Resolved! Susan Surandon responsible for Hillary's Iraq war vote

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

I feel bad now for piling on Hillary, when all she's been doing is providing cover for Susan.

[beam me up scottie]

1. Perfect!!!

[NWCorona]

2. The Susan outrage has been something to behold

[salinsky]

29. It has been something ...

... but, nothing compares to the spectacle of the Birdiegasm.

[NWCorona]

31. Right!

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

3. Is blaming Susan Sarandon for everything wrong the new "Thanks Obama" meme?

[beam me up scottie]

19. Yes it is, just look at this thread! #thankssusan

[R B Garr]

4. She bought the Ralph Nader kool-aid, so that pretty much wipes out

her credibility.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

8. Hillary bought BUSH/CHENEY Kool-Aid! Surandon 10x more cred than Clinton

[R B Garr]

9. Explain how Bush is exactly like Gore.

That's what Ralph Nader told us in 2000.

[revbones]

12. So, one single action in the past defines a person? Interesting.

Based on that premise since it is what you are promoting, I suppose you will now publicly post that

1. David Brock is an admitted liar and should not have any credibility
2. Hillary has publicly lied, and should not have any credibilty
3. Hillary was for TPP before she was tepidly against it, so you will admit she is a proponent of TPP.
4. Hillary lobbied for the Crime bill and Welfare Reform Act. So she is anti-POC
5. Hillary was very much pro-DOMA and only pro gay marriage as of 2013 - so you will now admit she is anti-LGBT.

[R B Garr]

13. Anti-Hillary spam is not the answer to everything.

You obviously think it is because this is all you do. I wouldn't believe anything you extrapolate and twist. There's a word for that, hmmm.

Explain how Bush is exactly like Gore. Ralph Nader told us that in 2000.

[revbones]

14. Pointing out other situations that fall within your own logic are not spam

And labeling such as "spam" or attempting to discredit it is juvenile.

It's your own logic. Either you believe it to be true or you don't. Which is it?

[R B Garr]

17. lol, that is your logic you typed. Not mine. Explain how Bush is the same

as Gore. Susan supported Nader, and that was Nader's platform

[revbones]

21. So wrong it's adorable.

You said that her action of support for Nader, wiped out her credibility. By that logic, you should either admit that

1. You were wrong and it does not

or

2. You were right and believe all those things I listed.


Which is it?

[R B Garr]

22. Yeah. Credibility. Explain how Bush is the same as Gore.

That was Nader's platform as a 3rd party candidate. Vote for Nader because the other two are the same. If she believed that, it's no wonder she is hinting at Trump being a viable alternative to a REAL Democrat.

Explain how Gore and Bush are the same.

[revbones]

23. So which is it?

She has no credibility and you also beleive those other statements

Or

You were just wrong and will restract your initial statement.


I'm waiting...

[R B Garr]

25. Explain how Bush is the same as Gore. The subject of this thread

is Susan Sarandon. I'm not the subject of this thread, so that makes your hobbled together anti-Hillary spam that you order me to address completely irrelevant.

Explain how Bush is the same as Gore. That is what Nader's platform was.

[Armstead]

18. You ignore his point. Sarandon is fighting for a Democratic primary candidate

So is she as responsible for what she did 16 years ago, while you let Clinton off the hook for her bad decisions like Welfare Reform.....and her more recent bad decisions like Iraq War vote?

[R B Garr]

20. lol, how simplistic and self-serving. Nader was a 3rd party candidate.

Bernie is only a Democrat for several months. Anti-Hillary spam has nothing to do with those two facts.

Explain how Bush and Gore are the same. That was Nader's platform.

[revbones]

24. The five D's of dodgeball

Dodge
Duck
Dip
Dive
and Dodge...

[R B Garr]

26. This thread is about Susan Sarandon. Your anti-Hillary spam is not the subject,

nor am I the subject.

Explain how Bush is the same as Gore. That was Nader's platform.

[Phlem]

34. "This thread is about Susan Sarandon."

"Explain how Bush is the same as Gore. That was Nader's platform."

I thought this thread was about Susan Sarandon?

Doh!

[DisgustipatedinCA]

37. Remove the dishonest word "exactly" and we can talk. Remain a propagandist, and we cannot.

[R B Garr]

38. You are not the arbiter of all that is honest and good in the world. People have

their own values and judgments and they are just as valid as yours.

That's why this phony "revolution" talk is so meaningless. You can make up whatever you want about it and then call people "liars" if they don't conform to your imagination.

Ugh.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

40. No, but I will be one of the arbiters of what was actually said, and what was not.

If you can manage honesty, we can talk. And if you can't, we will not.

[R B Garr]

41. You are trying to make yourself superior to others and call them liars based on

what you interpret from your own imaginary "revolution" ideas. Your ideals are not "honesty". They are just your personal beliefs. We all have them; yours are no better than anyone else's.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

42. No. I told you I was willing to have an honest discussion, and asked if you were. You are not.

That's all, folks.

[R B Garr]

43. Yeah, not interested in you dictating to me how your ideals and better than

mine. That is not "honesty".

[DisgustipatedinCA]

44. Fair enough. The indent tells the story it needs to tell, of baseless accusations being confronted

and stopped.

[R B Garr]

45. Yes, and Sarandon saying that Trump would be a viable alternative to Bernie

for the sake of the "revolution" shows how people who spoke up about the overlap of Bernie and Trump supporters have been maligned when they were silenced for stating that observation.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

46. Sorry, but I think we just established that you're not willing to set honest ground rules

for discussion.

Ergo, I won't be discussing anything with you. Honesty is the price one needs to pay to converse with me.

[R B Garr]

47. Your world views are not "honesty". The fact that you keep insisting only you dictate

what is "honest" shows that you have no intention of discussing anything after all. LOL, that much is obvious.

Goodbye.

[DanTex]

5. To the extent that she helped Nader, she shares responsibility for W.

And now she's trying to help Trump defeat Hillary.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

6. Ah! The ole you are either with us or against us meme...

Only a sith deals in absolutes...

Hillary has turned off voters herself... When you point fingers at voters three fingers are pointing back at yourself.

[DanTex]

11. "You can't be neutral on a moving train." --Howard Zinn.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

10. These responses are fucking awesome!!!

BWAAAAHHHAHAHAHA!!!!

[revbones]

15. Is Trump in the Democratic primary now? Wow.

I completely missed that.

[DanTex]

16. No, he's the likely Republican nominee. And Bernie or Busters like Sarandon are trying to ensure

that he becomes president. Apparently throwing one election to the GOP isn't enough for them.

[Phlem]

35. Right because the judge that called it for Bush had nothing to do with it.

And the Bush theft machine was simple inoperable that day, huh. It was all Nader and Susan Sarandon that gave us Bush.

What a fucking joke.

[DanTex]

36. The judge too. There's responsibility go around. Still, without Nader, there's no W.

[robbedvoter]

7. No Susan/Nader, no W. No W, no Iraq war - so you're not wrong

PNAC has been pressuring Clinton for years to go in Iraq and he said no. Gore would have continued that. But Nader/Susan decided there was no difference, so...

[alcibiades_mystery]

27. The missing name for these Bernie or Bust jackasses is, of course, Gore

I'm convinced there's no 9/11 with Gore, much less Iraq.

But Nader said they were Tweedledee and Tweedledumb, and Nader is an honorable man.

"Heighten the contradictions! Bring it to a head! We will get our Revolution one way or t'other!"

Idiots.

[JoePhilly]

30. + 1

[emulatorloo]

33. Agreed on no 9/11 with Gore. Gore listened to Richard Clarke etc as VP

Condi and W marginalized Richard Clarke and the other terrorism experts.

[JoePhilly]

28. She's become another fool who thinks we should let the GOP win ...

... so they can completely destroy the country ... because only then will the people rise up and create a new Utopia.

Except that "Utopia" will more likely be a Christo-fascist theocracy.

[Phlem]

49. Oh the irony.

[99th_Monkey]

32. This is stupid. Nader ran as 3rd party

Sanders is running in the Democratic PRIMARY.

YUUUGE difference, end of story.

[Phlem]

48. Yea but you didn't see Susan Sarandon holding

Hillary by gun point forcing her to vote for the Iraq war!

[Phlem]

39. That seems to be it! Susan Sarandon and Nader brought us the Iraq war!