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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 12:00 PM Apr 2016

Is it possible that some Trump supporters are moving to Sanders?

At the outset, I am NOT assuming all Sanders supporters fit the description below.

Could it be that a certain portion of Trump supporters who are motivated by rage at the status quo, and a desire to "start over," might have reached their limit with Trump's social irresponsibility (women, disabled, immigrants, you name it) and have switched to Sanders? Perceiving him (an extreme interpretation, perhaps) as someone who is also so enraged he just wants to start over?

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Is it possible that some Trump supporters are moving to Sanders? (Original Post) LAS14 Apr 2016 OP
From the "generally disgruntled" we might draw the non-bigots and smarter people. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #1
They both promise unicorns, so maybe. nt onehandle Apr 2016 #2
Hear Hear! I like the ones that promise nothing so we get a surprise unicorn! nt floppyboo Apr 2016 #3
Better than promising nothing, and yelling "No We Can't"... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #4
Hillary's 'Scream' Moment. PeoViejo Apr 2016 #8
unicorn spam Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #9
Is this a one-question Push-Poll? PeoViejo Apr 2016 #5
birds of a feather... CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #6
1-6 Leave. Agschmid Apr 2016 #15
I would doubt that in most cases; if Trump implodes and drops out that's a different story Recursion Apr 2016 #7
Thanks! Interesting and to the point. nt LAS14 Apr 2016 #10
Interesting that H supporters are more likely to favor universal healthcare than B supporters. DanTex Apr 2016 #13
And that Trump supporters are the most opposed to any reduction in Social Security (nt) Recursion Apr 2016 #14
This chart does not represent candidates stands - just perceived stands floppyboo Apr 2016 #21
Venn Diagram/nt DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #11
Venn diagrams can either intersect or not. What's your point? LAS14 Apr 2016 #12
I'll take the 5th DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #17
Trump voters conflate Govt and Establishment politics and want Govt to do less... brooklynite Apr 2016 #16
Actually, ideologies can be better plotted on a circle than on a plane. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #18
Yes, I see it all the time Rebkeh Apr 2016 #19
like rats from a sinking ship Sheepshank Apr 2016 #20
Why do Trump supporters defect? slepp May 2016 #22
 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
1. From the "generally disgruntled" we might draw the non-bigots and smarter people.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 12:12 PM
Apr 2016

I think you're right that many are just sick of both sides, of politics as usually.

But as you hear the details about nukes and hatred, etc., a lot of people are gonna say fuck this, who else is there?

And as they hear Sanders messages and see that he could take it from Clinton, say, ah, hell yeah!

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
4. Better than promising nothing, and yelling "No We Can't"...
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 12:28 PM
Apr 2016

And at least he doesn't yell at voters and point his finger angrily in their face.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. I would doubt that in most cases; if Trump implodes and drops out that's a different story
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 12:31 PM
Apr 2016

Kentucky Republicans have already caucused, but if we went in to WV with Trump no longer on the GOP ballot that could matter a good deal.

Vox recently did a pretty good piece about this:

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/31/11338806/trump-sanders-populism-voters

Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders might both be outsider, anti-establishment candidates — but policy-wise, their supporters don't agree on much.

A new survey from the Pew Research Center asked supporters of the five remaining presidential candidates where they fall on various major issues. And on pretty much every issue tested, as the below chart shows, Sanders and Trump supporters have more in common with the other people in their party than they do with each other.




I think this gets to the Yglesias piece I posted about earlier: while (some) Trump and Sanders supporters agree about trade, it's not actually the defining issue for most voters (and Sanders voters aren't nearly as opposed to trade agreements as the sampling of DU would lead one to believe).

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
21. This chart does not represent candidates stands - just perceived stands
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:41 PM
Apr 2016

which is really scary. So many misinformed voters.

brooklynite

(94,785 posts)
16. Trump voters conflate Govt and Establishment politics and want Govt to do less...
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:00 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders voters conflate Govt and Establishment politics and want Govt to do more.

I don't see a lot of common ground.

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
19. Yes, I see it all the time
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:07 PM
Apr 2016
Anyone but the establishment is the notion.

And if Trump's supporters have any sense (I hope some do) they will realize Bernie speaks to their concerns with reason instead of fear. He's the perfect candidate for them, minus the hate. Trump supporters have every right to be angry, it's just a matter of re-direction. They have the right reasons but they blame (and trust) the wrong people.

If they do switch, the divide and conquer tactic will have run its course. Finally!

See:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280133346

And
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511397357
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
20. like rats from a sinking ship
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:08 PM
Apr 2016

they are going in every direction.

I suspect Cruz will get a bigger bump than any Dem imho

slepp

(5 posts)
22. Why do Trump supporters defect?
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:19 PM
May 2016

I just interviewed a former Trump supporter for my podcast and it was fascinating.

He's young white Chicago native who grew up in a poor and diverse suburb of Chicago, and certainly helped me check my stereotypes about Trump supporters. Sheds light on why millions of Americans support Trump *and* what might inspire them to move in a different direction (really useful information!)

Why did he defect from the Donald, and who did he switch to? I won't ruin the surprise

Sneak peek: https://www.facebook.com/Reckonings/videos/233194323706278/

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