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JohnA1

(67 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:26 PM Oct 2012

OHIO - Are you worried it will be stolen from Obama?

Now theres no doubt in my mind in a fair election Obama would mop the floor with Romney but with so much hinging on Ohio I am starting to feel a bit concerned due to what I'm hearing. It's obvious Romney is making a huge play for the state and when I heard his son is involved with the electronic voting machines for Ohio that really concerns me. Why the hell would his son be involved with voting machines unless he planned to use them to make sure his dad wins the state? It really is terrifying to think that this election could be stolen by Romney thanks to his wealth. I just hope the people of Ohio come out in massive numbers for Obama and Romney cant steal the election with the machines.

Does Obama have a path to victory without Ohio? I know it sucks to think about this scenario but I dont put anything past the repubs. They lie cheat and steal with mastery and theres no reason to believe they are not going to do all they can to steal this election.

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OHIO - Are you worried it will be stolen from Obama? (Original Post) JohnA1 Oct 2012 OP
Republicans steal elections. immoderate Oct 2012 #1
Considering the resources going to Ohio JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #2
Extremely worried liberal N proud Oct 2012 #3
Yes. PDJane Oct 2012 #4
I Think.. JiminyJominy Oct 2012 #5
I sure hope your right and...... JohnA1 Oct 2012 #7
Not really that worried Sugarcoated Oct 2012 #6
No. Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #8
The way the Sec of State is acting there Thrill Oct 2012 #9
Yes I'm worried... we all remember 2004 budkin Oct 2012 #10
They weren't garthranzz Oct 2012 #16
big time. kerouac2 Oct 2012 #11
You mean like they did in '04? Deep13 Oct 2012 #12
No MSMITH33156 Oct 2012 #13
I think not this time Grateful for Hope Oct 2012 #14
Do you think there is some kind of record being gathered that shows flamingdem Oct 2012 #17
I know they do their own internal polls Grateful for Hope Oct 2012 #19
I suspect there is. Grateful for Hope Oct 2012 #28
I think they may want to steal Ohio but in the end I do not think they will be able to do it. demgrrrll Oct 2012 #15
Your headline is inaccurate - I worry that the election will be stolen from the people! FrenchieCat Oct 2012 #18
well... LiberalElite Oct 2012 #20
I am doubtful there will be anything but the usual nobunnyclue Oct 2012 #21
Nobunny I've been saying the same thing - we need a rural presence toby jo Oct 2012 #22
hell yes Howler Oct 2012 #23
How could you ask such a thing? ailsagirl Oct 2012 #24
Yes I'm worried. But I don't know what I can do about it. begin_within Oct 2012 #25
I don't think there's a point in being worried about things I can't control fujiyama Oct 2012 #26
Worried, but nothing to be done about it. GranholmFan Oct 2012 #27

liberal N proud

(60,339 posts)
3. Extremely worried
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:29 PM
Oct 2012

All the players are in the proper places and they are doing everything they can to either doctor the polls or discredit them.

2004 comes screaming back to mind.

JiminyJominy

(340 posts)
5. I Think..
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:30 PM
Oct 2012

We've got some cushion there so I'm not too concerned.

My good buddy is a Ohio State Grad and he's been back to Ohio 2 times for ball games this fall and he says there is absolutely NO WAY Ohio is voting for Romney. He even said he doesn't know how the polls show it so close because he just doesn't see it.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
8. No.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:33 PM
Oct 2012

In 2004, Kerry winning Ohio was a long shot. Almost every poll had him losing. It's the exact opposite, plus, there is a great deal of early voting going on that helps bolster Obama's position.

I was always uneasy about Ohio eight years ago because there wasn't a great deal of polls out there showing Kerry winning in the final week of the campaign.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bush_vs_kerry_sbys.html

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
9. The way the Sec of State is acting there
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:34 PM
Oct 2012

It must not be going well at all for Mittens. So looks like they only way they have a chance there is to steal it

garthranzz

(1,330 posts)
16. They weren't
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:09 PM
Oct 2012

As historians - real historians - start looking at the last decade, it will read as one of the worst, most corrupt in American history, if not the worst. Bush outdid Nixon in that regard.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
12. You mean like they did in '04?
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:39 PM
Oct 2012

Why would I worry about that?

Oh yeah, they did it in '04. So yeah, worried.

Grateful for Hope

(39,320 posts)
14. I think not this time
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:39 PM
Oct 2012

The Obama crew is different from the Kerry crew - they have history to fall back on. I think they are as aware (and, I suspect way more aware) than we are here at DU.

I am going out on a limb to say that our party (and our President) has this covered.

flamingdem

(39,314 posts)
17. Do you think there is some kind of record being gathered that shows
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:09 PM
Oct 2012

what was statistically possible?

I wonder if they're doing that in NC and other states with those machines.

Grateful for Hope

(39,320 posts)
19. I know they do their own internal polls
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:21 PM
Oct 2012

which, imo, are more accurate than the public polls. They are not concerned about 'keeping the race close' - they are more concerned with reality.

demgrrrll

(3,590 posts)
15. I think they may want to steal Ohio but in the end I do not think they will be able to do it.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:40 PM
Oct 2012

I agree Husted has done everything except self immolation in front of a polling place to stop voting but hey, he still has three weeks.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
18. Your headline is inaccurate - I worry that the election will be stolen from the people!
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:10 PM
Oct 2012

This election ain't about Obama....it is about our Nation and its Peeps!

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
20. well...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:37 PM
Oct 2012

If Obama loses we the peeps are up shit creek without a paddle, so for me, since he's the one we want elected, it's about Obama.

nobunnyclue

(103 posts)
21. I am doubtful there will be anything but the usual
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:01 PM
Oct 2012

... couple of "irregularities" in a few isolated Ohio polling places. However look back and see what something so trivial was able to do for LBJ.

However, it is the intimidation tactics of the pro-Romney crowd here that is truly unbelievable. Other than the urban centers, you put yourself at risk of serious harassment if you tell the wrong people (and they are apparently everywhere just waiting to pounce) you support Obama.

Four years ago I was not a staunch Obama supporter (in fact, I may have voted for McCain) precisely for the opposite reason - I thought that Obama's supporters on the ground looked a little too mob-like for my comfort.

This time around, it is the Republicans running around without any attempt to hide their fascist intimidation tactics. If your not wearing their black shirts, they want to shut you up and make you go away, and not the nice "bye, see you later" way. The "let's brand you an enemy of the state socialist" way.

Obama needs to mobilize with a bigger presence on the ground in agri-rural Ohio. Bumper stickers. Yard signs. Buttons. T-shirts. These things send a message that, after the Springsteen crowd breaks up, as you head back to your voting precinct, also known as your neighborhood, you are not alone.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
22. Nobunny I've been saying the same thing - we need a rural presence
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:36 PM
Oct 2012

What you see out here is 'Obamas War on Coal' and bs like this. We're not talking real smart people, for sure.

Clinton was in Parma today (northern liberal Ohio) with Springsteen & then came down to Wintersville ( more like southern, rural Ohio) to speak at a local hs - 10m down the road. The papers have been covering his visit a lot - that's been good - these backwater papers are red to their eyeteeth.

I'm concerned about the voting machines and the connection to their campaign, especially down in Cincinnati. I read a whole piece on another site about the Bush election irregularities in that county, and in the state in general - I put that one down for stolen. Are they on top of things now? Hope so.

ailsagirl

(22,898 posts)
24. How could you ask such a thing?
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:53 PM
Oct 2012

Those dirty, sadistic, immoral, stinking, lying, cheating, hypocritical bastards steal Ohio??? My goodness, what an unfair question!!

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
26. I don't think there's a point in being worried about things I can't control
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:32 AM
Oct 2012

I have enough trust in Obama's legal team that they are keeping themselves aware of the issues - and any irregularities, intimidation, and harassment that will likely occur both in OH and nationwide.

GranholmFan

(59 posts)
27. Worried, but nothing to be done about it.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 10:40 AM
Oct 2012

Dems should have pushed for fairer elections when they got control of Congress in 2006.

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