2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy do I smell a rat w/ so many polls right now?
After the first debate polls showed Romney closing the gap w the President
because of his strong performance in that debate but now with Obama's over-
whelming win in his second debate I have yet to see a solid bump in the polls
for the President. Something just doesn't add up.
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talk me down please ..... I feel we are in for some really bad news.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)I WILL KICK BOTANY ASS
madaboutharry
(40,221 posts)Here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021595104
and here:
Team Obama: We're winning Ohio among early voters....
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/262941-team-obama-were-winning-ohio-among-early-voters
MFM008
(19,820 posts)national polls are crap but the state polls are holding, even if just by a couple. Ill take an electoral win.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)wisteria
(19,581 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)the BS about pulling out of NC because they were winning. They haven't pulled out and have no intention of doing so but the meme kept the GOP peanut gallery excited. I think it's also why Drudge started the "Allred has an October surprise" rumor, to keep the flying monkeys enthused.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)So they pull it harder.
Blue Owl
(50,507 posts)Hart Intercivic is ready to take care of the details...
questionseverything
(9,660 posts)Neon2012
(94 posts)I take no consolation in any of the "facts" posted on this site because this site is biased to the left. I also don't believe anything coming from the biased-to-the-right corporate media. Why can't we in the public just get some fucking truth? From somewhere. Anywhere. I listen to NPR everyday and they seem to be pro-Romney as well. I want some unbiased objective truth. But I'm definitely worried right now that Romney may actually win this.
MajPayne2
(202 posts)RC
(25,592 posts)The BBC is still more or less objective the last I heard, also. Several other countries have reasonable unbiased, English language news casts.
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)And the laughingstock of the political world.
ChiTownChavista
(55 posts)I wish you wouldn't pretend that he is.
You can feel free to call him a dangerous lying misogynist sack o' crap, though.
LibertyBell7
(22 posts)According to the political scientist / blogger Jonathan Bernstein "...what we should do with every polling number. Ignore it, and look at the polling averages and the good poll-based predictions." (http://plainblogaboutpolitics.blogspot.com/2012/10/yes-gallup-is-probably-goofy-so-what.html).
I stumbled on him as a reference from HuffPost's Jason Linkins earlier. Yes, Gallup is an outlier, with very questionable results historically favoring Corporazi candidates. However, this race is going to be very, very close (so the averages tell us).
A great "averager" is Nate Silver. It's worthwhile, if the poll itch must be scratched, to bookmark his 538 section of the NYT site (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/).
Then "ignore it."
Polls are not magical incantations; they hold no special power other than to depress voter turnout if they do not say reassuring things.
The thing that does have magical power? GOTV. Get. Out. The. Vote. Everbody must vote, and stay in the rain, wait out the long lines, whatever the Corporazis throw at us. They are trying to steal our democracy, and we must stop them by exercising the very thing they want to steal from us.
VOTE (and do everything in your power to ensure every anti-Corporazi votes, if it means volunteer phone banking, knocking on doors, car pooling to the polls, etc.).
ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)turnout more like 2010's than 2008's, If available, check out each poll's percentages for REGISTERED voters as well as for LIKELY VOTERS. You well may see results with biased likely voter models backed out favor the President decisively.
ChiTownChavista
(55 posts)and the traditional polling methods are more and more suspect by the day. Concentrate on GOTV.
johnlucas
(1,250 posts)Never mind what any of these polls say.
Read my thread made on October 10th to calm your nerves.
ELECTION SPOILER: Obama wins in a LANDSLIDE
Too many here are letting the big media sway them.
Big media is invested in keeping you watching until the election is over for the ratings.
Can't let you know that this race has never been close & will never be close or you won't watch.
This goes for the ones "on our side" as well as the ones "not on our side".
Read my reasoning in that thread in the opening post & replies to other poster to understand why I'm so confident in my prediction.
Romney is Roadkill come November 6th.
Don't let nobody fool you.
John Lucas
IrishSean723
(26 posts)a fairly likeable incumbent. Romney is a fairly unlikeable challenger. Those in the media stand to gain financially if there is a really close race. There. Mystery solved.
Tribetime
(4,710 posts)brooklynite
(94,738 posts)...if you're going to obsess about every new poll change between now and election day, you'll have a nervous breakdown by Election Day.
Seriously, there isn't a group voters that are so flexible they continually change their mind with every new development. Obama's poor performance allowed Romney to appear competent, which flipped a share of undecided or (probably) weak Republican votes into his corner. Some (but not most) might have dropped back to uncertain after the next two debates, but this was always going to be a close election, and Obama is still in the lease in most States.