2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWow! The Guardian: Bernie Will Speak Against the Idolatry of Money, at Vatican Conference
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/08/bernie-sanders-vatican-visit-pope-francis?CMP=twt_guBernie Sanders plans to warn against the idolatry of money in a speech at the Vatican next week which the Democratic candidate hopes will align his insurgent presidential campaign with the moral preaching of Pope Francis.
What the pope has been clear about is linking the issue of morality with the global economy and making the point that you cant have a moral economy when so many people are living in poverty, Sanders told the Guardian.
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The Vermont senator conceded it had not yet been determined if he will have a private audience with the pope during attendance at the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences on social, economic and environmental issues.
A Vatican source also confirmed they would not necessarily be meeting privately. It could happen, but very well could not, the source told the Guardian on Friday.
The pope is usually reluctant to be seen as endorsing candidates or getting involved in national politics, but he caused a stir during his recent trip the US, when he called on Congress to tackle climate change and embrace immigration.
Sanders believes the popes unusually political visit in September helped lend legitimacy to his own message of democratic socialism, which he argues is much more in tune with the tradition of American political reformers like Franklin Roosevelt than is often appreciated.
The senator said he plans to talk about the idolatry of money and the dangers to our culture of being seduced by the worship of money during his visit to the Vatican on Friday.
He also said the evidence of offshore banking activity revealed by the Guardian and other news outlets this week in the Panama Papers underlined why it was important to reintroduce morality into financial regulation.
It is not going to be a very long trip, I plan to be back on Saturday, he added when asked if it would interfere with his campaign schedule in New York.
Sanders had been in fraught discussions with Clinton over the date of a televised debate between the two, which is scheduled the night before he leaves for Rome, and hastily added two rallies in his home borough of Brooklyn on Friday amid signs of he is closing a large gap between the two in opinion polls.
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meanwhile:
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Because he hates money SO much.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Now this is high comedy. You are getting better. I will give you that
Speaking of income inequality, here is a read that should clue you in.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I2WNYJW/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?ie=UTF8&btkr=1
amborin
(16,631 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)though a tough one
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)That you do not understand that difference explains much.
amborin
(16,631 posts)apparently; by analogy, it's not that Bernie hates the banking system or hates banks; he's rather opposed to the
way the system is currently rigged; same applies to capitalism: every nation-state has its own capitalism; each political
economy establishes the rules and laws and distributional system that can make its capitalism mean and punitive, or just and fair.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Same idiotic bullshit here.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Quick shut it off and return it to Best Buy.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)The NONSENSE AND ANGST OVER BERNIE AND THE POPE SHARING SUCH LAUDABLE GOALS AS A "MORAL ECONOMY" IS TELLING. JUST A LITTLE ANXIETY COMING OUT OF THE CLINTON "CAMP!"
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)you know, "if you hate America so much, move!" Love it or leave it.
But of course, it's not about hate. It's about wanting to make it better. Whether it's the country or our economic system.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)WTF is wrong with you people???
Where are your priorities???
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts).
Take a term, that's used in conversational speech, known to all who hears it, and then distort it.
Welcome to that club.
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amborin
(16,631 posts)always think "tokens," they're emblazoned in my consciousness; they're iconic; but I guess you'd have to be a native New Yorker to realize this
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)with the little y in it. when I take the subway now I miss them How about those old trains with no air conditioning. open those widows and sweat.