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Hillary says that her Corporate Donors don't affect her decisions, (Original Post) PeoViejo Apr 2016 OP
The Koch network alone has begun spending the $889 million that they have budgeted in 2016. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #1
When Bernie is nominee, the people of America will answer... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #3
You must be joking. I'm talking $889 million. How much has Sanders raised in total ? Trust Buster Apr 2016 #4
Bernie raised 183.8 million, Clinton raised 183.4 million since end of March... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #8
Bush's Money was well spent PeoViejo Apr 2016 #20
I'm gonna have to go with "thinks we're stupid or something" Autumn Apr 2016 #2
I don't believe anything Mrs. Clinton says bigwillq Apr 2016 #5
You are right, but she's not the only one KPN Apr 2016 #6
Why would anybody donate to a politician The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #7
She doesn't think much of us. Baitball Blogger Apr 2016 #9
You're telling me Sanders wouldn't be pushing his policies if he weren't getting funding? brooklynite Apr 2016 #10
Sanders is getting money BECAUSE of his policies. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #13
Funny how that works. Orsino Apr 2016 #16
Molly Ivins said they do it in Texas. HassleCat Apr 2016 #11
oh, no, my goodness, no, of course not, absolutely no way money can touch your decisions oldandhappy Apr 2016 #12
They don't have to affect her, she already agrees with them pengu Apr 2016 #14
We have a Winnah!!! PeoViejo Apr 2016 #17
Tha-Thump! PeoViejo Apr 2016 #21
Sanders speaks to tens of thousands at one time. For free. Clinton charges for a selfie-opp. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #15
I don't get your "Which is it?" Recursion Apr 2016 #18
Bill Clinton says that he "didn't have sex with that woman". Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #19
She doesn't care what we think. Lazy Daisy Apr 2016 #22
I'm certainly going to have to go with Bernie on this rock Apr 2016 #23
 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
3. When Bernie is nominee, the people of America will answer...
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:33 AM
Apr 2016

...We have answered against Clinton and now we the people are outraising her and her billionaire cronies.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
8. Bernie raised 183.8 million, Clinton raised 183.4 million since end of March...
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:39 AM
Apr 2016

But how much did Bush raise? And what the hell happened to that high roller?

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
2. I'm gonna have to go with "thinks we're stupid or something"
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:33 AM
Apr 2016

Of course her corporate donors, her foundation donors and the people who pay to hear her lovely voice giving off the record speeches influence every fucking decision she makes. Hell they influence every breath she takes

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
5. I don't believe anything Mrs. Clinton says
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:37 AM
Apr 2016

And I believe Bernie only slightly more. I learned a long time ago to never trust a politician.

KPN

(15,665 posts)
6. You are right, but she's not the only one
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:37 AM
Apr 2016

who must think we're stupid. There are plenty of them. But the sleeping giant was just sleeping and has been awakened.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,887 posts)
7. Why would anybody donate to a politician
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:38 AM
Apr 2016

if they didn't expect something in return? When I donate to a campaign it's because I'm hoping that candidate will promote policies and legislation that helps or at least don't hurt me. Corporations are not allowed to donate directly to a campaign, but thanks to the Supreme Court they can donate unlimited funds to super PACs that support a candidate. Of course, there can be no coordination between the campaign and the PAC (and if you believe that never happens, well...), but why would a corporation, as directed by its management, give large sums of money to a candidate's super PAC unless it expects that candidate to do good things for it? What other reason could there be to give that money away? And how naive can anyone possibly be to believe a claim that donations don't affect decisions?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
16. Funny how that works.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

People-based policies attract people-based donations.

We know what kind of policies draw corporate-based money, and what sort of future policies those dollars will drive. Tautology.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
11. Molly Ivins said they do it in Texas.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:42 AM
Apr 2016

She said one old time Texas legislator told a newcomer, "Son if you want to survive in the Texas Lege, you gotta be able to drink their whiskey, screw their women, take their money, then stand up on the floor of the lege and vote against them." (I am quoting this from memory, so it may not be 100 percent.) Of course this doesn't happen now, because the amounts of money are so astronomical, and that money plays such an important part in a politician's life. All legislators say they follow Ivins' advice, but we know not all do. Perhaps none do. Call me cynical, but I think money buys things, and nobody spends money unless they expect to get something in return.

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
15. Sanders speaks to tens of thousands at one time. For free. Clinton charges for a selfie-opp.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:54 AM
Apr 2016

>

And $27,000 for a seat at dinner and chance to actually touch her.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
18. I don't get your "Which is it?"
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 12:13 PM
Apr 2016

She said her donors don't affect her positions, he said his does. You'd say "Which is it?" if she had also claimed Sanders's donors affect his positions.

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
22. She doesn't care what we think.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:43 PM
Apr 2016

People lie to you for 2 reasons.
1) They don't care about you. They could care less if they hurt you with their lies. They're going to tell you what they want, and could care less what you think or feel. Fuck you, believe it or don't, they couldn't care less.

2) They think you're stupid. They think, for whatever reason, you are too damned dim-witted to know you are being lied to and think you'll believe whatever garbage they spew your way.


So, no Hillary, I'm not stupid and yes Hillary, I know you don't give a fuck about me.

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