Did Sanders make a Papal boo-boo?

[bigtree]

Bloomberg ‏@business 36m36 minutes ago
Vatican official criticizes Sanders’s "monumental discourtesy" http://bloom.bg/1RIVvFP

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders reached out to obtain his invitation to the Vatican and showed “monumental discourtesy” in the process, a senior Vatican official said.

“Sanders made the first move, for the obvious reasons,” Margaret Archer, president of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the conference Sanders will attend, said in a telephone interview. “I think in a sense he may be going for the Catholic vote but this is not the Catholic vote and he should remember that and act accordingly -- not that he will.”

Sanders told MSNBC earlier on Friday that he had been “very moved by the invitation” to the Vatican, adding: “I am a big fan of the Pope.”


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-08/vatican-academy-criticizes-sanders-s-monumental-discourtesy

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-08/sanders-accused-of-discourtesy-in-seeking-vatican-invitation

[riversedge]

1. Here is your headline: Sanders panders for the Catholic vote..

... “I think in a sense he may be going for the Catholic vote but this is not the Catholic vote and he should remember that and act accordingly -- not that he will.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-08/vatican-academy-criticizes-sanders-s-monumental-discourtesy

[morningfog]

15. He was invited.

[riversedge]

22. Says who? Bernie. He lost all credibility when he LIED about Hillary.

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He told people he got invited to the Vatican. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-08/vatican-academy-criticizes-sanders-s-monumental-discourtesy …

[morningfog]

23. How else does he even get to go? he was invited. Yall are hilarious.

Even if he reached out first, he was fucking invited and it chaps your ass!! LOL

[Bubzer]

102. Exactly right. This has been addressed

Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican
Source: Reuters

U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was invited to speak at an April 15 Vatican event by the Vatican, a senior papal official said on Friday, denying a report that Sanders had invited himself.

"I deny that. It was not that way," Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo told Reuters in a telephone interview while he was traveling in New York. Sorondo, a close aide to Pope Francis, is chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the event.

He said it was his idea to invite Sanders.

A Bloomberg report quoted Margaret Archer, president of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, as saying that Sanders had broken with protocol by failing to contact her office first.

"This is not true and she knows it. I invited him with her consensus," said Sorondo, who is senior to Archer.

An invitation to Sanders dated March 30, which was emailed to Reuters, was signed by Sorondo and also included Archer's name.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141407803

[morningfog]

106. It's astounding. I don't understand why they suspend critical thought with this stuff.

They are spoon fed and forge ahead on confirmation bias and willful ignorance.

[Bubzer]

107. Those are the key words: confirmation bias.

Or, as I've come to think of it; USPS logic... if it fits, it ships.

Anything to fit the narrative.

[AlbertCat]

121. Anything to fit the narrative.

Like a cult.

[snagglepuss]

37. Bwahaha. The only liar is Mrs Pants on Fire herself. A proven liar. As for Bernie,

Coffee Cat, on another thread , has posted the invite.

[jillan]

57. By the Vatican!

“We are interested in having him because we have two presidents coming from Latin America, I thought it would be good to have an authoritative voice from North America,” Sanchez Sorondo said. Asked when he when the invitation was extended, he said, “Quite some time ago.”

[Seeinghope]

64. He didn't lie about Hillary!

Watch the videos. She stammered in her normal round about way that Bernie Sanders wasn't even a Democrat and blah blah blah when Scarbourgh had to ask her 3 times to CLARIFY what she as saying when she backtracked with her "I'm in the corner" admission. You people are really dense or purposely grasping at straws.

Bernie Sanders replied directly, as always and with truth. How could Hillary Clinton be qualified when she has made so many historic lapses of judgement that led to hundreds of thousands of deaths? Iraq vote, Libya, action, Honduras, Haiti

[frylock]

93. Says Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo

U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was invited to speak at an April 15 Vatican event by the Vatican, a senior papal official said on Friday, denying a report that Sanders had invited himself.

"I deny that. It was not that way," Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo told Reuters in a telephone interview while he was traveling in New York. Sorondo, a close aide to Pope Francis, is chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the event.

He said it was his idea to invite Sanders.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-vatican-idUSKCN0X5257

[w4rma]

73. Hillary is jealous. The Pope snubbed her. She'll wine and dine with Goldman Sachs, instead. (nt)

[frylock]

94. +2700

[katsy]

78. He getting paid $300k?

No?

Then what's the problem?

If the pope isn't fussed no problem. If the pope wants let him say no. He's a big boy.

[roguevalley]

85. no. the vatican debunked it already. Nice try though :D

[w4rma]

97. Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican (Papal aide accuses Archer of lying)

VATICAN CITY/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was invited to speak at an April 15 Vatican event by the Vatican, a senior papal official said on Friday, denying a report that Sanders had invited himself.

"I deny that. It was not that way," Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo told Reuters in a telephone interview while he was traveling in New York. Sorondo, a close aide to Pope Francis, is chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the event.

He said it was his idea to invite Sanders.

A Bloomberg report quoted Margaret Archer, president of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, as saying that Sanders had broken with protocol by failing to contact her office first.

"This is not true and she knows it. I invited him with her consensus," said Sorondo, who is senior to Archer.

An invitation to Sanders dated March 30, which was emailed to Reuters, was signed by Sorondo and also included Archer's name.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-papal-official-untrue-sanders-invited-himself-vatican-173414032.html

[hobbit709]

2. did you post your usual pile of taurine metabolic byproducts?

[geek tragedy]

3. shades of Romney's European Vacation nt

[SoLeftIAmRight]

60. under fire - pants on fire - hillary clinton - is a liar

tell us again about that trip to bosnia

[riversedge]

82. Twas Bernie that old anothe lie today...So, Sanders name drops the pope-the Vatican calls him on his

Sanders said, “this is an invitation from the Vatican, from a pope...Vatican distances from Sander's



So, Sanders name drops the pope-the Vatican calls him on his big fish story--and then Sanders drops the word -pope-the next time he speaks. got it!





http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-08/sanders-accused-of-discourtesy-in-seeking-vatican-invitation



.............Respect for Pope

Sanders earlier on Friday said, “this is an invitation from the Vatican, from a pope that I have enormous respect for in term of the level of consciousness that he’s raising on the need to have morality in our economy."

The office of the pope moved quickly to distance the pontiff from Sanders’s visit. Father Federico Lombardi, the Pope’s spokesman, said Sanders had been invited “not by the pope but by the pontifical academy of social sciences.” Lombardi told the Italian news agency Ansa: “For the moment there is no expectation that there will also be a meeting with the pope.”
.................

Sanders told reporters in New York on Friday that he is “very excited about this invitation from the Vatican to participate in a major conference dealing with how we can inject morality into today’s economy.”.................

[SoLeftIAmRight]

83. where was kissinger

[beam me up scottie]

87. "Sanders was invited to speak at an April 15 Vatican event by the Vatican, a senior papal official"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-papal-official-untrue-sanders-invited-himself-vatican-173414032.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

[Jackie Wilson Said]

4. Who in the hell is this Archer person?

[salinsky]

28. She is president of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, ...

which is hosting the conference Sanders will attend.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Archer

[noiretextatique]

129. But, as you probably already know, her boss says otherwise eom

[Bobbie Jo]

5. Ouch

[NCTraveler]

6. Here is the thing.

It's now known Sanders went out for this. Reading some of the names in the old Rick Warren threads shows many cheering Sanders on with this were absolutely trashing Obama for Rick Warren.

[Armstead]

32. It aint that simple....Pope Francis and his social docturne is not Rick Warren....

[NCTraveler]

36. Very similar in many aspects. Both spread sexism and bigotry.

There is simply nothing to debate about that.

[Armstead]

43. I said it is not that simple

Pope Francis has very enlightened views on many issues. remember how positively he was received by peopoe of all stripes when he visited the US?

Sure a lot of people have problems with the Church's stance on things like abortion, etc. Me too.

But in terms of overall social and economic justice, he reflects the principles of Sanders and many progressives and liberals -- as well as others who respond to those aspects of his message.

Rick Warren on the otehr hand, is just a pastor of an American megachurch whose divisive and conservative views on social issues did not merit giving the invocation at the inauguration.

[AlbertCat]

123. Here is the thing.

It's now known that Hillary supporters don't know what they are talking about....again....

Do they ever get anything right? (Hillary rarely does)

[KingFlorez]

7. ...

[Sheepshank]

8. Sanders invited himself to the papal party

and then claims it was in invite?

Perfect!

[giftedgirl77]

59. Lol some of the BernieBros have actually said that he only asked for an invite

so he technically didn't invite himself. The pretzel logic is painful as hell.

[riderinthestorm]

86. Here's the invitation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511681582

If they didn't want him, I'm sure they wouldn't have invited him.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

9. One quote from one source... A source who wouldn't stand on stage with Obama because was prochoice

[Viva_La_Revolution]

17. yes. i bet Pope Francis was not this person's first choice when they were electing a new one

[salinsky]

30. She was appointed by Francis ... nt

[Viva_La_Revolution]

46. does one preclude the other?

[Dem2]

10. I don't care at all

Nobody should have to kiss the Pope's ring.

[Armstead]

11. It seems like Lady Archer was being inappropriate

If they didn't want Sanders to go, they should have told him privately that they didn't think it was appropriate because of the political campaign.

Something is screwed up if they extend an invitation and then Lady Archer embarrasses him by criticizing him for going.

Methinks there is more there than meets the eye.

[riversedge]

24. oh yeah. Like the Sanders camp puts out news releases publicly to whine about Hillary and gin

up support. --and fund raise at the same time.

[Armstead]

27. What part of common courtesy do you not understand?

If she didn't want him to attend the conference, she should have told him or his staff privately and discussed it beforehand instead of issuing a statement after the fact to publicly embarrass him.

[riversedge]

41. Oh, Karma works in mysterious ways.

[Armstead]

47. You have no clue what a gentleman Bernie has been

If he weren't there's a lot of crap he could be bringing up and talking about.

[Sheepshank]

62. He's no gentleman

[Armstead]

63. You're entitled to your opinion.

[Sheepshank]

65. as are you

[riversedge]

66. I do believe he started out that way--but his big ego is getting to him.

[Armstead]

67. No I think Clinton's tactics and the nasty side of the primary are pissing him off.

That's not just a matter of ego. He's a big boy and has been involved in the bras knuckle world of politics in DC for a long time.

But he'salso a fighter, and is determined to give as good (or bad) as he gets.

(And just sos yo know, I think he should not have made that "disqualified" remark. Bhe made a mistake with that one....But I think it was a legitimate response to what Clinton and the media were trying to do to him.)

[riversedge]

70. Oh, I understand. Bernie has not control over his behavior and what is says. He said it

at an evening rally-slept on it and doubled down the next day. He had an opportunity to downplay it, but did not.

[Armstead]

71. I assume you have not been watching or reading about his many media appearances

He is "walking it back" as is Clinton.

They both amped up the personal negativity too much, and are trying to dial it back.

[riversedge]

79. Yes, I know sander walked it back today after a reporter prompted him 2 times that

I saw on the video. He distracted the first time.


Hillary never said Sanders was not qualified --but Sanders said Hillary was not qualified. He lied and now wants to fluff over it.

[Armstead]

80. Did you watch his Charlie Rose Interview?

[silenttigersong]

89. Karma is only a mystery to the ignorant. ...

Not calling you ignorant,studying Buddism.

[noiretextatique]

131. Her boss disagrees with her

He says Sanders was invited.

[Vinca]

12. Doesn't ring true.

Who would reach out for an invitation in the midst of the most important primary state race in the election? Bernie really can't afford to take campaign time to travel to Rome, but if it's an invitation it would be a monumental discourtesy to turn it down.

[Armstead]

34. Nah..I think he did seek an invitation...Nothing wrong with that

[Vinca]

75. See post 74.

[Armstead]

77. I stand corrected if they initiated it on their own

[SaschaHM]

13. Probably not the best move...

in a year where the Church is trying to look apolitical. The whole Donald Trump and Kim Davis flaps have left them a bit shaken so I'm guessing there is going to be a bit of conflict between his campaign and the academy over what he is and isn't allowed to say.

[nc4bo]

14. I thought it was a meeting on social and economic issues, not a meeting with the Pope?

That issue is right in Bernie's wheelhouse.

But carry on, just wanted to get some kind of clarification on what exactly this is.


http://www.cruxnow.com/life/2016/02/22/bernie-sanders-pope-francis-is-a-socialist-like-me/

In an interview with the Canadian Catholic television network Salt + Light that will air Tuesday, Sanders explained why he thinks Pope Francis is a socialist, comes to his defense against detractors who say the pope doesn’t understand poverty, and says that when it comes to abortion, “we just have to disagree.”

Sanders, a self-proclaimed democratic socialist, said he believes Francis is of the same ilk because the pope “talks about wealth being used to serve people, not as an end in itself.”

“What he has also done is raise the issue of the worship of money, the idolatry of money, and to say maybe that’s not what human life should be about, and that is a very, very radical critique of the hypercapitalist system, world system, that we’re living in today,” he said.

“What the Pope is saying is that human life, our existence, should be more than just the accumulation of more wealth,” he continued. “I agree with that.”

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/9/pope-francis-bernie-sanders-and-the-moral-imperative-of-systemic-change.html

This surprising intersection of political-economic ideas rooted in morality also reminds us that many people of the sixties generation not only have a history in common, but have become highly successful and moved into positions of considerable influence. Moreover, the huge response in America, to the Sanders campaign in particular, tells us something important not only about the state of this country, but also about what people with conviction can accomplish, despite their age. The moral courage in the face of systemic challenges demonstrated by both leaders recalls the sixties generation they are both a product of; Sanders as a civil rights activist amidst intense social turmoil and the pope as a young religious leader during a time of military dictatorship and right-wing death squads.

The pope has condemned the arrangements of our current political-economic system. Early on in his papacy, he set the tone:

Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system. Meanwhile, the excluded are still waiting.

Recently he has struck an even more radical tone. “An unfettered pursuit of money rules,” he told grassroots organizers in Bolivia. “That is the dung of the devil.”

Glad he's going. A POTUS' decisions stateside have the capacity to effect the lives of people worldwide, especially the poor and working classes.

Good that he is going.

[KoKo]

113. Yes...Recommend.

Glad he's going. A POTUS' decisions stateside have the capacity to effect the lives of people worldwide, especially the poor and working classes.

Good that he is going.

[mainer]

16. Her statement is explicitly hostile and bitter. Weird.

She could simply have said, "He asked for an invitation, which wasn't proper protocol."

Instead she goes overboard, accusing him of underhanded motives and adds that nasty little thing at the end: "He should act accordingly -- not that he will."

It's vituperative on a weirdly personal level, coming from a Vatican official.

[bigtree]

18. I don't think she's keen about being projected into the Democratic election

...and wants to distance herself and her academy from any implied endorsement in the race.

[mainer]

25. No, there were properly diplomatic ways to state it.

Instead, it was a full-on attack on Sanders.

I suspect that the next news we hear is that she's been dismissed from her Vatican position. After the Pope gets wind of this.

[bigtree]

39. she has zero obligation to advantage or mollycoddle U.S. politicians

...and every understandable interest in her own country and their concerns.

I understand that you believe Bernie Sanders is more important to the Pope than her position of responsibility there.

[mainer]

98. And you accept the word of liars?

Archer's already been called a liar by the Pope's close aide, the Chancellor.

[riderinthestorm]

20. I think we're seeing papal politics spilling into the open here

I'm guessing there's a lot of nuance missing and we don't have the entire story.

[Armstead]

35. She's a retired academic -- not some Vatican official

[frylock]

95. Yeah, that's straight-up Hillarian speak right there.

"He should act accordingly -- not that he will."

[riderinthestorm]

19. One outlier report out of the hundreds of others saying it was the Pope

who issued an invitation.

From the BBC  


Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders has accepted an invitation from the Pope to the Vatican. 
Mr Sanders, who is Jewish, accepted an invitation to Rome for a conference at the end of next week.  
The Vatican visit is four days before the primary contest in New York, a competitive battle between him and front-runner Hillary Clinton.   
"I am a big, big fan of the pope," Mr Sanders told MSNBC, saying they share the same views on inequality.   
"He's trying to inject this sense of morality into how we do economics... and we need that absolutely desperately."   
He will attend a conference on social, economic and environmental issues and give a speech on 15 April, his campaign said.   

Mr Sanders and Pope Francis have similar views on fighting income inequality, he said, and he was "very moved" by the invitation from the Vatican.   
He said he and the pope disagree on women's rights and gay rights, but Pope Francis has "injected a moral consequence into the economy".  
The senator from Vermont is trailing Mrs Clinton but gaining momentum after a strong of wins, most recently in the Wisconsin primary.   
In the last few days, a mostly civil fight between the two became more personal as Mr Sanders accused his rival of not being "qualified" to be president.   
Pope Francis said on Friday that the Catholic Church should be less strict and show more compassion to "imperfect" Catholics.   
He called on the Church to be welcoming to gay Catholics but did not change the Church's views on LGBT families and marriage.  


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-35999269 

[riversedge]

44. "Sanders earlier on Friday said, “this is an invitation from the Vatican, from a pope that..."

Sanders had to have know it was not from the Pope when he talked to the reporters.





http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-08/sanders-accused-of-discourtesy-in-seeking-vatican-invitation



.............Respect for Pope

Sanders earlier on Friday said, “this is an invitation from the Vatican, from a pope that I have enormous respect for in term of the level of consciousness that he’s raising on the need to have morality in our economy."

The office of the pope moved quickly to distance the pontiff from Sanders’s visit. Father Federico Lombardi, the Pope’s spokesman, said Sanders had been invited “not by the pope but by the pontifical academy of social sciences.” Lombardi told the Italian news agency Ansa: “For the moment there is no expectation that there will also be a meeting with the pope.”

Francis has raised the Catholic church’s emphasis on issues of poverty, environmental stewardship and aid to refugees. The pope already has played a role in this year’s election through criticism of anti-immigrant policies embraced by Republican candidates.

Sanders told reporters in New York on Friday that he is “very excited about this invitation from the Vatican to participate in a major conference dealing with how we can inject morality into today’s economy.”.................

[CountAllVotes]

21. Well its ok w/me if he wants to go visit the pope

Closed club is what it is.

As a Catholic, I am proud to be a supporter of his and so is our local priest who just came here from ... POLAND.

[mmonk]

26. No, the Pope's name is Francis, not Margaret.

[bigtree]

40. 'establishment' Francis

...vs. rank-and-file Margaret.

[silvershadow]

29. No. nt

[Nanjeanne]

31. Oh yes -it's very easy to invite yourself to speak at a Conference. All you have to do is ask

and then Poof - you're a speaker.

Jeez people. If they don't want him there - he isn't there. I'm an event producer. I've never had a speaker crash an event and get a podium and mic because he asked.

Get a grip.

[mcar]

33. So he's attending a conference at the Vatican

I thought he had a specific invitation from Pope Francis to meet one-on-one with him. That's what this morning's reports seemed to be saying.

[Bobbie Jo]

72. This is the point of contention

Nothing has been "debunked" here.

[left-of-center2012]

38. Wall Street (Bloomberg) attacks Bernie (again)

[Bobbie Jo]

42. Reminds me of the time

that horrid KY woman - county clerk- forget her name (Kim Davis?) wormed her way into a meeting with him while he was here in the States.

I think he was as surprised by the arrangement as the rest of us at the time.

[Nanjeanne]

45. Well The Chancellor of the Academy begs to differ with Ms. Archer!

However Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, the chancellor of the Academy, speaking on the phone from New York, said he extended the invitation to Sanders, though he declined to say who initiated the contacts.
“We are interested in having him because we have two presidents coming from Latin America, I thought it would be good to have an authoritative voice from North America,” Sanchez Sorondo said. Asked when he when the invitation was extended, he said, “Quite some time ago.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-08/sanders-accused-of-discourtesy-in-seeking-vatican-invitation

[questionseverything]

61. thanks nan for injecting truth into this thread

[seaglass]

48. Yes. The Pope did not invite him.

Sanders earlier on Friday said, “this is an invitation from the Vatican, from a pope that I have enormous respect for in term of the level of consciousness that he’s raising on the need to have morality in our economy."

The office of the pope moved quickly to distance the pontiff from Sanders’s visit. Father Federico Lombardi, the Pope’s spokesman, said Sanders had been invited “not by the pope but by the pontifical academy of social sciences.” Lombardi told the Italian news agency Ansa: “For the moment there is no expectation that there will also be a meeting with the pope.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-08/sanders-accused-of-discourtesy-in-seeking-vatican-invitation

[ibegurpard]

50. Pope - trashing to Vatican defenders in an hour

Do you guys give yourself whiplash?

[TheSarcastinator]

51. Hillarians Now in Full Meltdown Mode!

Oh, this is funny. DanTex, if I didn't know better I would say you are mole for the Sanders campaign....but that would require a rather high level of self-awareness on your part, and I'm just not willing to make that leap that claim would require.....

[frylock]

99. Every little thing is setting them off.

It is something to behold.

[workinclasszero]

52. "monumental discourtesy"

WTG Bernie?

[Land of Enchantment]

53. Adios to you to. Ignore.

[My Good Babushka]

54. Did ask for a ride in the popemobile?

Maybe he asked to try on the hat.

[bigwillq]

55. Doesn't seem that way (nt)

[jillan]

56. The VATICAN has already DEBUNKED the smear concerning Bernie's invite.

[nadinbrzezinski]

58. Nope, debunked by the Vatican already.

But I am sure you will continue to propel the propaganda

[nichomachus]

68. No.

That's another lie from Mrs. Clinton, among so many other lies.

Hey Hillary, when will we see the transcripts of your sweetheart speeches to Wall Street?

[EndElectoral]

69. Actually it appears Ms. Archer made the "boo boo" and the Hillarians jumped on board.

[morningfog]

88. Lemmings.

[kenn3d]

74. Bloomberg News: Vatican officials DENY Archer account, state they issued invitation to Bernie.

Apr 08, 2016 12:29pm CDT by InteGritty
Bloomberg has been quick to update their earlier story in which Vatican official Margaret Archer seemed to cast aspersions on the invitation to Senator Sanders to speak at an upcoming conference.

And the conspiracy theorists aren’t going to like it.

Sorry, folks. The Vatican invitation to Bernie Sanders is real. And it’s spectacular.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/8/1512646/-Bloomberg-News-Vatican-officials-DENY-Archer-account-state-they-issued-invitation-to-Bernie

[riversedge]

81. Sanders said, “this is an invitation from the Vatican, from a pope...Vatican distances from Sander

But Sanders name drops the pope --another tall fish tale. (I will be nice and not call it a lie)


Sanders said, “this is an invitation from the Vatican, from a pope...Vatican distances from Sander

.....the Sanders later drops the 'pope' when he speaks about this.

So, Sanders name drops the pope-the Vatican calls him on his big fish story--and then Sanders drops the word -pope-the next time he speaks. got it!

You forget what happened when Sanders talked to the press today.





http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-08/sanders-accused-of-discourtesy-in-seeking-vatican-invitation



.............Respect for Pope

Sanders earlier on Friday said, “this is an invitation from the Vatican, from a pope that I have enormous respect for in term of the level of consciousness that he’s raising on the need to have morality in our economy."

The office of the pope moved quickly to distance the pontiff from Sanders’s visit. Father Federico Lombardi, the Pope’s spokesman, said Sanders had been invited “not by the pope but by the pontifical academy of social sciences.” Lombardi told the Italian news agency Ansa: “For the moment there is no expectation that there will also be a meeting with the pope.”
.................

Sanders told reporters in New York on Friday that he is “very excited about this invitation from the Vatican to participate in a major conference dealing with how we can inject morality into today’s economy.”.................

[TheSarcastinator]

91. YOU know Vatican protocol better than the aide to the Pope?

Okeydokey, Torquemada.

[Lordquinton]

114. Should probably stop reposting he debunked article

Doesn't help your position.

[dr60omg]

76. NOT ACCORDING TO THE CHURCH

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-papal-official-untrue-sanders-invited-himself-vatican-173414032.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

[AgingAmerican]

84. Clinton partisans are apoplectic with jealousy

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/8/1512646/-Bloomberg-News-Vatican-officials-DENY-Archer-account-state-they-issued-invitation-to-Bernie

[morningfog]

90. KICK!!!! LOL

[frylock]

92. No, but Camp Weathervain made a poo-poo.

Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican

[TheFarS1de]

96. Wrong again .

Almost professional at how wrong you are . He was invited ...and as they are also hosting leaders from Latin America there is probably a damn good reason HC was not invited .

[Bread and Circus]

100. No but you did. Bern!!!

[pangaia]

101. You fucked up, Bigtree

it has been proven false ----BY THE VATICAN!
A 'second in command' LIED.

Nice try, though.

[bigtree]

103. I didn't write the article hotshot

[Bread and Circus]

104. You dun' posted it! Or do you wanna blame that on Superpredators that had you 'hopped up on crack'?

[bigtree]

105. you need blocking

...and some manners.

[Bread and Circus]

110. Quoting WJC gets me blocked? Jeez... I knew he was offensive... maybe you shoulda blocked him.

[tkmorris]

116. You believed it. You posted it

Do the honorable thing.

[bigtree]

117. did you see the question mark in the title?

...go bully someone else.

Blocked.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

108. No, he didn't. Bring more of your lies to the wood chipper. We're ready.

[hobbit709]

109. did you leap before you looked?

[Goblinmonger]

111. This is awesome.

Not as good as the "It doesn't look good for Sanders in Wisconsin" thread that was started during the day before Sanders CRUSHED Clinton, but it's pretty good.

I mean, if I was this staggeringly wrong, I'd self-delete my post so I stopped looking foolish, but please don't. I like when these stay here (I just gave you the 10th rec so it went to the Greatest page) so that everyone can see how desperate you guys are to throw any dirt on Sanders.

[Hiraeth]

112. this has been debunked. you should delete and keep what little remains of your decency.

not holding my breath.

[bigtree]

118. I'm not deleting anything

...deal with it.

[Hiraeth]

119. of course you aren't. you deal with it. you are the one that has to live with yourself.

[bigtree]

124. I'm perfectly fine with myself

...too bad this pandering ploy turned into such a fiasco.

Like most of the Sanders incidents, this one is being served up by the arrogance of his defenders. It's interesting how the Sanders campaign leads supporters to embrace the indefensible, like relying on the truthfulness of the prevaricating Vatican which still hasn't come to grips with the molestations and rapes of children by priests which they lied about and covered up for decades.

Not exactly the folks I'd go to when I'm looking for the truth, but you make your own choices and live with those.

[Hiraeth]

125. You are blaming this Pope for the history of The Catholic Church? O, Perfect Man. I rejoice!!

I have FOUND you. He without sin. AMEN.

I will go and spread the word of your magnificence.

[revbones]

132. So much egg on your face. Please don't delete. It's too funny.

Watching Hillary followers think they've got a scandal and then it's proven not only false but ridiculous too. It just showcases the difference in supporters.

Please leave it.

[beam me up scottie]

115. Rec'd for the crow pie:

Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican

VATICAN CITY/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was invited to speak at an April 15 Vatican event by the Vatican, a senior papal official said on Friday, denying a report that Sanders had invited himself.

"I deny that. It was not that way," Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo told Reuters in a telephone interview while he was traveling in New York. Sorondo, a close aide to Pope Francis, is chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the event.

He said it was his idea to invite Sanders.

A Bloomberg report quoted Margaret Archer, president of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, as saying that Sanders had broken with protocol by failing to contact her office first.

"This is not true and she knows it. I invited him with her consensus," said Sorondo, who is senior to Archer.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-papal-official-untrue-sanders-invited-himself-vatican-173414032.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

[azurnoir]

122. maybe they're settlers like these guys yum crow pie and jack rabbit stew

[AlbertCat]

120. "He lost all credibility when he LIED about Hillary."

Who has lost all credibility????

K & R-ed for exposing (once again) the lies wrapped within lies that Hillary supporters will fall for....


..... and the truth hurts.

[Hiraeth]

126. K&R for the PERFECT MAN post by bigtree. Rejoice all. For he has been found. Amen.

[bigtree]

127. blocked

[Hiraeth]

128. ignored

[redwitch]

130. No. How silly!

I do not understand so many people here wanting him to fail.