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Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:31 PM Mar 2016

Not Such a Landslide When You Take Away the Super Delegates:

Here is why Hillary and her supporters acting like the race is over and she is winning a landslide is so absurd:

Hillary Clinton: 1,606 - 467 superdelegates = 1139
Bernie Sanders: 851 - 26 superdelegates = 825


1139
825
__________

314 Difference


NOT YET ALLOCATED 2,308!


Based on a totally unfair fight, I'd say Bernie is doing pretty dam well! WHY THE HELL SHOULD BERNIE STEP DOWN NOW?

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Not Such a Landslide When You Take Away the Super Delegates: (Original Post) Chasstev365 Mar 2016 OP
Indeed. It doesn't look nearly as bad if you remove the actual thing that makes it look really bad. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #1
I guess Kos followed through on his promise. Squinch Mar 2016 #2
You have a point. 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #3
You looked at the numbers? RobertEarl Mar 2016 #8
Thank you. 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #9
Don't worry calguy Mar 2016 #4
Gosh. You mean it isn't over? Octafish Mar 2016 #5
A deficit of 314 is harder to overcome than some seem to realize. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #6
Bernie's also correct to note that the tide is turning. Between KS, IL, and MI, the delegate count WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2016 #7
You may not realize this, but there are pledged delegates in IL that haven't been allocated yet onenote Mar 2016 #10
Carefully avoiding Ohio. Codeine Mar 2016 #11
:) he's doing better, for sure WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2016 #12
They moved it. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #14
Obama's pledged delegate lead in 2008 was never over 102 ... and Clinton could never catch up frazzled Mar 2016 #13
 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
1. Indeed. It doesn't look nearly as bad if you remove the actual thing that makes it look really bad.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:34 PM
Mar 2016

It's also really not that bright outside during the day if you just close your eyes.

21st Century Poet

(254 posts)
3. You have a point.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:35 PM
Mar 2016

I looked at the numbers yesterday and I was surprised at how relatively close they are. If the system wasn't so skewed and so guided by the party and the media, I would say that Mr Sanders still has a really good chance of winning. Not sure I can say it though with the system being as it is.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
8. You looked at the numbers?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:41 PM
Mar 2016

That's more than most have done. And you saw that the race is still relatively close. That means you have an open mind and are pretty damn smart. <grin>

Welcome to DU, Poet

calguy

(5,325 posts)
4. Don't worry
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:35 PM
Mar 2016

It'll be pretty much a landslide when all the states have voted and the final delegate count is in.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
5. Gosh. You mean it isn't over?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:37 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks for the heads-up, Chasstev365! I'm gonna get back in there and FIGHT!

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
6. A deficit of 314 is harder to overcome than some seem to realize.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:39 PM
Mar 2016

Especially when the candidate with 1139 does best in large states and the one with 825 does best in small states. You need not be a math genius or fortune teller to see where things are headed.

I wouldn't expect Sanders to step down now. After NY, PA and MD vote in late April, however, I suspect Clinton's lead will be so overwhelming that Sanders will determine it's time to step aside.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
7. Bernie's also correct to note that the tide is turning. Between KS, IL, and MI, the delegate count
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:40 PM
Mar 2016

was even. By contrast, Bernie didn't fare well in red Dixie. So West we go!

onenote

(42,749 posts)
10. You may not realize this, but there are pledged delegates in IL that haven't been allocated yet
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:57 PM
Mar 2016

In fact, there are 21 pledged delegates not yet allocated in IL and 2 in Ohio. Clinton won both of those states and probably will get more than half of those delegates, increasing her lead a bit more. Furthermore, in Florida (16), Mississippi (3) and North Carolina (2) there are another 21 pledged delegates not yet allocated and given the size of Clinton's wins in those states she should pick up more than half of those.

The additional delegates may not seem like a lot, but it also means the number of delegates not yet awarded will be dropping, raising the bar for Bernie too come back.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
12. :) he's doing better, for sure
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:12 PM
Mar 2016

and no, I did not realize 21 of my delegates have yet to be allocated. I've been listening to local radio and it never came up. OK, I'll float this out there again after all the delegates have been allocated

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
13. Obama's pledged delegate lead in 2008 was never over 102 ... and Clinton could never catch up
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:38 AM
Mar 2016

to it, despite her winning the large states of New York and California. So a delegate lead, at this mid-point in the race, of more than 314 is ... a LANDSLIDE.

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