The Clinton scream.

[mia]

Why does she protest so much? Environmental issues should be a major part of the Democratic platform.

[villager]

1. *should* be. Any Presidency that doesn't address them will ultimately be... moot. nt

[Ghost Dog]

8. Moot? Genocidal. n/t

[roguevalley]

38. Politifact and Salon both said she took the money. Don't tell the HRC

supporters. They won't believe it anyway

[dana_b]

2. I like the comparison

#TheClintonScream

good one!

[appal_jack]

72. Reminds me of "The Great Cornholio."

Remember that old Beavis & Butthead schtick? Beavis hunched-over with his shirt collar framing his face, asking "Are you threatening me? I am the Great Cornholio!!" Substitute "I am so sick..." and you've got Hillary to a T, except that Beavis was much more likable and occasionally even endearing.

-app

[dana_b]

74. omg, I forgot about that

lol... man, the late nights in the 90s watching this stuff.

[appal_jack]

77. Good find!

Let's hope we can avoid the wrath of her bunghole.

-app

[Gwhittey]

3. Oh yea I raise you a

And he went on to the win the nomination but lost to Bush in 2004.

[desmiller]

28. Oh lord, how this hero has fallen

[Yuugal]

75. I remember it like this:

[jfern]

4. They asked Dean about the scream, and he admitted that she takes fossil fuel lobbyist money

If he had any principles, he'd admit that his campaign was destroyed for less.

[LAS14]

5. She protests because she feels righteous indignation...

... at the distortions being perpetrated by the Sanders camp. See my recent posts from the evening news, PBS newhour and Erin Burnett.

[mia]

7. I thought that the question that made Clinton angry came from a member of Greenpeace.

Some information about fossil fuel lobbyists.
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/07/hillary-clinton-bundlers-fossil-fuel-lobbyists

[LAS14]

10. It did, but it was about fossil fuel donations.

Sanders fossil fuel donations 4 100ths of 1%.
Clinton fossil fuel donations 15 100ths of 1%.

Why don't facts count anymore????

[CentralCoaster]

19. No link, I call bullshit.

Second time I've seen this claim, no links, no backup, and it probably doesn't include dark PAC money.

Any help here?

[questionseverything]

56. bernie has 50 thousand from workers,hc 300,000 from bundlers

All told, the campaign to elect Hillary Clinton for president in 2016 has received more than $4.5 million from lobbyists, bundlers, and large donors connected the fossil fuel industry.

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaign-updates/hillary-clintons-connection-oil-gas-industry/

[timmymoff]

70. cool they are close in donations

care to compare votes? Wasn't she lobbying for fracking? I am pretty sure she has some pro offshore oil drilling votes. let's not attempt to muddy the waters, your candidate already supports that though.

[Baobab]

11. They want to export LNG

to Asia where they may get three to five times as much. But it will kill jobs and we may end up in substantially higher heating and electricity costs - also, its significantly possible we could lose a lot of housing in cities, and possibly rent stabilization laws.

[pacalo]

9. The young woman wrote later that she was NOT with the Sanders campaign.

Sanders' popularity with young people, as well as his interest in protecting the environment, brought Hillary's paranoia to the surface &, very embarrassingly, caused her to act on an assumption. She -- being a lawyer -- should know better about making assumptions.

[oldandhappy]

31. Saw that -- Greenpeace only.

She was brave to ask the question - I would have been terrified to stand there with clinton jabbing at me.

[Umbral18]

36. Gawd, aint that the truth, just seeing her on TV scares me shitless. nt

[JackRiddler]

33. Sanders camp? Ha.

Just a few of the people who have always known the Clintons are full of bullshit neoliberal New Democrats on a poors-killing rampage. Today they may be Sanders camp? So what? In 2008 if they were old enough plenty of them were for Obama as the alternative to the Arkansas/Wall Street gang (even though he was not quite that). Corrupt machine politicians naturally organize their own opposition, in various guises. Hey, it's a tribute to the success of the Clinton machine. The smart and aware have always been trying to stop it, and it usually wins anyway. Not this time.

[revbones]

51. rofl So Greenpeace now works for the Sanders campaign? rofl

[HassleCat]

54. Indignation, yes!

The third way Democrats thought they had permanently buried environmental issues. How inconsiderate of some Greenpeace hippie to attempt to raise an environmental question. Doesn't he know the whales were already saved?

[Jackilope]

6. Guilt. Anything and anyone holding her accountable has to be Bernie's doing, right?

Hill, please. You want to see sick and tired? Get out of your protective bubble and $2,500 a plate fundraising parties and see packed stadiums and arenas of folks wanting real change.

[BainsBane]

43. How about Bernie stop accepting illegal campaign contributions

totally $23 million so far, as cited in federal documents by the FEC. http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/12/f-e-c-tells-sanders-campaign-that-some-donors-may-have-given-too-much/?_r=4
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/988/201602110300034988/201602110300034988.pdf
https://gobling.wordpress.com/2016/02/13/fec-hits-bernie2016-with-campaign-finance-violations/
https://gobling.wordpress.com/2016/03/22/bernie-2016-returns-donations-to-remedy-campaign-finance-issues/
There are links of FEC documents on the FEC website in those stories above as well as the Sanders Campaign Treasurer's response.


Funny how much more you object to legal fundraising that flagrant violations of the law.

Bernie's entire campaign has been based on these kind of false smears against Clinton. It's not projection. It's all he says. To pretend otherwise is absurd.

But accepting a campaign contribution from someone who works at a fueling station or an energy company, that's outrageous. She ought to be taking single checks 5x the legal limit like Bernie so she can claim to be a 'man of the people."

[dchill]

76. Baseless screed.

Congrats! Hope you don't do this for free...

[joeybee12]

12. Sexist garbage

Women apparently can't raise their voices...they can only scream...a right-wing talking point enabled by Bernie's self-righteous supporters.

[mia]

14. When all else fails

The gender card comes to the rescue. In vain.

[joeybee12]

15. Morning Joe is that you?

Pathetic post and pathetic response. You can't even see your own bias. when all else fails say "_____ card" because that's all you got. Do you use gay card and race card too? Are we at Fox Noise level now?

[mia]

16. My bias is toward saving the Earth.

Wish you well.

[joeybee12]

18. I get it...you're the only one who cares about that...

And you'll post sexist crap because you are so on the side of right it's justifiable.

[elias7]

26. So how would you characterize Dean's scream reaction?

It's not about sexism at all. It's all about ugliness in a moment. And in a vacuum. We're all capable of it, and all prone to potential distortions. Like Dean, Hillary was loud because it was loud in the room, but the microphone can be isolated.

[grossproffit]

21. Sadly, some don't even realize that they're perpetuating sexist sterotypes.

If Bernie yells, he's passionate. If Hillary yells, she's a b*.

[mia]

22. When Dean screamed it was because

men aren't supposed to scream?

[grossproffit]

24. It's 2016 now. Time to move on.

[Marr]

64. Dean's campaign was ended by that 'scream'.

The 'Dean Scream', it was called. That's what the OP is referencing.

There is no sexist double standard here.

[jfern]

27. Howard Dean is a woman now?

[RiverLover]

32. Right? The Dean Scream is going right over their heads.

And bleh, I'm so tired of seeing my sex used as a weapon. Sexism! Its a real thing & it sucks, but in Hillary's case, its used as a false flag, over & over & over. They use it so much, the real thing becomes lost. Its starting to really piss me off.

[XemaSab]

49. It clicked for me a minute ago

Bernie is angry because he has stuff to be angry about.

What, pray tell, is Clinton angry about?

[pangaia]

52. The possibility of losing.

[JackRiddler]

34. It was women protesting.

So your "gender card" is fully reversible. Plus they were real people speaking their minds truthfully, i.e. the opposite of Clinton.

[Marr]

62. You do realize it's a reference to the infamous "Dean Scream", right?

Howard Dean is, as far as I know, a male.

[7wo7rees]

13. Pretty much. Really abrasive, condescending. Unpleasantly rude.

Uncalled for.

[mia]

29. So male candidates can get slammed for screaming, but women can't?

Can't see the forest for the trees?

[dreamnightwind]

58. Perfect description of Hillary's response to the Greenpeace girl - eom

[grossproffit]

17. How dare she! Doesn't she know her place!

[mia]

23. Dean didn't know his place either. n/t

[reddread]

20. Its only global warming

[loyalsister]

25. If you can't drink their booze, take their money, and vote against them,

you don't belong in this business- Sam Rayburn. Those were the days! Too bad there aren't politicians who do take their money who we can count on to operate on that principle. Sadly, a lot of them apply it to ordinary citizen rather than lobbyists and corporate America.

[Kittycat]

30. Short fuse: "Go Run For Something"

Not very presidential

[Kalidurga]

35. I tweeted this to Hillary I wonder if she even knows how bad her tone was.

[mia]

42. Chalk it up to selective amnesia:

of the “tone”-gate disaster.

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/30/hillary_clintons_tone_gate_disaster_why_her_campaigns_condescending_bernie_dismissal_should_concern_democrats_everywhere/

...This has become a regular strategy for the Clinton campaign, consistently attacking the Sanders campaign for being “negative,” while itself running a dishonest and petty campaign, from the misleading attack on Sanders’ healthcare plan to Clinton’s deceptive auto-bailout remark to the malicious attempts to smear Sanders as a racist. (“Black lives don’t matter much to Bernie Sanders,” said Clinton surrogate David Brock in January.)

Needless to say, if the Clinton camp thinks that the Sanders campaign is being negative, wait until they face Donald Trump. This kind of touchiness about Sanders stating inconvenient truths (like her $225,000 speeches for Goldman Sachs) should worry any Democrat about the general election, when a Republican challenger, most likely Trump, will be going after Clinton on everything from the email scandal to the Clinton foundation to her deep ties to Wall Street and other industries. If Trump has proven anything over the past year, it’s that nothing — absolutely nothing — is off limits (this includes all the scandals from the ’90s, from Whitewater to Travelgate to Monica Lewinsky).

Clinton has proven over the past months that she is not a natural-born politician. (She even said it herself.) And for someone with her political baggage, this is concerning. On Wall Street criticisms, for example, Clinton’s retorts have been impressively clumsy, from her reference to 9/11 at the first debate (“I represented Wall Street as a Senator from New York”) to her dismissive “thats what they offered” reply about her Goldman Sachs speeches.

[Kalidurga]

44. It's funny I never cared about her tone before...

I didn't care if people thought she came off however they perceive her. I figure that is their problem if they can't handle her demeanor. But, if she is going to complain about tone then it's gonna come back at her that is just the way it is. I can't complain about people being aggressive for the same reason. Unless they are violently so, in that case sure they get to face the authorities and answer for that. But, verbal aggression no I have no room to complain in that department.

[mia]

47. Such a wise and sane post, Kalidurga.

Thank you.

[Kalidurga]

48. I try not to ask for better behavior from others if I am not going to do the same.

[grasswire]

37. Now, just tack that dog bark onto the end of this....nt

[mia]

39. There's hope.

[kgnu_fan]

40. omg

[BainsBane]

41. I'm didn't hear a scream

The desperation is showing. Anything to avoid discussing issues I guess.

[MrMickeysMom]

45. She protests because she thinks Democratic voters are fools...

Many of them are to never think to question any linkage campaign promises and high net worth, but the majority of voters know better.

[Cheese Sandwich]

46. Hillary's mean scream

please make her stop

[XemaSab]

50. The comparison of Hillary to Dean

makes me sad and uncomfortable.

[Bonobo]

53. Bad analogy, but it at least points out why it is NOT sexist to criticize her for this.

I have two comments on your OP:

1. This is a good illustration of how it is NOT sexist to criticize her. You see, Dean WAS attacked for being emotional (as many men are as well. Many). Hillary is not immune because she is a woman and cries of sexism cannot grant her immunity.

2. Dean's Scream was a nasty set up that didn't give a fair portrayal of that moment. The audio cut out the noise of the crowd so it appeared he was deranged. This video of Hillary on the other hand is exactly what happened.

[mia]

55. Well said.

Thank you.

[oasis]

57. Come at Hillary wrong and get your ass handed to you.

When will these amateur "activists" ever learn?

[mia]

59. Wonder how she'll handle this question during the New York debate.

Perhaps she'll do better when questioned by professionals.

[oasis]

65. Let's see if moderators think it's a worthwhile issue. nt

[tabasco]

61. Clinton handed her ass to herself.

Clinton's rude response to a valid citizen question did not hurt Greenpeace but it did hurt Clinton.

Clinton needs to keep her cool.

[oasis]

66. Hillary was right to suspect the motives of "Greenpeace". Their donors

don't expect them to be in the business of ambushing Democratic candidates.

Like it or not, Hill's going to be president, and with that, comes a giant "to do" list. I'd hate to see Greenpeace issues placed near the bottom because of a brash representative who is serving two masters.

[tabasco]

71. Greenpeace is right to suspect Clinton's environmental positions.

She is not the right candidate for this time of environmental crisis.

[Fumesucker]

73. Are you claiming Hillary would base her environmental policy on the behavior of one activist?

[oasis]

78. No. But if it's revealed the Greenpeace folk coordinated with Bernie folk,

they have some explaining to do.

[Fumesucker]

79. Ah, a conspiracy theorist

That explains much.

[stillwaiting]

60. I can not believe this person may be the DEMOCRATIC nominee. So sad. Nt

[JoePhilly]

63. Meanwhile, Bernie speaks in such gentle, dulcet tones.

[Babel_17]

67. It's the finger in the face, to a Greenpeace young woman that is most notable, imo

That's the demographic that her campaign expected to overwhelmingly support her. So her actions here can be taken as emblematic of her feelings regarding that not being the case. As well as other similar frustrations.
"Is it a meme yet?"

[noiretextatique]

68. She doesn't handle confrontation from commoners well eom

[arikara]

69. Not really the best analogy

Deans scream was played over and over again by the msm because he wasn't the favourite establishment candidate, and he was getting too popular. It wasn't even that bad if you go back and listen to it now. But the msm took great pleasure in mocking and making a fool of him over it and successfully trashed his campaign.

On the other hand, Hillary is the establishment candidate so you will hear crickets over this except on alternate news who aren't inclined to play the same 5 second clip over and over.