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Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 03:00 PM Oct 2012

Rasmussen: Wisconsin O: 50% R 48%

Looks like WI is looking good for Obama. Rasmussen will always show tighter races then a pollster like NBC/Marist.

This poll was done Oct 18th.

One aside....Rasmussen has opposite info on the early voting:

Ninety-seven percent (97%) of likely Wisconsin voters say they are certain to vote, and the president leads 50% to 48% among this group.

Wisconsin allows early voting, and among those who have already voted, it’s Romney 54%, Obama 43%. Of those who have yet to vote, 90% say they’ve already decided whom they will support. Obama leads 50% to 49% among these voters.

I would say Rasmussen is pretty wrong on this. So, WI is probably better then plus 2 for Obama.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/wisconsin/election_2012_wisconsin_president

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Rasmussen: Wisconsin O: 50% R 48% (Original Post) Jennicut Oct 2012 OP
That's ok, Marquette Law School had it +1 earlier in the week. WI_DEM Oct 2012 #1
Ras early voting proportions are altered by their proR demographics Shivering Jemmy Oct 2012 #2
Rasmussen weighs their averages for party ID. aaaaaa5a Oct 2012 #3
I'm guessing O+3 on election day Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Mrspeeker Oct 2012 #5
Wow what a well reasoned argument backed by factual data and analysis StrongBad Oct 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Mrspeeker Oct 2012 #7
Sigh. StrongBad Oct 2012 #9
+101 Hutzpa Oct 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Mrspeeker Oct 2012 #14
I'm sorry to see you go... StrongBad Oct 2012 #15
You cannot make any basis to any lead Romney has there without polling evidence. Jennicut Oct 2012 #11
Thank you for doing what I didn't have the patience to. StrongBad Oct 2012 #13
Your welcome! Jennicut Oct 2012 #16
That figure is inaccurate Hutzpa Oct 2012 #8
I believe Wisconsin went for Gore, Kerry, and Obama milestogo Oct 2012 #17

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
3. Rasmussen weighs their averages for party ID.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 03:10 PM
Oct 2012

They do this regardless of the party ID of their respondents. Therefore how did they tally the early vote?


If the early vote had a strong Dem lean did they keep it? Or did they weigh it to match their overall sample?


I think that could explain the difference.


Because lets be honest, if Obama is losing the early vote b 9%, how could he be up by 2 overall? That makes no sense.

Here are the numbers from Wisconsin over the last 24 hours

O+1 Marquette
O+2 Rasmussen
O+5 YouGov
O+6 NBC

Average 3.5
That is outside the margin of error.

Obama is winning.

Wisconsin+Ohio+ Nevada OR Iowa=270



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StrongBad

(2,100 posts)
6. Wow what a well reasoned argument backed by factual data and analysis
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 03:52 PM
Oct 2012

Oh wait. Your conclusion is based on the fact that you "know people in WI" .

Nice try.

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StrongBad

(2,100 posts)
9. Sigh.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 04:12 PM
Oct 2012

The fact that you can't grasp the inherent logical fallacy in the way you're reaching your conclusions proves that I would be wasting my time trying to inform you. You just don't get it.

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StrongBad

(2,100 posts)
15. I'm sorry to see you go...
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 05:35 PM
Oct 2012

...but I think you'll be dismayed when you find that the principles of logic and statistics are the same no matter what website you join.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
11. You cannot make any basis to any lead Romney has there without polling evidence.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 04:31 PM
Oct 2012

Sorry. When even Rasmussen has Obama with a lead there I am inclined to put WI in Obama's column.
Many states have conservative areas and liberal areas in them. Most of the time, Dems win these types of battlegrounds in the cities. You might know tons of conservatives there but it does not mean Romney will win there. Voting is about turnout in certain areas. Even Chuck Todd of all people knows this and shows how this works on election nights. It all depends on where the people you know live and what kind of areas of the state those are.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
8. That figure is inaccurate
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 04:12 PM
Oct 2012

those early voting figures are not correct. After Rachel showing 56% Obama to 44% Romney not possible to over turn that gap.

I call this NBC/Marist poll bullshit and while I'm at it, FUCK you CHUCK TOAD.

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