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Alan Grayson

(485 posts)
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 10:17 PM Oct 2012

"Congressman Joe the Plumber"? OMG.

Do you remember “Joe the Plumber”? If not, you’re better off. But let me remind you – because “Joe the Plumber” might be elected to Congress in two weeks.

“Joe the Plumber” is not named Joe, and he’s not a plumber.

His name is Samuel Wurzelbacher. In 2008, he claimed that he was a plumber, working for A.W. Newell Corp. in Ohio. But in Ohio, plumbers are licensed, and Joe didn’t have a license. So he’s not a plumber. As Gov. Rick Perry might say, “Oops.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27207215/ns/politics-the_debates/t/plumber-says-he-has-no-plumbing-license/#.UISR5mlASjM

“Joe the Plumber” made about $40,000 not doing his not-plumbing. In his Walter Mitty imagination, though, he somehow was going to buy Newell Corp. How could he do that? Who knows?

Not-yet-President Obama came to “Joe the Plumber’s” town in 2008. At an Obama campaign event, “Joe” took that magical mental leap from personal failure to personal success, and told/lied/BS’ed Obama that “Joe” was “getting ready to buy a company that makes $250,000 to $280,000 a year – your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?”

“Joe the Plumber” was “getting ready” to buy that company in much the same way as Kim Kardashian is “getting ready” to end the Middle East conflict. It could happen. But I doubt it.

Anyway, Candidate Obama gave “Joe the Plumber” a substantive analysis of how “Joe’s” non-purchase of “Joe’s” non-plumbing business would affect “Joe’s” non-income and “Joe’s” non-taxes. Obama then added that Obama’s tax plan was necessary in order to reduce taxes on the middle class, which would add customers to “Joe’s” non-business: “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s going to be good for everybody. If you’ve got a plumbing business, you’re going to be better off . . . if you’ve got a whole bunch of customers who can afford to hire you. Right now, everybody’s so pinched that business is bad for everybody. I think that if you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

You may recall the shock and horror which the right-wing noise machine manufactured over that statement. The same shock and horror that the right-wing noise machine manufactured over the President’s more recent statement that “if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own.” History repeats itself – first as tragedy, and second as farce. (To quote someone else who, by coincidence, also wrote about spreading the wealth.)

Back the first time, in 2008, “Joe the Plumber” jumped, with both feet, into the ensuing distortion-fest. He said that the President’s answer would put us “one step closer to socialism.” He said that the answer showed that our first African-American President could “tap dance . . .almost as good as Sammy Davis, Jr.” He said that he could never support Obama, because of “questions” about “Obama’s loyalty to our country.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Joe_Plumber_questions_Obamas_loyalty_to_1102.html

For Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, a star was born.

“Joe the Plumber” gave up his non-plumbing career, and became a “motivational speaker.” His talk consists of witty observations like asking why Senator Chris Dodd hasn’t been “strung up” yet.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/26/joe-the-plumber-suggests_n_221631.html

Now he is running for Congress in Ohio, against Rep. Marcy Kaptur. Here are some of “Joe the Plumber’s” more recent bon mots:

(1) “Joe” says that both the Holocaust and the Armenian Genocide were caused by gun control.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/19/joe-the-plumber-gun-control-holocaust_n_1609652.html

(2) “Joe” says that the way to stem illegal immigration is “going to Mexico, and start shooting.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/14/joe-the-plumber-calls-to-start-shooting-immigrants-at-the-border/

(3) “Joe” says that he would not let anyone who is “[actually homosexual]” near his children.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/08/joe-the-plumber-cnn-ohio-congress_n_1331247.html

Samuel Wurzelbacher, a/k/a “Joe the Plumber,” should not be in Congress. And we have a good chance to get defeat him, on Nov. 6. Please click here, and support “Joe’s” opponent Marcy Kaptur. Help avoid the stain of “Joe the Plumber” in Congress.
https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/kapturgrayson

Courage,

Alan Grayson

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"Congressman Joe the Plumber"? OMG. (Original Post) Alan Grayson Oct 2012 OP
What are "Joe's" numbers like against Marcy's? no_hypocrisy Oct 2012 #1
hope he doesnt have a chance in hell anyone know? lunasun Oct 2012 #4
It is a solidly blue district, he does not stand a chance Bjorn Against Oct 2012 #9
The district Firebirds01 Oct 2012 #22
I can't find any numbers, it is likely that no one is polling it as they already know the outcome Bjorn Against Oct 2012 #7
This is my district gleannfia Oct 2012 #11
Thank you for that! ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #19
ugh jonpaulprime Oct 2012 #2
AAARRRGGGGHHHH! rgbecker Oct 2012 #3
Last I heard he was not doing very well Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #5
Maybe he is actually unstopping a toilet somewhere because Marie Marie Oct 2012 #6
Rofl Cha Oct 2012 #16
Know how you know he's a winner? LP2K12 Oct 2012 #8
I just tweeted joe and my followers this message: underthematrix Oct 2012 #10
Love it! gleannfia Oct 2012 #12
He does not stand a chance ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #13
If you really want to waste your money, send it to Marcy... brooklynite Oct 2012 #14
Hahaha! agentS Oct 2012 #15
thanks for helping Grayson! Divine Discontent Oct 2012 #18
Joe the Plumber thinks Saturday Night Live is "the mainstream media." No seriously. His own words: Shampoobra Oct 2012 #17
There is no way in hell ellie Oct 2012 #20
This was Kucinich country! In part, anyway. Coyotl Oct 2012 #21
Methinks Alan's crying wolf. Arkana Oct 2012 #23
Marcy is going to smear him with the force of a thousand juggernauts. HughBeaumont Oct 2012 #24
 

Firebirds01

(576 posts)
22. The district
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 10:16 AM
Oct 2012

is a combination of Kapturs and Kucinich's district. Its as blue as the pacific ocean. No worries.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
7. I can't find any numbers, it is likely that no one is polling it as they already know the outcome
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 10:30 PM
Oct 2012

That is a solid blue district, "Joe" does not have a chance in hell so most polling agencies would not waste their resources polling it.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
6. Maybe he is actually unstopping a toilet somewhere because
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 10:28 PM
Oct 2012

didn't he say that he didn't have time to debate Marcy Kaptur? I could see where that might take precedence.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
10. I just tweeted joe and my followers this message:
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 10:37 PM
Oct 2012

"@joe4congress12 this nice but unread, uneducated & uninformed joe wants a $175,000 a yr gov't check 4 a position 4 which he is not qualified"

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
13. He does not stand a chance
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 11:02 PM
Oct 2012

Love ya, Alan....but this is floating a false narrative. Joe the Dumber is going down big.

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
14. If you really want to waste your money, send it to Marcy...
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 11:42 PM
Oct 2012

Every rating group calls this a SAFE DEMOCRATIC district. "Joe" has been the Republican candidate for months, and has shown no traction.

There are better races in which you can put your money.

agentS

(1,325 posts)
15. Hahaha!
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 11:48 PM
Oct 2012

Oh that not-plumber, Not-Joe, is gonna get flushed in November. Awesome.

Good luck in Orlando, Mr. Grayson! I've donated already and wish you all the luck I can muster! I hope you get back in!

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
18. thanks for helping Grayson!
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 02:31 AM
Oct 2012

shame he lost that other seat to the hyper-religious Webster who thinks women should submit to their partners, and other douchebaggery. He should win solidly in the newly formed district. Val Demings is running against Webster, and although she's a strong candidate, she's just not their cup o TEA if you follow. She should be in congress one day if not this time, maybe in a cycle or two!


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Shampoobra

(423 posts)
17. Joe the Plumber thinks Saturday Night Live is "the mainstream media." No seriously. His own words:
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 02:17 AM
Oct 2012
"No matter; the mainstream media has become a propaganda machine. Their strategy is to create a fictional narrative and exploit it to identify, isolate, and destroy their target; it’s right out of the Saul Alinsky handbook. Case in point: Sarah Palin never said she could see Russia from her backyard– that was a Saturday Night Live skit. Same with attributing 'strategery' to George W. Bush – that was Will Ferrell."

http://www.joeforcongress2012.org/i_can_see_russia_from_my_backyard

And -- speaking of stupid things this man likes to say -- here's one where he claims he has had "friends" who couldn't be trusted to be alone with his children:

"You know, God is pretty explicit in what we're supposed to do -- what man and woman are for. Now, at the same time, we're supposed to love everybody and accept people, and preach against the sins. I've had some friends that are actually homosexual. And, I mean, they know where I stand, and they know that I wouldn't have them anywhere near my children. But at the same time, they're people, and they're going to do their thing."

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2009/mayweb-only/118-13.0.html

Translation: You are my friend. You're a sinner, but God loves sinners; it's the sin He hates, not the sinner. Still ... you and I both know the kind of dark shit you're probably going to try out on my kids if I ever leave you alone with them. You can't help it; it's your 'thing.' So ... stay away from my kids, friend.

ellie

(6,929 posts)
20. There is no way in hell
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 09:44 AM
Oct 2012

Marcy Kaptur is going to lose. I used to live in her district and she routinely wins by margins of 76% to 24%. I can't believe Joe, or whatever his name is, is doing well at.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
21. This was Kucinich country! In part, anyway.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 10:12 AM
Oct 2012

On March 30, 2012 the National Journal released a list of the top ten most contorted congressional districts, as a result of redistricting. [4] The 9th district was on the list.[4]

The new district is composed of the following percentages of voters of the old congressional districts.[12][13]

47 percent from the 9th congressional district
40 percent from the 10th congressional district
13 percent from the 13th congressional district




... in Ohio’s 9th Congressional district, where Rep. Marcy Kaptur will face Samuel “Joe the Plumber” Wurzelbacher.

Rep. Kaptur is a long time Congressional representative from northeast Ohio, first elected to Congress in 1982. She is the most senior member of Ohio’s Congressional delegation and is among the longest-serving women in Congress. Because Ohio lost population between the 2000 and 2010 censuses, the state lost two congressional districts, and the Republican-controlled state legislature drew a new map unfavorable to Democrats. Thus, Reps. Kaptur and Dennis Kucinich, a long-time Cleveland incumbent and ally of Kaptur’s in Washington, found themselves competing against one another for the same seat in the newly-drawn 9th district. Rep. Kaptur won the hard-fought primary ...



HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
24. Marcy is going to smear him with the force of a thousand juggernauts.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 10:43 AM
Oct 2012

Fair Taxer Not Joe the Not Plumber has pretty much a next-to-zero chance of winning this heavily blue district.

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