016 #62
They damn well better be nervous. If they gave a shit at all about this Country and the world Lorien Mar 2016 #63
LMAO! MaggieD Mar 2016 #64
all i have in my head is PRESIDENT KERRY! + we know THAT did NOT happen. i smell lurch. pansypoo53219 Mar 2016 #65
It's true if they were so confident they wouldn't keep repeating how inevitable she is. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #66
The title is disingenuous,but... LAS14 Mar 2016 #68
nervous AND increasingly desperate. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #69
They were 99% sure about MI as well. basselope Mar 2016 #70
I'm not surprised you need to interpret it as such. LanternWaste Mar 2016 #71
Remember when we were all "nervous" a month or two ago? brooklynite Mar 2016 #72
She is going to lose pdsimdars Mar 2016 #75
Name one person from the Clinton campaign that asked Sanders to drop out? n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #76
Please post a link of the Clinton campaign asking Sanders to drop out. Beacool Mar 2016 #78
I can read between the lines. Can you? reformist2 Mar 2016 #82
More Tokyo Rose Propaganda from Camp Hillary PeoViejo Mar 2016 #79
I think the Hillary campaign should pour all of their resources & efforts researching Donald Trump Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #80
I don't believe the Clinton campaign has ever called for that. MineralMan Mar 2016 #81
 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
1. When did the Clinton Campaign call for Bernie to drop out?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:29 PM
Mar 2016

You have a link, or is this more baseless conjecture?

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
18. You guys should re-read it said "Camp Hillary" obviously talking about supporters
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:11 PM
Mar 2016

and not "Hillary's Campaign". Sheesh.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
50. That's not true either--I am a Hillary SUPPORTER and I think Sanders needs to stay in until
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:42 PM
Mar 2016

he squeezes every possible PENNY out of his supporters.

He needs to get them to maximize their donations--he needs to push-push-push and get the Sanders "Camp" to write checks all the way up to their donation limits.

That way, Democratic Leading Lights, who are great at gathering people together and getting them to write checks, won't have to spend too much of their time at fundraisers to retire Sanders' debt. Instead, they can put their energies to work to help the downticket races.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
41. "Camp Hillary" is YOU people...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:27 PM
Mar 2016

All her supporters hanging out at Hillary's Primary Campaign Holiday Camp.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
46. What is Hillary's Primary Campaign Holiday Camp?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:36 PM
Mar 2016

I am a supporter, but not nervous or calling for anyone to drop out

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
49. It's the Hillary side of DemocraticUnderground
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:40 PM
Mar 2016

with balloons and posters and bumperstickers and memes and fun stuff.

But stay away from the hot dogs

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
67. Not only that but the road ahead doesn't look good for Sanders.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:48 AM
Mar 2016

Clinton will, in all likelihood, win a majority of the remaining delegates.

BREMPRO

(2,331 posts)
17. not directly but Clinton campaign director saying "its all but over" -essentially a call for ending
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:11 PM
Mar 2016

the primary before states favoring Sanders kick in..."Moving forward, the Clinton campaign argues the race is all but over. In the memo to reporters, Clinton campaign director Robby Mook stressed that there’s virtually no realistic path for Mr. Sanders to capture the nomination.

“The broad coalition of Democrats supporting Hillary Clinton has given her a nearly insurmountable lead in pledged delegates, and we are confident that for the first time in our nation’s history, the Democratic Party will nominate a woman as their presidential nominee,” Mr. Mook said."


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/16/clinton-campaign-bernie-sanders-its-over/

MADem

(135,425 posts)
58. Who is actually CALLING for this? You're reading a headline in a right wing paper and interpreting.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:05 PM
Mar 2016

Just because Mook says "WE think Clinton is going to win" that is not a "call for ending the primary." "Essentially" or otherwise.

Those of us in the Clinton Camp (and I am a proud CAMPER) have been saying we think she will be the nominee--and the next POTUS-- from Day One.

We've always had faith in our candidate. That doesn't mean we think Sanders should leave--in fact, the longer he stays in, the more money he can raise to retire his debt. He should start getting rid of unnecessary expenditures and staffers, and transition them to Super Pacs, like he was doing with that Millenial Super Pac. The FEC isn't going to punish anyone, especially if they do it without any formal permission/knowledge. Some "Third Party" needs to go in and "lure" them away, or something...!

But he needs to push his donors to dig deep and max out, NOW. That way, he'll be able to pay everyone what they are owed, pay his bills, and not have to spend a long time shlumping around, trying to raise money--we've seen that before and it's no darn fun.

BREMPRO

(2,331 posts)
73. the quote is correct, ignoring the rw np sensational headline
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 10:08 AM
Mar 2016

it was a press release and this is just the first one that popped up.

i'm mystified by the assumption that you believe Sanders is staying in the race to "retire his debt".. he has no debt to retire.according to the latest FEC filing has 14 million still on hand to spend and very strong continued support and room to expand donations with majority of donations $200 or less.
http://www.fec.gov/disclosurep/pnational.do

Sanders Summary
Contributions
Individual Icon Individual $93,883,341
PAC Icon PAC $3,637
Party Icon Party $0
Candidate Icon Candidate $0
Federal Funds $0
Transfers-In $1,500,000
Disbursements $80,763,804
Cash On Hand $14,661,951


Size of Contributions
$200 and Under $80,626,723
$200.01 - $499 $5,062,931
$500 - $999 $3,793,297
$1000 - $1999 $3,297,690
$2000 and Over $1,981,339

Clinton is the one that is in danger of maxing out her donors at this point with more maxed individual contributions and more super pac and corporate sponsorship (does that tell you anything?) http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-donors-218569..

CLinton Summary
Contributions
Individual Icon Individual $120,495,964
PAC Icon PAC $940,409
Party Icon Party $1,000
Candidate Icon Candidate $468,037
Federal Funds $0
Transfers-In $4,440,000
Disbursements $93,424,167
Cash On Hand $32,938,564
Size of Contributions
$200 and Under $34,778,487
$200.01 - $499 $4,927,936
$500 - $999 $5,716,745
$1000 - $1999 $13,603,063
$2000 and Over $71,156,509

Clintons majority is $2000 or over leaving her vulnerable to maxing out.
If i were running her campaign that would be a concern for running out of money while Sanders can continue to raise..


Mostly though with a Clinton coronation, i worry about her lackluster enthusiasm factor (especially among younger and independent voters)/ her hawkish war stances/corporate support/connections, status quo compromises, Clinton family baggage factor, Clinton foundation and email investigations (especially her close adviser Blumenthal re: his Libya business interests encouraging Clinton to advise Obama for regime change for his personal gain) I also worry about the negatives among so many democrats and pure hatred among many conservative inspiring voter turnout against her as well as the potential for Clinton indictment in choosing her to be the democratic nominee. Regarding her and the head to head match ups. most national polls show her weaker than Sanders in all potential match ups. i worry any shoe to drop in any category will further hurt her chances.

I believe Bernie has the best chance to sweep in along with him a democratic senate and potentially house as well giving us the first chance in generations to return to the roots of the democratic party- middle class expansion and economic and wealth equality not seen since FDR. With Clinton, we may get a "democratic president" but likely no democratic senate or house and the same compromised legislation Obama settled for that don't alter the fundamentals of historically inequitable wealth distribution and corrupted politics that so plague our country.

Convinced me i'm wrong.....



MADem

(135,425 posts)
74. That's not all there is to it.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:48 PM
Mar 2016

But there comes a point in time when you have to start cutting back, closing up, and settling invoices. He pays way too many staff, IMO, and we saw how much bang for his buck he got in SC with 240 paid staff at minimum fifteen bucks an hour, many paid more. He cut back in NC when he realized that was a no-go (and one fellow saw a conspiracy in it, apparently and created frantic YTs asserting strange conspiracies to include "internal corruption&quot .

Also, your link only goes through this point in time:

Contributions to Sanders, Bernard Through 01/31/2016


That was well before he was beaten down in five states in one night. I will say quite honestly, those multiple defeats surprised me. I thought Sanders was much stronger than he turned out to be, and I thought he'd run away with MO, win OH, and compete and maybe beat in IL. I figured Clinton would own FL and NC, as she did, and we'd slog on. But that was a DRUBBING, 'margins' notwithstanding. Sanders underperformed, yet again, and Clinton exceeded (yet again) expectations despite unkind and sexist media coverage.


Sanders doesn't have an endless supply of scratch, and with these losses most recently, and the likelihood that he is NOT going to succeed in his quest, a lot of those recurring donations are going to go away. And people who might have contributed had he done well are saying "Naaaah--I can spend this on those new shoes I was looking at."

Who throws good money after bad? His receipts will go down-down-down as more and more people realize that his chance is that of a snowball in Florida in July at high noon. Not everyone is a "Die Hard Fan." Some people have to watch their dollars, or just don't see a point in tilting at windmills.

Once you start cutting checks for severed campaign employees, paying the rents due on offices, settling those bills that are sitting in the in-box with a ninety day due date, etc., that money can go POOF in a real hurry. As he draws down, he needs to keep the cash flowing IN, and the way to do that is to insist that a) There is a path, and b) He's gonna do it, oh yes, he is! The people who want to believe, will, and they will keep handing over their money. Eventually even those Die Hards will figure it out, but in the meantime they will help him keep the lights on and the staff paid while he shrinks the staff, makes the economies, and does the draw down thing.

I don't worry about young voters at all. They get interested and most of the time, they don't show up because they didn't bother to register, or forgot, or didn't want to take the bus and couldn't grab a ride, or whatever.

Ask Howard Dean. He'll tell ya.

Thing is, they don't get "disillusioned." They fart around for a few years, then they grow up, become adults, and start voting. Did the kids who voted for McGovern "give up?" No. It took them awhile, but they got off their asses when they grew up and voted in Carter and Clinton. AND Gore (thanks a lot, Supremes). AND Obama. It's not Young Republicans of 1972 who put Barack in the White House, after all.

And as for coat-tails? Sanders can't even get super delegates to back him (and twenty some-odd people are a drop in the bucket) and he's been on the Hill for a quarter century. What is up with that--he has NO friends up there? Why is that, do you suppose?

Could it be that he's never gotten off his ass and campaigned for his 'pals' in the House/Senate? Could it be that Democrats don't like a guy who advocated primarying a sitting Dem POTUS in 2012? What makes you think he's going to help anyone now when he has never done it before?

By contrast, HRC has never been shy about supporting fellow Dems--she established a PAC to do just that (and she even gave money from it to .... wait for it ... BERNIE SANDERS--there's a reason he calls her his friend, he owes his Senate seat in no small part to her and other Senate Dems). She's got coat-tails, and she's also got a spouse who can draw crowds, produce media availabilities, put candidates on local TV simply by him showing up, and help downticket candidates in a big way.

But--to get back to the main point of this thread--no one is calling for Sanders to get out. He can drag this out as long as he wants. Hopefully, he'll be able to separate enough money from his supporters to keep the engine chugging while he slogs on, because I'd rather not have to donate to the DNC to pay his debts (and he will have them as his people peel away). I'd rather that kind of scratch go down ticket.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
3. News is raging today about Clinton is now in the GE with Trump and she is acting like it
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:31 PM
Mar 2016

so if she is acting like it...Bernie needs to go...let's just ignore him. Not happening.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. "Camp Hillary?" Really? I've seen no one from the campaign call for Sanders to drop out.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:32 PM
Mar 2016

You should correct your headline lest people think you are misstating deliberately.

Making stuff up like that .... It's not the mark of a confident campaign. Not at all.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. Why are you repeatedly posting a RIGHT WING SOURCE that DOES NOT SAY what you are
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:16 PM
Mar 2016

claiming it says? Did you even BOTHER TO READ the article?

Show me the quote from any member of Clinton's "camp" that says what you're trying to insist, here?


Where in that article does it quote or name ANYONE from the campaign speaking to that wingnut piece of shit "paper" saying anything close to that?

I think you owe us all a retraction, for two reasons--first, for insinuating that Clinton's campaign actually has said anything, and second, for using that shit Reverend Moon, Lunatic source.

Now--either PROVE your assertion, or correct yourself.

smh!!!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
60. Really! And that source is like a North Korean port!
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:21 PM
Mar 2016

I'd rather take my chances in the thick of a tai-fun!!! Batten down the hatches, full speed ahead!!!!

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
6. Frankly, I don't care if Bernie stays in...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:34 PM
Mar 2016

I think competition is good. I know that he will be gracious and endorse her eventually and campaign for the ticket. He will have some primary/caucus wins ahead, but so, too, will HRC. He won't be able to catch up with her, clearly. He will probably win most of the caucuses in the next few weeks in states like Idaho, Wyoming, Alaska, Washington. He has a 50-50 shot at Wisconsin. They are all open contests where independents and republicans can vote in a Democratic primary and he has done better in those states. However, in a month there will be a series of closed primaries in states like New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland & Rhode Island which will favor HRC.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
31. Bernie hasn't won anywhere on Republican votes.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:42 PM
Mar 2016

This idea that Bernie's campaign was nothing but a Republican plot needs to stop.

The Democratic Party hasn't been hurt by Bernie's presence in the race at all.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
36. The longer he stays in, the longer he can grab the last gasp of the fundraising dollars.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:22 PM
Mar 2016

Odds are he'll end up owing money, but the more bills he can pay off with those twenty seven dollar donations, the less the DNC will have to cover, at the end of the day. I'm sure people who are Big "Get" fundraisers would rather be raising money for downticket races than helping Sanders retire his campaign debts.

Already, there are Sanders campaign employees jumping off the gravy train and going to a Millenial Super Pac....where they will get paid with PRIVATE dollars that don't have as much scrutiny applied to them.

If more of this starts happening, and more people start leaving the campaign and going to some sort of "transition" job, we can pretty much see what is happening, big pic.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
7. I'm absolutely nervous about the road ahead.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:36 PM
Mar 2016

Clinton is the clear favourite to beat Trump, but she's far from certain to do so.

And anything that makes that less likely makes me very nervous indeed.

It's absolutely the case that Sanders has the right to stay in the race if he chooses to do so, and no-one else has the right to force him out.

But it's also absolutely the case that if he stays in then his chance of winning is absolutely tiny, and that by staying in he is making it less unlikely that the next US president will have a lemming on his head.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
10. I don't recall the Clinton Campaign asking him to drop out
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:43 PM
Mar 2016

Though a change in the rhetoric coming from the Sanders campaign would be nice with the apparent math.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
38. Stop giving us a rightwing link with a headline that isn't backed up by the article. It makes you
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:24 PM
Mar 2016

look really, really BAD.

The way the "campaign" said anything to Sanders was by WINNING. Not by "telling" them anything.

smh.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
11. They've been demanding Sanders drop out since before the primaries began.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:43 PM
Mar 2016

No one takes them seriously anymore.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
32. Hillary supporters, campaign surrogates, etc.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:48 PM
Mar 2016

You're really going to act like you never heard any of that, huh?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
40. Would what be necessary? The "Big Lie" that anyone in Clinton's campaign called for anything? nt
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:26 PM
Mar 2016

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
25. Bingo - this shadow campaign only shows they are nervous that her support is tepid
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:22 PM
Mar 2016

and Super Delegates are not in this to support one person over another, they are in it to win it in the Fall. Tepid support for a candidate means tepid turnout in the general.

and the untrustworthy numbers are through the roof, so it's not like they don't have good reason to be afraid

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
26. Well, if the POTUS tells a donor group that
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:22 PM
Mar 2016

it is time to unite the party behind one candidate,
and the media publish it, you cannot be surprised
that there is a strong effort on behalf of the party
apparatchiks to try to end the primaries now.

After all, who is the head of the party??!!

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
83. Probably be more effective to say that to Sanders' donors, wouldn't it?
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:37 PM
Mar 2016

People who pay thousands for a rubber chicken dinner really aren't part of the coalition, now are they?

Sort of like preaching to the choir.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
27. She has bigger fish to fry with Trump.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:30 PM
Mar 2016

The sooner she can devote her resources to combatting Trump, the better. Trump isn't going to wait for Bernie to bow out before he turns his full Arsenal on Hillary. Another political reality.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
28. The Clinton campaign has NEVER called for him to drop out.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:39 PM
Mar 2016

And please don't bother responding with a misleading Washington Times article (do I even need the "misleading" qualifier??) that's based on a single quote from Robby Mook stating that Bernie has no path to victory.

Stating the obvious isn't the same as voicing an opinion that he should drop out. If he wants to keep getting his message across, he can stay in. But that doesn't mean that he has any shot at winning.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
45. That's not even funny--to rely on a headline from the MOONIE TIMES!
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:32 PM
Mar 2016

And build an argument based on their fantasies!

Here is my take--I think Sanders needs to stay in until he can get every penny he possibly can out of his donors. He needs to push them to donate the max, to dig deep, to fork it over to the maximum possible extent.

I hope they donate to him hand over fist--that way, he can retire his debt and any money that Dems raise afterward will be spent on "downticket" runs and not to pay his bills.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
42. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Clinton has it wrapped up. We have been hearing this from Sanders supporters
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:27 PM
Mar 2016

for months. Always going around saying something like this.

Happy dances abound....

There is a reason in the past, Democrats bow out when it is obvious they lost. Good for the whole. Not self absorbed, ego driven interest.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
44. Advocating for him to drop out is much different from switching focus to the General
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:29 PM
Mar 2016

Trump has already started in on Hillary; you damn well better believe she is going to pivot to him instead of giving him 4 few months to lob insults.

But having enough confidence to switch to the GE is a far different thing than telling Bernie it is time to drop out.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
48. Wait, there is a Camp Hillary?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:40 PM
Mar 2016

And no one invited me They are probably sitting around the campfire singing Who runs the World? Girls! and woking on their pantsuit badges right now without me

merrily

(45,251 posts)
53. Jury results.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:58 PM
Mar 2016
Camp Hillary's sudden calls to have Bernie drop out betray a nervousness about the road ahead.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511518550

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This post is a direct lie and has no link to substantiate it's claim.

the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Silly post, and incorrect assertion, but it'e not attacking anyone.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Geez, why was this harmless post alerted?
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter, what is the "direct" lie? Where is the TOS that says a poster cannot state his or her opinion? Bad faith alert.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't see where the lie occurs here, honestly, nor why the post would require a link. Doesn't seem to imply that there is an official HRC position, just a poster airing an opinion or impression. Vote to leave it.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Ridiculous alert. It's an opinion, not a lie.


Gotta wonder about Juror 4.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
57. Michigan had something to say about ""99%" certainty that Hillary will win"
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:04 PM
Mar 2016

let's hear from the rest of the states and then settle this in Philadelphia

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
62. *LMAO*
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:31 PM
Mar 2016

Funny watching Team Hill pretend they haven't been banging this drum for months.

It must be annoying to them that they had to wait until last Tuesday for an actual sweep...and it's still not over.

And I'm with you- even with a clean sweep, they are still sweating bullets. What do they know that we don't?

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
63. They damn well better be nervous. If they gave a shit at all about this Country and the world
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:57 AM
Mar 2016

they wouldn't be backing a candidate with such a high negative rating that a virtual unknown with no media coverage is giving her a challenge. If she didn't have the media and DNC in her pocket, she would already be out.

If you want America to have a future, vote for Bernie!

pansypoo53219

(20,983 posts)
65. all i have in my head is PRESIDENT KERRY! + we know THAT did NOT happen. i smell lurch.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:21 AM
Mar 2016

GO BERNIE! we have a drumpf in the wings.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
66. It's true if they were so confident they wouldn't keep repeating how inevitable she is.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:24 AM
Mar 2016

There are many months to go. Anything could happen. Hillary might have to drop out.

You might have n Biden swooping in at the convention trying to pick up Hillary's delegates. You just never know.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
68. The title is disingenuous,but...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:22 PM
Mar 2016

...I'd like to be on record as a member of "Camp Hillary" that I absolutely do not want Bernie to drop out. Check the link below.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511515794

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
69. nervous AND increasingly desperate.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:25 PM
Mar 2016

This is not where they wanted to be at all, at this point in time. They wanted her to have her hands free to run run run to the right again, and instead she must still consider further concessions to the left. How grilling it must be...

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
71. I'm not surprised you need to interpret it as such.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:54 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not surprised you need to interpret it as such.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
78. Please post a link of the Clinton campaign asking Sanders to drop out.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:56 PM
Mar 2016

Everything I've read has stated the contrary, that her campaign would not ask him to drop out.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
80. I think the Hillary campaign should pour all of their resources & efforts researching Donald Trump
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:02 PM
Mar 2016

and how they might beat him. And don't forget to gin up as much fear as possible while you're at it.

MineralMan

(146,320 posts)
81. I don't believe the Clinton campaign has ever called for that.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:04 PM
Mar 2016

Do you have a link I can visit that demonstrates it?

Individual Clinton supporters are not the Clinton campaign, BTW.

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