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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:14 PM Apr 2016

Wow! The Guardian: Bernie Will Speak Against the Idolatry of Money, at Vatican Conference

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/08/bernie-sanders-vatican-visit-pope-francis?CMP=twt_gu



Bernie Sanders plans to warn against “the idolatry of money” in a speech at the Vatican next week which the Democratic candidate hopes will align his insurgent presidential campaign with the moral preaching of Pope Francis.

“What the pope has been clear about is linking the issue of morality with the global economy and making the point that you can’t have a moral economy when so many people are living in poverty,” Sanders told the Guardian.

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The Vermont senator conceded it had “not yet been determined” if he will have a private audience with the pope during attendance at the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences on social, economic and environmental issues.

A Vatican source also confirmed they would “not necessarily” be meeting privately. “It could happen, but very well could not,” the source told the Guardian on Friday.

The pope is usually reluctant to be seen as endorsing candidates or getting involved in national politics, but he caused a stir during his recent trip the US, when he called on Congress to tackle climate change and embrace immigration.

Sanders believes the pope’s unusually political visit in September helped lend legitimacy to his own message of “democratic socialism”, which he argues is much more in tune with the tradition of American political reformers like Franklin Roosevelt than is often appreciated.

The senator said he plans to talk “about the idolatry of money and the dangers to our culture of being seduced by the worship of money” during his visit to the Vatican on Friday.


He also said the evidence of offshore banking activity revealed by the Guardian and other news outlets this week in the Panama Papers underlined why it was important to reintroduce morality into financial regulation.


“It is not going to be a very long trip, I plan to be back on Saturday,” he added when asked if it would interfere with his campaign schedule in New York.

Sanders had been in fraught discussions with Clinton over the date of a televised debate between the two, which is scheduled the night before he leaves for Rome, and hastily added two rallies in his home borough of Brooklyn on Friday amid signs of he is closing a large gap between the two in opinion polls.

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Wow! The Guardian: Bernie Will Speak Against the Idolatry of Money, at Vatican Conference (Original Post) amborin Apr 2016 OP
That explains why he is taking a boat to Italy and walking to the Vatican. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #1
LMAO!!!!!!!!! nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #2
a must read! thanks! amborin Apr 2016 #6
Agreed nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #9
There is a difference between not worshiping something and hating that thing Fumesucker Apr 2016 #4
an important distinction that is not understood, amborin Apr 2016 #10
Remember the RW attacks on Gore for flying after An Inconvenient Truth? whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #18
Why are you typing on a computer? The minerals inside were mined by forced child labor! Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #11
You should just stop. You are embarrassing yourself. morningfog Apr 2016 #14
My Understanding Of Bernie's Travel Arrangements Was That He Was... SWIMMING OVER TO ITALY! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #15
This reminds me of what rightwingers say about liberals thesquanderer Apr 2016 #19
But he thought the subway still takes TOKENS!!! ibegurpard Apr 2016 #3
You are aware that's akin to the GOPers attacks on Obama's 57 States comment. No different. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #5
pretty pitiful thing to say; i grew up in ny and took the subway regularly; go back several x a year amborin Apr 2016 #12
loved the tokens wilt the stilt Apr 2016 #13
Wait I was informed that he "lied" about meeting with the pope. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #7
Wonderful kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #8
kicking b/c this conference implicitly slams everything the Clinton machine represents amborin Apr 2016 #16
Can I kick your kick? Barack_America Apr 2016 #17
yes,thanks! amborin Apr 2016 #20
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
1. That explains why he is taking a boat to Italy and walking to the Vatican.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:17 PM
Apr 2016

Because he hates money SO much.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. LMAO!!!!!!!!!
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:19 PM
Apr 2016

Now this is high comedy. You are getting better. I will give you that

Speaking of income inequality, here is a read that should clue you in.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I2WNYJW/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?ie=UTF8&btkr=1

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
4. There is a difference between not worshiping something and hating that thing
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:21 PM
Apr 2016

That you do not understand that difference explains much.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
10. an important distinction that is not understood,
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:41 PM
Apr 2016

apparently; by analogy, it's not that Bernie hates the banking system or hates banks; he's rather opposed to the
way the system is currently rigged; same applies to capitalism: every nation-state has its own capitalism; each political
economy establishes the rules and laws and distributional system that can make its capitalism mean and punitive, or just and fair.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
11. Why are you typing on a computer? The minerals inside were mined by forced child labor!
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:44 PM
Apr 2016

Quick shut it off and return it to Best Buy.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
15. My Understanding Of Bernie's Travel Arrangements Was That He Was... SWIMMING OVER TO ITALY!
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:25 AM
Apr 2016

The NONSENSE AND ANGST OVER BERNIE AND THE POPE SHARING SUCH LAUDABLE GOALS AS A "MORAL ECONOMY" IS TELLING. JUST A LITTLE ANXIETY COMING OUT OF THE CLINTON "CAMP!"

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
19. This reminds me of what rightwingers say about liberals
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:22 PM
Apr 2016

you know, "if you hate America so much, move!" Love it or leave it.

But of course, it's not about hate. It's about wanting to make it better. Whether it's the country or our economic system.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
3. But he thought the subway still takes TOKENS!!!
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:21 PM
Apr 2016

WTF is wrong with you people???
Where are your priorities???

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
5. You are aware that's akin to the GOPers attacks on Obama's 57 States comment. No different.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:26 PM
Apr 2016

.


Take a term, that's used in conversational speech, known to all who hears it, and then distort it.

Welcome to that club.


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amborin

(16,631 posts)
12. pretty pitiful thing to say; i grew up in ny and took the subway regularly; go back several x a year
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:45 PM
Apr 2016

always think "tokens," they're emblazoned in my consciousness; they're iconic; but I guess you'd have to be a native New Yorker to realize this

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
13. loved the tokens
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:22 AM
Apr 2016

with the little y in it. when I take the subway now I miss them How about those old trains with no air conditioning. open those widows and sweat.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
7. Wait I was informed that he "lied" about meeting with the pope.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:38 PM
Apr 2016
A Vatican source also confirmed they would “not necessarily” be meeting privately. “It could happen, but very well could not,” the source told the Guardian on Friday.

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