3/29: NEW PPP poll--> Hillary up 18% nationwide #FeeltheMath

[riversedge]

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/polls/

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NaphiSoc ‏@NaphiSoc 16h16 hours ago

PPP just out
#HillaryClinton up 18% nationwide
84% of her supporters firm in choice to 61% for Sanders


#FeelTheMath

[w4rma]

1. Low information voters who don't know anyone else exists in the race would be "firmly committed". nt

[BainsBane]

3. It's that kind of contemptuous attitude

that has hurt Sanders. Sanders supporters are not better informed. There is absolutely no evidence to support your sense of superiority. All it does is reveal values diametrically opposed to equality. I have seen that same attitude from the start of the primaries, even before. That is how I have known that the goal is not to lessen inequality but instead to advance the interests of a few over the Democratic base they hold in such contempt. That is among the first things that turned me off Sanders. You can congratulate yourselves for communicating that message perfectly clearly to American voters.

[w4rma]

5. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's been true in every state that Clinton's name recognition and

her husband's coattails are what is keeping her in the race. The better Sanders is known, the better he does. The better Clinton is known, the worse she does.

[riversedge]

8. Hillary is a strong intellegent woman: Yet you demean her by 'her husbands coattails" shame on you

[shawn703]

37. She wouldn't be where she is now if it wasn't for her husband

Being the spouse of a former and popular president who can call in a lot of favors within the Democratic Party? If Bill wasn't President from 1993-2000, nobody would be talking about Hillary today.

[BainsBane]

9. How about providing some evidence for that?

It's not like Sanders message is particularly complex. He's repeated it ad nauseum. I dare say there are few people in this country who couldn't recite it by now.

I've done a lot of get out the vote activities and made phone calls to multiple states, and I have yet to encounter one person who doesn't know who Bernie Sanders is. On the other hand, I have yet to encounter a high-profile Sanders supporter on this site who has bothered to inform themselves about Clinton's policy positions. In fact, many pointedly refuse to look at her issues page. Instead, they habitually make up crap they project onto her.

Clinton is exponentially more qualified than Sanders. For you to attribute her success to her "husband's coat tails" is more of the gender-based condescension that is typical in this election. Considering her opponent has only one major legislative accomplishment in 25 years in federal office, the dismissal of her qualifications is absurd. It's not everyone who can boast the single lowest rating in bipartisanship of anyone in the Senate. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357/report-card/2015
But your claim is Americans voters are just too stupid to know how much better he is than Clinton.

[w4rma]

12. I'd rather have someone with good judgement than a puffed up resume. (nt)

[riversedge]

13. You still have no evidence--just a sexist comment

[w4rma]

15. Whatever. Quit trying to pretend that every criticism against Hillary is "sexist". (nt)

[riversedge]

16. Saying that "husband's coattails are what is keeping her in the race" is about as Sexist you get!!

[Armstead]

38. We will never know how she would have fared without Bill. However....

one does have to wonder whether she would be in this annointed position without the name recognition of a larger than life husband and president.

Would she be considered the bestpresidential candidate if she had followed the path of most successful politicians -- including successful woman politicians -- of climbing the ladder and progressing through elected offices and actually putting in the time and paying dues along the way. Making their own names strictly on their own merits.


If you look at in those terms, I think women like Amy Klobeshar (spelling?), Dianne Feinstein, Jan Schiakovsky, Barbara Boxer and many, many other women are much more qualified.

[w4rma]

43. And Elizabeth Warren, *definitely* is better qualified than Hillary Clinton for this office.

I would vote for Elizabeth Warren for any political office that she decided to run for.

[Armstead]

44. I didn't mention her because she has not been in politics all that long, but I agree

[w4rma]

46. Elizabeth Warren has a long and distinguished resume. And she did things that I like.

She didn't do things like sit on Walmart's board. A position greased by her husband's position as governor, I'll add.

[Armstead]

47. I totally agree.

She also did it without a marital brand name

[BainsBane]

18. Every criticism isn't

"husband's coattails" is. It also says far more about you than Hillary Clinton.

In just a few sentences in this thread you've made your values perfectly clear.

[riversedge]

40. Yes. it HAS!!

[w4rma]

45. If Bill and Hillary's roles were reversed and Hillary had Bill's charisma and had been President

Then I'd use the exact same argument against Bill that he was riding his wife's coattails. If you think that the use of the word "husband" automatically means "sexism", then you're probably radicalized.

[BainsBane]

17. So no evidence

What a surprise. You can't even bother to try to provide evidence for your claims. That might take a few minutes of actual work and ultimately confronting the realization that you have simply invented nonsense to try to justify your imperious worldview and entirely unjustified sense of superiority.

Your kind of attitude deserves to go down in flames. It is entirely incongruous with a party or movement that is meant to promote equal opportunity and equal rights.

[Dem2]

33. And there's the misogyny

[frustrated_lefty]

23. *shrug*

[riversedge]

41. But NEW WPOSTpoll says they Hillary can get things done-break the gridlock in DC--Bests Sanders!!

She is a Progressive who gets things done!












Hillary Clinton, Enemy of the Status Quo

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/03/hillary-clinton-enemy-status-quo

—By Kevin Drum
| Thu Mar. 31, 2016 10:44 AM EDT

The headline news from today's Washington Post poll is the astonishing unpopularity of Donald Trump. His net favorable rating is -37 percent: 30 percent like him and 67 percent don't. The other candidates have net negative ratings too, but nothing close to this.

On another subject, 69 percent of respondents claim to believe that the "current political system" is dysfunctional. I don't know whether to take that seriously, or just as a generalized gripe about politics. What's interesting, though, is who would do the most to address this. Trump is the top choice, unsurprisingly, but Hillary Clinton is close behind—which is a bit surprising. It certainly suggests, along with other evidence in this poll, that support for Hillary isn't just strong, but roughly as enthusiastic as it is for anyone else.

[JoePhilly]

26. Well said ... their attitude speaks volumes and in ways they apparently ...

... lack the self-awareness to comprehend.

My guess is that the air is very very thin way up on the high horse they ride.

[Dem2]

31. That's just wrong

You're essentially calling Hillary voters Republicans. When people get angry they post stupid things.

[BainsBane]

2. I've seen other polls showing that Clinton supporters

are both more committed and more enthusiastic, which goes against the MSM meme.

From the PPP summary of their poll:

On the Democratic side Hillary Clinton continues to have a resounding lead with 54% to 36% for Bernie Sanders. Clinton leads within every gender, race, and age group except younger voters and her supporters are also more committed- 84% say they will definitely vote for her compared to 61% who say the same for Sanders.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/03/trump-most-acceptable-candidate-to-gop-clinton-leads-comfortably.html#more

[riversedge]

6. Yes. That is an important segment of the poll

[oasis]

4. I'm with her.

[riversedge]

7. "You have to have the right number of delegates to get the nomination" #HillaryClinton does indeed #

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A feel good tweet--for all the enjoy.

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NaphiSoc ‏@NaphiSoc 6h6 hours ago

"You have to have the right number of delegates to get the nomination"
#HillaryClinton does indeed #FeelTheMath



https://twitter.com/NaphiSoc/status/715348402507153408
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#FeeltheMath

[fun n serious]

10. Thank you! nt

[oasis]

11. Fantabulous!

[Kentonio]

14. A PPP poll? Seriously?

[BainsBane]

19. What's wrong with PPP?

What do you prefer? One of those internet polls showing Bernie winning in 50 states?

[Kentonio]

20. Apart from the fact they've been horrifically wrong pretty much the entire primary?

Nothing really.

[BainsBane]

21. Silver rates them as a B-

http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/

That does not qualify as "horrifically wrong." But if you have evidence to back up your claims, but all means, provide it.

I think what you really meant to say is: "Don't post polls that bum me out. I'm still pretending Bernie can win."

[Kentonio]

27. That would be Silver who has also been horrifically wrong for much of the primary?

[Renew Deal]

29. Which states did he get wrong?

Other than Michigan which was the biggest upset in 30 years?

[Kentonio]

30. He's pretty much consistently under called Bernies victories

Sometimes by quite embarrassingly huge margins. Check his predictions for the last round of contests if you don't believe me.

[Godhumor]

34. Considering his model predicts chance of victory and not final margin of victory

He has done remarkably well.

[Kentonio]

36. Well it's your industry, so I'll bow to your superior knowledge.

PPP still suck though.

[Godhumor]

39. Ha! PPP has a house bias for Clinton, yes n/t

[synergie]

24. The internet ones reward "enthusiastic participation", and deliver more pleasant results :-)

[Gothmog]

22. Thanks for posting

[LexVegas]

25. Cue the thinly veiled "low information" minority voter shit. nt

[Renew Deal]

28. I first read the hash tag as feel the meth

[auntpurl]

32. Great numbers, and I especially like the "firmly committed" bit. nt

[Dem2]

35. Oh, this isn't new

It was put up on Pollster a couple of days ago.

[riversedge]

42. I posted it 3/30 yesterday. It was published 3/29 per the link in OP.