2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs it possible that some Trump supporters are moving to Sanders?
At the outset, I am NOT assuming all Sanders supporters fit the description below.
Could it be that a certain portion of Trump supporters who are motivated by rage at the status quo, and a desire to "start over," might have reached their limit with Trump's social irresponsibility (women, disabled, immigrants, you name it) and have switched to Sanders? Perceiving him (an extreme interpretation, perhaps) as someone who is also so enraged he just wants to start over?
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)I think you're right that many are just sick of both sides, of politics as usually.
But as you hear the details about nukes and hatred, etc., a lot of people are gonna say fuck this, who else is there?
And as they hear Sanders messages and see that he could take it from Clinton, say, ah, hell yeah!
onehandle
(51,122 posts)floppyboo
(2,461 posts)GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)And at least he doesn't yell at voters and point his finger angrily in their face.
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)...crickets.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)Just cause you guys keep saying it doesn't make it true
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)Jus' Askin'
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Kentucky Republicans have already caucused, but if we went in to WV with Trump no longer on the GOP ballot that could matter a good deal.
Vox recently did a pretty good piece about this:
http://www.vox.com/2016/3/31/11338806/trump-sanders-populism-voters
A new survey from the Pew Research Center asked supporters of the five remaining presidential candidates where they fall on various major issues. And on pretty much every issue tested, as the below chart shows, Sanders and Trump supporters have more in common with the other people in their party than they do with each other.
I think this gets to the Yglesias piece I posted about earlier: while (some) Trump and Sanders supporters agree about trade, it's not actually the defining issue for most voters (and Sanders voters aren't nearly as opposed to trade agreements as the sampling of DU would lead one to believe).
LAS14
(13,783 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)floppyboo
(2,461 posts)which is really scary. So many misinformed voters.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)If you do want some insight to my thinking you can read 'True Believer'.
brooklynite
(94,785 posts)Sanders voters conflate Govt and Establishment politics and want Govt to do more.
I don't see a lot of common ground.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)And if Trump's supporters have any sense (I hope some do) they will realize Bernie speaks to their concerns with reason instead of fear. He's the perfect candidate for them, minus the hate. Trump supporters have every right to be angry, it's just a matter of re-direction. They have the right reasons but they blame (and trust) the wrong people.
If they do switch, the divide and conquer tactic will have run its course. Finally!
See:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280133346
And
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511397357
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)they are going in every direction.
I suspect Cruz will get a bigger bump than any Dem imho
slepp
(5 posts)I just interviewed a former Trump supporter for my podcast and it was fascinating.
He's young white Chicago native who grew up in a poor and diverse suburb of Chicago, and certainly helped me check my stereotypes about Trump supporters. Sheds light on why millions of Americans support Trump *and* what might inspire them to move in a different direction (really useful information!)
Why did he defect from the Donald, and who did he switch to? I won't ruin the surprise
Sneak peek: https://www.facebook.com/Reckonings/videos/233194323706278/