2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo, is Hillary now for a national $15-an-hour minimum wage, or not?
All I know is that she applauded New York's move to $15-an-hour, despite her prior opposition to the idea. But because of Hillary's ever-so-careful language, it wasn't clear to me at all whether she now wanted workers in other states to get this wage or not. Because we should never put words in people's mouths, we need to ask her.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)Maybe $8/hr. on the average.
Determined by "objective and verifiable criteria" such as educational attainment. they may have to go down in the US but they will go up in other places. The theory basically is that that is more efficient.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)areas, $15 in higher cost areas. California is similar too, only it takes a lot longer to phase in. Whatever, a change is needed everywhere.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)That's a shame.
It needs to be at least $15 everywhere and higher in the big cities, maybe tied to costs of living, average rents.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)in say 2150.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)What does that have to do with minimum wage, except that taxes should be increased to provide a better safety net. I realay don't care how much some of these folks make as long as it's taxed properly.
Heck, some guy will make several million for hitting a white ball around this weekend.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)worldly insight, she's the top draw. That's why colleges, Canada 2020, American Society for Clinical Pathology, US Green Building Society, Medical Associates, etc., want her so badly Many of those attendees were Democrats.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)them back from getting out of poverty.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Look up cost of living data and learn something. NY's new law to recognizes there are significant differences in cost-of-loving.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)should be paid less too?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)pays doctors in rural areas less than higher cost areas. A person making $12/hr in Podunk will be doing better than someone making $15 in NYC. Whatever that is the NY law. California will gradually increase minimum age to $15 in 2022. That is, not even $12 in today's money and the Governor can stop the gradual increase if there is an economic downturn.
Thing is, I'm not against a big increase in minimum wage -- it's how we get there across America that matters. Having these two laws passed in relatively high cost states, is not enough.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)paid rural workers living in poverty, got it!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)concept for you.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)in this country. You are also having a hard time understanding that it's not right to discriminate against low paid workers not living in big population areas. At least we can agree on paying women the same as a male, it's a damn shame we can't agree totally!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)really poverty, especially if we have health insurance, education, etc. Not saying it's a life of luxury, but a lot of people would love to make that much in many areas of this country. In any event, Clinton's plan will have a better chance of enactment around the country than Sanders'. That's the important point.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)live in a rural area. We old country hicks have to gas up the old rusted out pickup just to drive into the big city to find groceries, etc etc at a cheaper price. Your discrimination against hard working rural low paid workers is cracking me up.
Oh and city folks also have more high paying jobs available to them than us hillbillies do in Podunk, but that's another subject.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Again, I'm not saying it's a life of luxury, but $12 in rural Georgia where I was was born, is much better than $15 in the high cost cities.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Suspect she simply took advantage of an opportunity to appear with the governor and get a photo op and say how much she cares. The usual. She has never supported $15/hr. On record as saying maybe $12 in some instances. Interesting the way the rich have such certain opinions on wages for the poor!
onecaliberal
(32,880 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)He finally caved last month. And in exchange for inviting Hillary to the ceremony, she gave him the credit like he had led the fight. A pair of corrupt corporatists.
reddread
(6,896 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)it says that between now and nomination, she *invented $15 minimum wage!
coyote
(1,561 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)too low. So she is not a friend of raising minimum wages. Don't trust her BS. Its fake.
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)BainsBane
(53,041 posts)I'm sure if you can convince the GOP House to support a $15 minimum wage, President Hillary Clinton will be happy to sign it.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)RATM435
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99Forever
(14,524 posts)That's how evolution works.