2016 Postmortem
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(38,437 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)he won't stay for Hillary.
I would not be supporting a Third Way warmonger even if Bernie had not run. So there's that.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)I think the paradigm may just change. The outcome of the filthy politics affects them personally. Should be interesting.
Squinch
(51,016 posts)...
... can't stop laughing
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Been a Democrat for a long time, I am 70, but if Hillary and DWS and Rahm are Democrats, then I am not. Simple as that.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)It's a tell. When she cackles, you know someone just said something that makes her uncomfortable.
dogman
(6,073 posts)Very defensive reaction.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)When ever someone touches a nerve- she cackles like that.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,034 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)Keep it up!
seaglass
(8,173 posts)You might like this too:
Hillary Clinton Is Too Ambitious To Be The First Female President
I think it's about time we had a female president of the United States. I don't care what anyone says: Women can be just as smart and qualified as menespecially the clowns we've had in Washington lately. But Hillary Clinton? She's just a little too ambitious to do what no woman before her has ever done.
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Sen. Clinton always wants to be throwing her opinion around about this bill or that law. I saw her on Meet The Press just last week. Every time Tim Russert would take her to task on one issue or another, she'd come right back at him with some sort of smart answer. She needs to learn that sometimes you need to just accept your place; it's not polite to always act like you know things. Not to mention the fact that, as a working woman, she should take those precious Sundays to spend some time with her family, not to meet with the press on national television.
http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/hillary-clinton-is-too-ambitious-to-be-the-first-f-11229
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)politicians and their super delegate votes. Last I knew, buying votes is a fine example of corruption... as is money laundering (See DNC, 33 State Democratic Committees & the Hillary Victory Fund). How do you define corruption?
BTW, stop calling them Center-Right. That is corporatist propaganda. There is nothing 'Center" about the 3rd-Way, they are conservative, period.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)scioto99
(71 posts)Tsk, tsk, tsk. Go bake some cookies, little lady.
(sarcasm)
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:31 AM - Edit history (1)
she should go back to working for corporations.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)as opposed to her shitty record.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)msongs
(67,443 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Bengazi.....
It's all very funny stuff.
earthside
(6,960 posts)Whenever she is challenged or caught up in a very damaging lie or revelation of her destructive actions, she launches into one of her cackles.
Yes, this particular nervous, over-the-top laugh is a 'cackle'.
It is some kind of way for her to try and communicate that the point is not taken seriously by her ... when it is almost always a very damaging point.
Hillary has lots of these kinds of neurotic "tells" ... the too loud cackling laugh; talking too loud (shouting or nearly shouting); her nose up superior look; her eye rolling head toss; etc.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Vote2016
(1,198 posts)Protalker
(418 posts)These people are financed by big money. Koch has started their trash on her. This lady sat for 12 hours on Bengazi and won. Ambition or just plain guts. The SCOTUS is going to set agenda for years. Does anyone want back alley abortions as Choice. Think.
Gothmog
(145,576 posts)Dana Milbank has some good comments on general election match up polls https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/democrats-would-be-insane-to-nominate-bernie-sanders/2016/01/26/0590e624-c472-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html?hpid=hp_opinions-for-wide-side_opinion-card-a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Watching Sanders at Monday nights Democratic presidential forum in Des Moines, I imagined how Trump or another Republican nominee would disembowel the relatively unknown Vermonter.
The first questioner from the audience asked Sanders to explain why he embraces the socialist label and requested that Sanders define it so that it doesnt concern the rest of us citizens.
Sanders, explaining that much of what he proposes is happening in Scandinavia and Germany (a concept that itself alarms Americans who dont want to be like socialized Europe), answered vaguely: Creating a government that works for all of us, not just a handful of people on the top thats my definition of democratic socialism.
But thats not how Republicans will define socialism and theyll have the dictionary on their side. Theyll portray Sanders as one who wants the government to own and control major industries and the means of production and distribution of goods. Theyll say he wants to take away private property. That wouldnt be fair, but it would be easy. Socialists dont win national elections in the United States .
Sanders on Monday night also admitted he would seek massive tax increases one of the biggest tax hikes in history, as moderator Chris Cuomo put it to expand Medicare to all. Sanders, this time making a comparison with Britain and France, allowed that hypothetically, youre going to pay $5,000 more in taxes, and declared, W e will raise taxes, yes we will. He said this would be offset by lower health-insurance premiums and protested that its demagogic to say, oh, youre paying more in taxes.
Well, yes and Trump is a demagogue.
Sanders also made clear he would be happy to identify Democrats as the party of big government and of wealth redistribution. When Cuomo said Sanders seemed to be saying he would grow government bigger than ever, Sanders didnt quarrel, saying, P eople want to criticize me, okay, and F ine, if thats the criticism, I accept it.
Sanders accepts it, but are Democrats ready to accept ownership of socialism, massive tax increases and a dramatic expansion of government? If so, they will lose.
Match up polls are worthless because these polls do not measure what would happen to Sanders in a general election where Sanders is very vulnerable to negative ads.
Squinch
(51,016 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)and I think this is horse shit of the lowest order.
None of this convinces me that Hillary Clinton would be a better President than Bernie Sanders will be.
It just looks like smearing mustard, ketchup and dog shit on the wall and it is an understatement to correctly identify it as a reverse psychology (poor one, I might add) hit piece.
Is this amateur hour? I wouldn't want Hillary Clinton to lead our nation just based on how out of touch and ridiculous this blatant garbage attack is!
I'd laugh if the fate of our nation wasn't such a serious situation.
TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)She doesn't know how to play the fiddle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)and the "ambition" thing is a complete dog whistle from that sleazeball Devine.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I am a Sanders supporter, but what the world needs less of is Rush Limbaugh, even if somebody imitates him on the left.
I am way left. I'm just not prepared for Rush 2.0, Democratic version.