2016 Postmortem

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts) Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:43 AM Apr 2016

How come that popular vote number Clinton fans use...

hasn't changed even though Bernie has won 7 of the last 8 contests? They've been throwing out the 2.5 million number for weeks. I would think that numbers changed a little bit. Unless Clinton is magic.

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How come that popular vote number Clinton fans use... (Original Post) Buddyblazon Apr 2016 OP

Because the states he wins are small Tarc Apr 2016 #1

Oh....so he's dominated her for the last 3 weeks... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #2

After tonight they can change it 2.35m Tarc Apr 2016 #9

Well, he eroded 135k or so of that number yesterday. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2016 #3

Okay...how much popular vote did he erode in the other... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #4

Dunno, haven't really been watching the numbers. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2016 #6

popular vote for caucases aren't tabulated the same. floppyboo Apr 2016 #11

Clinton backers seem to be math challenged Red Oak Apr 2016 #5

No wonder she can't lose... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #7

same reason that red states map republicans use JI7 Apr 2016 #8

They are probably doing some rounding of figures, but here's how the popular vote stacks up: Arkansas Granny Apr 2016 #10

yup, well there you go. Caucuses not counted floppyboo Apr 2016 #12

Caucus numbers not counted... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #15

Two reasons One of the 99 Apr 2016 #13

Has anyone fact checked her 2.5 mil...claim bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #14

Funny you should ask Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #16

Results of the Democratic Party presidential primaries, 2016 PADemD Apr 2016 #17

Tarc

(10,476 posts)

1. Because the states he wins are small

Reply to Buddyblazon (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:51 AM

Apr 2016

What was Alaska's total participation, 10,000? Those kind of numbers don't nudge the scales.

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)

2. Oh....so he's dominated her for the last 3 weeks...

Reply to Tarc (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:55 AM

Apr 2016

but those numbers haven't changed?

I mean she's only won two counties in all these states the last three weeks...but the number remains exactly the same?

Tarc

(10,476 posts)

9. After tonight they can change it 2.35m

Reply to Buddyblazon (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:11 AM

Apr 2016

And we can all be happy.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)

3. Well, he eroded 135k or so of that number yesterday.

Reply to Buddyblazon (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:59 AM

Apr 2016

But I guess saying 2.365 million votes doesn't roll off the tongue.

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)

4. Okay...how much popular vote did he erode in the other...

Reply to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:03 AM

Apr 2016

States in this string of victories?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)

6. Dunno, haven't really been watching the numbers.

Reply to Buddyblazon (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:04 AM

Apr 2016

Just saw the chyron on the tv a little bit ago or I wouldn't even know the 135kish.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)

11. popular vote for caucases aren't tabulated the same.

Reply to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:15 AM

Apr 2016

they are guestimates. And as Sanders dominates caucus states, don't be surprised. I'm trying to put pressure on Politifact for this answer. Hoping others that want to know will ask too.

Red Oak

(697 posts)

5. Clinton backers seem to be math challenged

Reply to Buddyblazon (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:04 AM

Apr 2016

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)

7. No wonder she can't lose...

Reply to Red Oak (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:05 AM

Apr 2016

If the numbers never change from her insurmountable lead...she'll never lose.

JI7

(89,271 posts)

8. same reason that red states map republicans use

Reply to Buddyblazon (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:10 AM

Apr 2016

Isn't as impressive as it looks .

Arkansas Granny

(31,531 posts)

10. They are probably doing some rounding of figures, but here's how the popular vote stacks up:

Reply to Buddyblazon (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:13 AM

Apr 2016

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_vote_count.html

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)

12. yup, well there you go. Caucuses not counted

Reply to Arkansas Granny (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:18 AM

Apr 2016

No popular vote for Sanders wins in
Nevada, Dems Abroad, Maine, Alaska, Washington.

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)

15. Caucus numbers not counted...

Reply to floppyboo (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:39 AM

Apr 2016

Makes sense.

Makes it a little disingenuous to throw out that 2.5 million number out there.

One of the 99

(2,280 posts)

13. Two reasons

Reply to Buddyblazon (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:35 AM

Apr 2016

1) Most of those states had a very small turnouts.

2) Clinton also got votes in those states.

So while Bernie's overall total went up, so did Clinton's. And because they were small states, Bernie's margin of victory wasn't enough to put a big dent into Clinton's lead.

But NY could change all that in 2 weeks.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)

14. Has anyone fact checked her 2.5 mil...claim

Reply to Buddyblazon (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:39 AM

Apr 2016

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

16. Funny you should ask

Reply to bkkyosemite (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:41 AM

Apr 2016

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/06/is-hillary-clinton-really-ahead-of-bernie-sanders-by-2-5-million-votes/

PADemD

(4,482 posts)

17. Results of the Democratic Party presidential primaries, 2016

Reply to bkkyosemite (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:59 AM

Apr 2016

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016

Contains total popular votes by primary, but not total vote overall.

Totaled Votes So far:

Hillary 9,421,743
Bernie 7,039,990

Difference 2,381,753

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