Which will prove to be more damaging to HRC? E-mails, or the Clinton Foundation?

[panader0]

I'm going with the Clinton Foundation. I do believe that HRC fucked up royally with her
e-mail set up, and probably broke some laws. Whether or not she will be indicted is questionable.
After all, she has a lot of pull. But the CF, especially in the refocused light of the Panama Papers
will show the sleazy dealings of the HRC SoS. I'll bet she is shitting bricks at this point.

[Robbins]

1. Clinton foundation

easier to grasp that for public.foundation shows how crooked they are.foundation is slush fund for them that masqurdes as charity.

[daleanime]

2. HRC

Period.

[upaloopa]

3. Neither will hurt her.

The issues posted about the are not realistic. People are taking right wing talking points and believing them.

[panader0]

10. Both are very real issues. The FBI is not a right wing organization.

The sleaze of the Clinton Foundation is also under investigation. This WILL NOT go away
just because you like HRC. It's not right wing to want to expose the truth. IS IT?

[Marr]

21. ...

[SoLeftIAmRight]

26. please - tell us another story - please

tell us about her trip to bosnia

[CanadaexPat]

4. The issues will merge.

[tex-wyo-dem]

32. Yes...

I think the two issues are closely linked...IMO, I think the primary reason she decided to have a private email server off-grid was so she could run her pay-to-play operation through the Foundation without having the oversight that a .gov account would have had.

It was like organized crime in the DoS.

[HassleCat]

5. Probably neither

People seem to love her, no matter what. She is like her husband in that respect. They're both clever, intelligent, engaging and good at getting people to like them.

[Trajan]

13. I'm seeing a very large segment of the population disliking Hillary

'Some' people seen to love her, while others don't ....

[CoffeeCat]

19. 60 percent of Americans say that Hillary is dishonest

Yeah, we love her all right.

[tex-wyo-dem]

33. What do you mean?!

Her trust numbers are abysmal, and for good reason.

[Kittycat]

6. Clinton.

[7wo7rees]

7. The Foundation. Her role as SOS.

[Jarqui]

15. +1

Even if she's innocent, there's no time to clear her officially. The case is too complex.

Which leaves the door wide open for the GOP to allege quid pro quo - and with no ability to clear herself officially, she'll take a beating in the polls.

Hillary: "I didn't take money ..."

GOP Candidate: "Why did you accept millions from Boeing and Saudi Arabia after you approved the sale of a bunch of Boeing F-15's to Saudi Arabia?"

Hillary "That was money to the Foundation. Not me!"

GOP Candidate: "Why did the Clinton Foundation that got these millions of dollars from Saudi Arabia and Boeing and others in weapons deals you approved as Secretary of State tallying $165 billion, pay Bill's friend and your email buddy, Sidney Blumenthal $110,000+ and pay your buddy, Huma Abedin? What charity work were they doing? We didn't see that in the emails."

ugh

Bernie's not vetting her but the GOP sure will as much of America who hasn't been paying attention starts to tune in.

[7wo7rees]

20. There was a little moment in a little movie, Fern Gully"

Robin Williams was the voice of Batty Coda.

In the end, in a fun combat scene, he said "this is gonna hurt"

Hillary meet Batty Coda!

[Wilms]

8. Actually, I'd bet on where the two intersect.

[panader0]

12. Yes, they will intersect. I just want the truth to come to light.

Many do not.

[840high]

34. Agree.

[sadoldgirl]

9. The Panama papers

[Purveyor]

29. ^^^this^^^ eom

[Vattel]

11. The Foundation will hurt her. Its admin costs are absurd. I doubt the emails will hurt her much.

[Trajan]

14. It's the wrongness of her policies ...

Hey lack of candor doesn't help her ...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. Give her a break. Those were "Hard Choices"...like the IWR vote.

[NightWatcher]

17. C: Hillary jus bein Hillary

She entered the race with her unfavorables at 50%. That doesn't leave you anywhere to go.

[longship]

18. This!

Government Sachs!

[Sunlei]

24. Yes, how dare she think she deserves a chair or 'friends' at any events of the elite in our society.

[liberal_at_heart]

22. I don't think it is any one thing. It's all of it really. People just don't trust her.

[Sunlei]

23. Neither, I admire how thousands of people have been helped by their Family Name Charity.

And I think the email thing is another republican crafted fake 'scandal' that has cost Americans more millions in republican spending.

[tex-wyo-dem]

36. For the millionth time...

Her email server issues are not RW crafted scandals. The FBI along with the DOJ and DoS are investigating and leaks show damning evidence.

Hill syrup peters need to come to terms with these facts.

[Change has come]

37. Please tell me more about Hill syrup peters

lol.

[Sunlei]

38. IMO, they are simply, same, old school- RW generated attacks. crafted crap,like the Birther Saga.

The Gefilte Fish Sagas

[Betty Karlson]

25. Sadly for her, it's not either/ or. She has the combined fall-out of all her fuck-ups to deal with.

[Firebrand Gary]

27. That Hillary...

Devourer of worlds, the one who consumes all light. A force of darkness so dark she makes Sauron tremble like a newborn child in a house of horrors.

[AgerolanAmerican]

28. it's the same issue

and it really does look like it's going to end in revelations that she was selling our foreign policy to the highest bidder, and that Saudi and other Gulf state donations to the Clinton Foundation were the primary reason we went to war in Libya and (backhandedly in) Syria.

She sold us out. Literally.

That's the probable bottom line here, and we all know it's entirely consistent with everything she's about.

She's not going to get busted for mishandling classified info. She's going to get busted as a espionage agent on the payroll of foreign governments.

[Liberal_in_LA]

30. Non stop derision from DUers

[senz]

31. The emails show lawless arrogance but the Foundation shows, imo, systematic criminality.

The dozens -- scores? -- of quid pro quo dealings all around the world, favors done or expected, often with unsavory counterparts, for immense sums of money ... so dense and convoluted that Charity Navigator can't figure it out ... feels like a criminal syndicate on a global scale ...

What a juicy project for the right investigative team. Could almost be fun.

[Sunlei]

40. Audited Financial Statements & IRS Form 990s, Annual Reports,Foundation 1023,Clinton Foundation IRS

Clinton Foundation IRS Determination Letter"..link here. What, IYO, shows "systematic criminality"?


https://www.clintonfoundation.org/about/annual-financial-reports

[pugetres]

35. E-mails.

They lead to the Foundation.

Her desire to obfuscate her personal dealings from public dealings is not going to pan out.

[delrem]

39. The question is, how much can Dems stomach.

Dems do seem to have an almost limitless capacity.

All the time they had a majority the joke was that they couldn't find a spine if it was shown on an x-ray.
Always the rotation of "centrists" to give the nod to the Republicans. Always.

The Dem voters keep rewarding it.