2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton campaign accuses Sanders of rejecting NY debates, says they offered three possible dates
https://twitter.com/danmericaCNN/status/716288209752338432The new meme that will come from Clinton camp is that Sanders camp rejected debates... Damn right he did; trying to suggest one of the dates be the same night as a NCAA championship game.
https://twitter.com/maryaliceparks/status/716296961268326406
Does the Clinton campaign think Americans are stupid? We want a debate when people will be watching
Edit: Here are the dates The 3 dates and times HRC offered to debate in NY: April 4th, During an NCAA tourney, April 14th evening (Tax Deadline), and April 15th in the FUCKING MORNING, ON GOOD MORNING AMERICA.
MadCrow
(155 posts)Maybe the Clinton campaign asked Debbie Wasserman Schultz for advice on scheduling.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)Sick Bern!
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)BY THE "OLE" MAN!!!! THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN MGT IS TOP NOTCH REFLECTING WELL ON BERNIE'S .... JUDGEMENT AGAIN!
Bernie surrounds himself with well qualified individuals no matter the position... the other side ehhhh... Not so much!
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Hillary lies to you everyday and you still can't see it. Then you call Bernie the liar.
azmom
(5,208 posts)And easily manipulated. They have no respect for the average voter.
I believe it is very representative of Clinton's mindset.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)You can find plenty of people here who happily claim the bullshit is the finest steak they have ever eaten.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)So if the shoe fits. Hillary is just chicken that's all.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State. -- Paul Joseph Goebbels
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)The rest is easy... Goebbels knew what he was doing....
"Fear" in this context is... one Donald J. Trump So reflexively we should accept the Lesser of two evils in Hillary... because Bernie cannot win, he's too old etc.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Maybe the Donald is putting on the fear show for Hillary, so we all get too scared and seek Hillary for help.
This is a possibility IMO. Won't work on me though.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)doer.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Kennedy said of the SCHIP program "The childrens health program wouldnt be in existence today if we didnt have Hillary pushing for it from the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue."
Some more things:
+the cease fire she brokered between Hamas and Israel,
+the increase that she authored to the FMLA that was rolled into the defense reauthorization of 2008.
+the coverage she got with her old enemy Lindsay Graham for National Guard reservists and retirees http://www.nbcnews.com/id/9063246/ns/po ... sDt4XldHIU
+she was on the advisory committee to President Obama that led to the killing of Osama Bin Laden.
+http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/28/us/politics/how-hillary-clinton-went-undercover-to-examine-race-in-education.html?_r=1
When she was 24, the children's defense fund sent her undercover to investigate segregation in Alabama schools.
◾Helped found Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a group dedicated to the betterment of childrens lives by advocating for their health, well-being, and education.
◾Attorney at the Childrens Defense Fund leveling the playing field for children
◾Director of Legal Aid Clinic at the University of Arkansas School of Law
◾Created Arkansass Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth because she saw a need for educating young children. Bringing HIPPY to Arkansas enabled parents to be their childs first teacher and prepare them for a life of learning.
◾Declared to the United Nations that womens rights are human rights which at the time she said it, was a very big deal
◾Commissioner on the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe
◾With Chuck Schumer, secured $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center sites redevelopment
◾Played a leading role in creation of the Adoption and Safe Families Act and the Foster Care Independence Act
◾Successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health
◾Helped investigate the affects of Gulf War Syndrome of the Veterans afflicted
◾Created the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice
◾Initiated and helped guide the Adoption and Safe Families Act helping in children in foster care move faster in to permanent homes
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Here We Go...
&list=RDUcGrzbxRaxs&index=1elias7
(4,021 posts)You know there was a valid gripe. Why frame it so provocatively? You're just fomenting the problem...
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Doesn't surprise me that Sanders' people will play politics like this.
Thanks for posting. Kinda backfired, huh.
elias7
(4,021 posts)Friday morning? Really?
Who's playing politics?
pinebox
(5,761 posts)It's as big as the damn Superbowl basically
zappaman
(20,606 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Perhaps its just the tone.
Just sayin.
MattP
(3,304 posts)So how many people wouldn't be able to watch because tax day is the 15th?
Stallion
(6,476 posts)read it just yesterday on IRS 1040 Instructions
Tax Deadline Alert: 2015 Tax Returns Are Due April 18, 2016
Plus, Maine & Massachusetts Residents Get an Additional Day
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)https://www.irs.gov/uac/Newsroom/2016-Tax-Season-Opens-Jan-19-for-Nations-Taxpayers
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Let the media choose the time that will get the most viewers. That should be the mandate.
I'd love to see the League of Women Voters brought back to be moderators, but that's me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Women_Voters#Activities
The League sponsored the United States presidential election debates in 1976, 1980 and 1984.[6][7] On October 2, 1988, the LWV's 14 trustees voted unanimously to pull out of the debates, and on October 3 they issued a press release condemning the demands of the major candidates' campaigns. LWC President Nancy Neuman said that the debate format would "perpetrate a fraud on the American voter" and that the organization did not intend to "become an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American public."
PufPuf23
(8,802 posts)suggest those three times and dates.
Back in 2008 and now in 2016, the Clinton campaign plays tactical bad faith.
So obvious.
okasha
(11,573 posts)that April 14 is not the day before tax returns are due, what's wrong with it?
jillan
(39,451 posts)Onlooker
(5,636 posts)All those dates have pro's and cons for him. The 4th and 15th are more than likely to attract more Hillary supporters than Bernie supporters. (In both of those cases, I think the debate watchers would more than likely be Hillary supporters, since younger people are more likely to watch NCAA game and younger people do not watch Good Morning America.) And the 14th is perfectly reasonable. How many of the people complaining about that date actually planned to to their taxes for that entire night?
Let's face it, Bernie's being a chicken here, and his supporters and campaign are trying to find a rationalization.
I argued that Hillary should debate. Now I'm arguing that Bernie should debate. Let's not let them find excuses to back out.