2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMSNBC host shuts down Romney surrogate: ‘I fact checked the apology tour… it didn’t happen’
Mitchell pointed out that during an earlier segment, The New York Times Elisabeth Bumiller had documented at least five issues where Romney had changed his position on foreign policy during Monday nights final presidential debate.
I think the opposite is true, Talent argued. Lets just be fair for a second. I think the president is modifying his positions to come closer to Gov. Romneys, and by the way, to come closer to the mainstream of American foreign policy.
He goes and does an apology tour, the former senator continued. And then last night he denies it was an apology tour.
Excuse me, Senator, Mitchell interrupted. I have fact checked the so-called apology tour and it just didnt happen.
Yeah, he went to four different cities, said America had dictated, Talent insisted, before pivoting to say that the president had resisted sanctions against Iran.
Ive been covering the Iran sanctions at the U.N. in the P5-plus-1, Mitchell noted. After that initial attempt
to reach out and give Iran a chance to try to have an engagement after that initial attempt, there was nothing but a move at the United Nations by Secretary [Hillary] Clinton to try to bring all of the allies aboard. The allies were demanding, Make an overture, then well be with you. And they ended up with the toughest sanctions ever.
Raw Story (http://s.tt/1qOOU)
maxsolomon
(33,360 posts)ignorance is strength.
so so sick of the party of arrested development.
Blue Idaho
(5,052 posts)Well, ain't she getting spunky!
Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)NO she is a shill.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)I think the opposite is true, Talent argued. Lets just be fair for a second. I think the president is modifying his positions to come closer to Gov. Romneys,"
THat is just batshit territory. I mean.. Fox news stuff...
Kber
(5,043 posts)The President clearly modified his positions four years ago to fit what Romney's positions would be today. It's sooo obvious!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)When you hear that, you know you''ve got a know-nothing shMitt-head on your hands. Yecch
Cha
(297,503 posts)They LIE when they get in front of a mic.
Glad, at least that Mitchell called Talent on some of his lies.
Romney's is a MF NEO CON, Talent, so NO, Romney was endorsing Pres Obama last night.. eat your last brain cell out, Idiot.
. Once Romney intimated that he might keep U.S. troops in Afghanistan past NATOs 2014 deadline. No more. Now he agrees with Obama that it is feasible to transfer combat responsibilities to the Afghans by that point. On Iran, Romney emphasized economic sanctions rather than the threat of a military attack, effectively endorsing Obamas approach ..
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-debate-20121023,0,2131672.story
h/t http://theobamadiary.com/
progressivebydesign
Ms. Toad
(34,085 posts)as dangerously far to the left. That is their reality - and now they are having to respond to objective reality. The only logical explanation, in right wing nut job land, is that he must have changed his position in order to be more electable.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Their whole campaign is based upon lies, all of them are in on it. They know this is their last chance to grab power and they will do anything to get there.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Up is down, left is right, etc.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)BLARRRGGGHHHH HE HATES MERKA HES APOOOOLOGIING CUZ HES A KENYAN MOOOSLAM WIF APOLOGY WAREZ TEH BARF KRIPPITICART WHARRRGLLL
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Is that Hindi?
Wharrrgleblarghbargleglaghhhhh!
MatthewStLouis
(904 posts)ksoze
(2,068 posts)chuckstevens
(1,201 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:33 PM - Edit history (1)
This whole Bull Shit "Apology Tour" story originated with Sean Fucking Hannity. If I could sucker punch one human being, hands down, it would be this little whimp. Hannity is a child who would never debate anyone, even an average caller, unless it was a safe for him to shout down anything said that he doesn't like. I'm reminded of what Al Franken said about Fox News (This is especially true of Hannity). It's like a Harlem Globetrotters game; Fox is the Globetrotters and anyone who a differing view is the Washington Generals: You know what the outcome will be before the game even starts.
However, it says more about the Mittster that he is so desperate that he uses Hannity lies for his campaign message. Wow, Mitt, I guess you've been "Hannitized." Must be a proud moment for a major party nominee for president.
libodem
(19,288 posts)Shoulda read yours first. I make up shit as I go, sometimes. Sounded Rovian.
I'll go with Hannity.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)with the femininity-as-ultimate-hateful-insult crap.
I mean, you wouldn't substitute any other group (and their genitals) for "p***y" or "cry like a little girl", would you?
chuckstevens
(1,201 posts)Sorry! I seriously did not mean to offend and I will edit my post
libodem
(19,288 posts)Fine of ya. Thanks for cooperating in protecting all the tender sensitivities.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)The guy I was addressing myself to didn't have a problem.
Do you jump in like this when people point out racism, homophobia, disability insults or any others?
Or do you save it just for those of us with "tender sensibilities"?
libodem
(19,288 posts)This time I meant it. I'm often very sarcastic but not in this case. I respect that he fixed it for you.
I can understand why anyone might wonder because I'm a big anti word police person.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Yeah, referring to "tender sensibilities" trivializes the form of demeaning speech and those who object to it.
I'm glad--it seems that you really do see the point, that your ethics wouldn't allow you to use that term if the issue were discriminatory language used to minimize any other marginalized group. Not everyone *gets* that. THANK You!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)instead of the snark that so many seem to reserve for sexism issues.
Kind of funny....recently I got to jury two separate posts here. One was an alert on a post with some sexist language and the other was an alert on homophobic language. Interestingly, the homophobia one was agreed by all except one to hide. The sexism alert, however was mocked by a couple of the jurists while the others, except two, voted to leave it--didn't even see the problem.
Oh well. Glad to see you're not like that!
libodem
(19,288 posts)Effing idiot. That's how they talk. "The apology tour" is an insulting insinuation started by those losers in '08.
They just revived it and hand fed it to the chump, who choked on it. Tumultuous.
amborin
(16,631 posts)JBoy
(8,021 posts)Much like their strawman opponent will take away everyone's guns.
fingrinn
(81 posts)Acknowledging past mistakes and things could have been done better?
The reason i now respect America again is because of Obama.
As for dictating? just google Diago Garcia for a lesson in American imperilism
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Or let him/her talk without questioning?
Hell is getting frosty.
johnsmith9875
(14 posts)I apologize for killing Osama Bin Laden and dumping his bullet ridden body in the ocean for shark bait. Heck of a tour.