2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOctober Surprise? Iran has agreed to nuclear talks
Boom!
First time it's happened.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/21/world/iran-said-ready-to-talk-to-us-about-nuclear-program.html?hp
In light Monday's debate, this great news for the world is horrible news for someone else.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)I got the NY Times alert just five minutes ago.
JackN415
(924 posts)Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)in the polls, people are reminded of the contrast between the bad old days and this admin's effective subtlety.
Edit: Thinking to Monday, we may also have to thank Issa for overreaching, the GOP way. That's some material for the President.
Inuca
(8,945 posts)they do not want to start negotiations until AFTER the election, because they want to know which president they will deal with.
Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)has put this in place with its diplomacy. A huge reminder of its success in this field.
Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)This can have a real impact.
doc03
(35,349 posts)JackN415
(924 posts)Rethugs could have said that...
On the other hand, it can also mean Obama is more effective in foreign affairs. Especially if this is likely to be lauded by EU and other Western democracies.
It was Iran who overplayed the hostage crisis that damaged Carter's presidency. But there was some decency in US politics as even Reagan admin knew it better to let Carter be the figurehead receive the released hostages.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Romney will likely start WW3 if elected.
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)"Ahmadinejad's politicizing this issue!"
Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)I think we're going to see flustered, stuttering Romney again.
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)Dash87
(3,220 posts)tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)JackN415
(924 posts)Jim__
(14,077 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)good news for POTUS
courseofhistory
(801 posts)We can't change administrations in the midst of this breakthrough! Romney would fail miserably if he were to "talk" and would probably wind up going to war!
JiminyJominy
(340 posts)starting to lose faith in the American People. how on earth could they even be weighing Obama V Romney. its a no brainer.
I'm especially disappointed in the people of states like Ohio. One man single handidly put it all on the line to save your state while the other didn't care.
i hope this Iran news makes a difference.
lamp_shade
(14,836 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)I wonder what Romney will say if he is asked if he will negotiate, should he win.
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)or the etch-a-sketch was shaken a bit too hard.
still_one
(92,240 posts)MSM spewing their propaganda now
and idiots in this country absorbing it
Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)And looked as reckless as a pair of goons hoping for Bush carry-overs to return to spearhead foreign policy might.
People forget, but when there're a huge scars left behind, it's never far from the surface. Especially with the topic of Monday's debate.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,415 posts)Wait, what?????
DCBob
(24,689 posts)which would have, no doubt, led to disasterous results.
barnabas63
(1,214 posts)What about us bombing Iran?? The right-wingers will be so disappointed if we run out of wars! I guess we'll have to look for war somewhere else.
Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)People are flighty, but many will see it the right way when you remind them.
Wildcat1955
(69 posts)I'm ecstatic, but I wonder if the politics might not cut both ways. For the Dems, the strategy employed has finally got Iran to nuclear talks. But, can't the Repubs argue that the prospects of dealing with a Romney administration was the principal reason? Or, they could merely say, "here we go again", more stalling by the Iranian government. I think Independents will welcome the news with open arms. In any case, I think it's great news!!!
Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)The GOP look like a mess with Romney's debate flap & Issa's breach. For Obama to press home is that we've now had a CIA report backing up Susan Rice, we've had Iran agree to discuss - for the first time in history - their nuclear program, bin Laden is dead, Iraq is over - despite GOP flailing - and Afghanistan is winding down, again, despite the GOP wanting more dead soldiers and an indefinite controlling presence. The wars, the dead Americans and the contribution these awful situations made to the economic crisis.
If there's one thing people aren't keen to turn back to, it's Bush foreign policy.
primaryblue
(37 posts)Let's face it. The ONLY issue Romney and Lyan have is the economy, and even that has faded somewhat with unemployment coming down. Anything that distracts from that core issues as far as the media conversation is concerned is a net win for Obama.
Lucy Goosey
(2,940 posts)...and I agree with what you're saying here.