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Clinton's new strategy: "Unify the party later." (Original Post) thesquanderer Apr 2016 OP
Makes sense, Bernie has been bashing Hillary and she has mostly ignored him- He has flaws.. snooper2 Apr 2016 #1
Ignored him by..... astrophuss42 Apr 2016 #4
Regarding age. If Hillary is elected Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #5
Reagan age? rbrnmw Apr 2016 #36
Bernie has hardly touched upon Clinton's baggage. Skwmom Apr 2016 #8
Bernie's been bashing Hillary?! KPN Apr 2016 #30
Can't wait for the GE nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #37
HRC astrophuss42 Apr 2016 #2
when the time came for Hillary to end her campaign in '08 bigtree Apr 2016 #6
"Shame on you, Obama, shame on you!" astrophuss42 Apr 2016 #10
She did that after she was promised the SoS position. Marr Apr 2016 #20
untrue bigtree Apr 2016 #22
Publicly. Marr Apr 2016 #24
that's just your own cynicism bigtree Apr 2016 #26
Lol. KPN Apr 2016 #35
I'm sure she'll be so gracious this time as well KPN Apr 2016 #34
ITS MINE! ITS ALL MINE, I TELL YOU! WHY CAN'T IT BE MINE? DAMN YOU, BERNIE SANDERS! Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #3
Vete al infierno, abuela. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #7
Clinton has become Gollum!! CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #9
OMG...that's perfect! CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #16
We are watching her unraveling in real time yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #33
Hasn't that been Bernie's strategy all along? Renew Deal Apr 2016 #11
Unify doesn't mean capitulate. Heck, Hillary could drop out too, if that's what it meant. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #32
She can't unify the party ibegurpard Apr 2016 #12
^^This^^ n/t Ron Green Apr 2016 #14
+1 Marr Apr 2016 #19
Good luck with that Hillary. jillan Apr 2016 #13
Hillary: "PARTY UNITY MY ASS! I WANT TO WIN!" berni_mccoy Apr 2016 #15
The perfect anti-Hillary Campaign: the Hillary Campaign Marr Apr 2016 #17
At 0:35 he paraphrases Gandhi but he gets the ending wrong GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #18
NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. Hillary must think we are into abusive relationships. Avalux Apr 2016 #21
they won't stop being pissed at her while they think they can win. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #23
Right. Retreat, then regroup. The Midway Rebel Apr 2016 #25
What has Bernie done? CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #27
By championing the working class, rather than shilling for rich people like your candidate. Maedhros Apr 2016 #28
Although it is not generally the role of the underdog to play the uniter... thesquanderer Apr 2016 #29
Nope, you got that wrong. Just like Hillary and the corporate Dems. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #31
Yes! +1 KPN Apr 2016 #38
No, the party will not unite behind her. djean111 Apr 2016 #39
 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
1. Makes sense, Bernie has been bashing Hillary and she has mostly ignored him- He has flaws..
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:19 AM
Apr 2016

I guess the lovable white haired grandpa will soon have his flaws shown as Hillary's flaws have been-


Let the fireworks begin! LOL One flaw is he will be 75 in 2016. Nobody is going to vote FOR him because of that, but that will cause some people to vote against him-

astrophuss42

(290 posts)
4. Ignored him by.....
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:21 AM
Apr 2016

Calling out a Greenpeace activist for being on his team? No, she sees him in the shadows and her paranoia will in fact destroy her.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
36. Reagan age?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:46 PM
Apr 2016

69 years, 349 days when he took office Bernie would be older that Reagan when he was elected to his second term

KPN

(15,650 posts)
30. Bernie's been bashing Hillary?!
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:32 PM
Apr 2016

He's been a gentleman. What he's been bashing is her political record and positions, not her the person. Of course authoritarians always take disagreement personally and act accordingly.

Trouble with that is, most Bernie supporters are emotionally secure and mature enough to not be authoritarian, but (and as a result) we recognize it when we see it -- which probably has something to do with why we so fervently support Bernie over Hillary.

As for fireworks, more like duds to anyone who isn't an ardent Hillary supporter -- so go ahead, Let the fireworks begin (as if they haven't been non-stop for the past month).

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
37. Can't wait for the GE
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:47 PM
Apr 2016

If you guys think bernie has been a meanie, it will be fun. (Like a root canal) but it will be fun

astrophuss42

(290 posts)
10. "Shame on you, Obama, shame on you!"
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:26 AM
Apr 2016

Wait, that was before it was clear she was losing.

I'm glad she wants to be family but she is not my abuela.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
20. She did that after she was promised the SoS position.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:14 AM
Apr 2016

She'd already lost. She agreed to stop tearing the party apart because she got the Secretary of State post (which she fucked up, of course, but that's beside the point).

Do you know what her campaign offered Sanders when they were saying he should drop out for the sake of party unity? A chance to briefly speak at the convention. An intentional, belittling insult.

This is not a unifying politician. This is a supremely arrogant person with a massive case of entitlement.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
24. Publicly.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:16 PM
Apr 2016

If you don't think there was an agreement before her official nomination, I have a bridge to sell you.

I mean really, you expect anyone to believe that Barrack Obama couldn't think of anyone better than his race-baiting opponent from the presidential race to get the second highest executive posting?

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
26. that's just your own cynicism
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:20 PM
Apr 2016

...not a shred of evidence there was a quid pro quo.

I'm absolutely certain you'd strongly defend against innuendo like that if it was directed at Bernie Sanders.

KPN

(15,650 posts)
34. I'm sure she'll be so gracious this time as well
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

when Bernie wins the nomination.

By the way, she did this on June 7th -- after all 50 State primaries had concluded.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
9. Clinton has become Gollum!!
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:25 AM
Apr 2016

Clinton can only see one thing--her "precious" Presidency that she just knows is hers.

There are no words for how unbelievably oblivious she is. However, if there were "words"to describe how oblivious she is, the description would involve about five straight minutes worth of swearing.

Truly...grotesque.

thesquanderer

(11,992 posts)
32. Unify doesn't mean capitulate. Heck, Hillary could drop out too, if that's what it meant.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:33 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie still has a chance that is not statistically insignificant, and has plenty of money. Dropping out makes no sense.

But Bernie has still been considering party unity. Please see post #29.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
12. She can't unify the party
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:35 AM
Apr 2016

The divisions were already there and she is literally the embodiment of the reasons for them: abandonment of working and middle class issues and people in favor of corporate money and issues.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
17. The perfect anti-Hillary Campaign: the Hillary Campaign
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:05 AM
Apr 2016

If you think she's got high 'disliked' numbers now, just wait until her campaign goes overtly negative against a guy who is considered trustworthy.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
18. At 0:35 he paraphrases Gandhi but he gets the ending wrong
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:06 AM
Apr 2016

should be "...then Sanders wins."

"running out of patience" = they don't like democracy any more.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
21. NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. Hillary must think we are into abusive relationships.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:19 AM
Apr 2016

That's what she's doing to those of us who don't support her - she's abusing us, belittling us...her condescension is disgusting.

She is betting that our fear of Trump will make us swallow that abuse, all walk complacently to our shackles, and vote for her if she's the nominee.

NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
23. they won't stop being pissed at her while they think they can win.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:16 PM
Apr 2016

so, time to crush their hope of winning.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
27. What has Bernie done?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:20 PM
Apr 2016

He still bashed the entire Democratic party as being corrupt, and exactly what he's fighting against. How, pray tell, is that talk going to unite the party?

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
28. By championing the working class, rather than shilling for rich people like your candidate.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:25 PM
Apr 2016

/ignore list.

thesquanderer

(11,992 posts)
29. Although it is not generally the role of the underdog to play the uniter...
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:29 PM
Apr 2016

...the fact is, he has largely handled Hillary with kid gloves. He has not gone after her at all on her obvious vulnerabilities regarding the emails and the clinton foundation, places where the Republicans are sure to go after her in the general. In a sense, he is deferring on this out of a sense of party unity, i.e. not wanting to be too divisive, not wanting to do the Republican's work for them, not wanting to cripple the likely nominee in the general.

But if Hillary comes after him hard, and he gets close enough to have a real shot, who knows what might happen...

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
31. Nope, you got that wrong. Just like Hillary and the corporate Dems.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:32 PM
Apr 2016
He is not bashing the party, only the CORRUPTION in the party. That means you must see the corruption as the entire party, that to be a Democrat means to be corrupt. We see the better part of what being a Democrat means. We want to bring that out and drop the corruption.

Completely different perspective. You identify with the corrupt part and WE identify with the better part, the part that stands up for regular people.

We'll see who wins.
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
39. No, the party will not unite behind her.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:26 PM
Apr 2016

I just could not. A lot of this shit from her makes me so embarrassed to be a Democrat, now. if she wins the nomination, I will wait until Aug. 30, to vote for Alan Grayson, and then I am OUT.

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