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DCBob

(24,689 posts)
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:33 PM Apr 2016

Clinton team looking for knock out blow with "big win" in New York

From Wash Post..

Hillary Clinton says she needs to “win big” in New York’s primary to become the Democratic presidential nominee and “go after Republicans full-time.”

Clinton told a rally Saturday in Brooklyn, New York, that she wants to “send a strong message” in the April 19 primary and start unifying the Democratic Party. She says she is 2 1/2 million votes and 220 pledged delegates ahead of rival Bernie Sanders in the race.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-latest-cruz-adds-21-delegates-with-colorado-sweep/2016/04/08/c0ce4420-fdef-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html

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Sounds like she is trying to make the case with NY voters to help her put Bernie away so she can focus on preparing for the general and beating the Republicans. That's a smart tactic and could very well work. That might convince alot of Hillary supporters to show up to vote who might be somewhat complacent about this primary thinking she would win regardless.

New York can make history and help send Hillary Clinton to the White House!
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Clinton team looking for knock out blow with "big win" in New York (Original Post) DCBob Apr 2016 OP
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #1
LOL.. more fake scandals. DCBob Apr 2016 #2
Panama Papers are fake? beedle Apr 2016 #3
Get back to me when Hillary Clinton is implicated. DCBob Apr 2016 #4
I didn't claim she was beedle Apr 2016 #10
I know what the Panama papers are and they mean nothing regarding Hillary Clinton. DCBob Apr 2016 #11
I 40% to 50% agree beedle Apr 2016 #13
She will be lucky to pull a tie, as I read it. DLnyc Apr 2016 #5
++ Good "and quite likely will lose " Hopefully BIG. Vincardog Apr 2016 #7
I suspect you dont speak for all New Yorkers. DCBob Apr 2016 #8
No I don't, but come April 19th DLnyc Apr 2016 #18
"Not that popular"? I think a couple of Senate races and Codeine Apr 2016 #9
NYers just got fracking banned... Hillary takes fracking money... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #15
I will be more than happy to cancel your vote out in NY with my vote for Hillary Godhumor Apr 2016 #21
cool DLnyc Apr 2016 #22
Good luck with that. november3rd Apr 2016 #6
"New York can make history"?? WTF does that mean? I guess anything could make history. Silly! Logical Apr 2016 #12
Just the "silly" notion of sending the first woman to the White House. DCBob Apr 2016 #14
You then could say any state "made history", or any vote she got could "make history"..... Logical Apr 2016 #16
A big win in New York could finally convince Bernie that its impossible to win. DCBob Apr 2016 #19
Bernie needs to stay in race until convention. Keep hillary left. nt Logical Apr 2016 #20
Or the first Jew Fumesucker Apr 2016 #17

Response to DCBob (Original post)

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
3. Panama Papers are fake?
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:03 PM
Apr 2016

okay, if you say so.

Sberbank (Savings Bank in Russian) engaged the Podesta Group to help its public image—leading Moscow financial institutions not exactly being known for their propriety and wholesomeness—and specifically to help lift some of the pain of sanctions placed on Russia in the aftermath of the Kremlin’s aggression against Ukraine, which has caused real pain to the country’s hard-hit financial sector.

It’s hardly surprising that Sberbank sought the help of Democratic insiders like the Podesta Group to aid them in this difficult hour, since they clearly understand how American politics work. The question is why the Podesta Group took Sberbank’s money. That financial institution isn’t exactly hiding in the shadows—it’s the biggest bank in Russia, and its reputation leaves a lot to be desired. Nobody acquainted with Russian finance was surprised that Sberbank wound up in the Panama Papers.


Even if this was Sberbank's first ever totally clean transaction, that's still a very good question.

I mean it's not as good obviously as "who really invited Bernie to a conference on economics and environment" ... Panama Papers are only international fraud & felonies, so it's all pretty 'meh' for Hillary supporters.
 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
10. I didn't claim she was
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:20 PM
Apr 2016

for all we know Podesta is perfectly innocent as well.

But this Panama Papers are not a fake scandal, one PM (ice land) down, and another one (UK) is under serious pressure to resign.

Hell, maybe there will even be something connected to Sanders (not likely, but maybe it will be found he sat next to a corrupt senator in The Senate.)

But, at the moment, this is a close connection to the Hillary team, and another example of some really bad judgement on somebody's part.

Oh, I wouldn't worry, I'm sure there's at least a 20/40% chance the Russian bank stayed on the up-and-up for this transaction

Don't worry do, if things change I will respect your request and get back to you.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
11. I know what the Panama papers are and they mean nothing regarding Hillary Clinton.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:23 PM
Apr 2016

I know you people desperately want a scandal to take her out.. its not going to happen.

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
5. She will be lucky to pull a tie, as I read it.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:08 PM
Apr 2016

I live here, Hillary is not that popular here and Bernie is. I think she will be lucky to get a tie, and quite likely will lose significantly.

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
18. No I don't, but come April 19th
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:38 PM
Apr 2016

I think we New Yorkers as a group will do a pretty good job speaking for ourselves!

I remember marching in an anti-war rally up Seventh Avenue in front of the Republican Convention in 2004. There were 500,000 people there. When that crowd roared, it was something!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Republican_National_Convention_protest_activity

United for Peace and Justice organized the main march of the week, one of the largest protests in U.S. history, in which protesters marched past Madison Square Garden, the site of the convention. The march included hundreds of separate contingents as well as individual marchers. One Thousand Coffins, a nationwide group of citizens, veterans and clergy, held a procession of one thousand full-scale flag-draped coffins commemorating the fallen troops. Several hundred members of Billionaires for Bush held a mock countermarch. Estimates of crowd size ranged from 120,000 (unnamed police spokesman) to over 500,000 (organizers, second unnamed police source).[11][12] In March, 2007 NYPD Deputy Commissioner Paul Browne stated about the RNC protests: "You certainly had 800,000 on August 29."[13]


It might be wise not to under-estimate the progressive energy of New York!
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
9. "Not that popular"? I think a couple of Senate races and
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:19 PM
Apr 2016

a big primary win in '08 say otherwise.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
15. NYers just got fracking banned... Hillary takes fracking money...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:28 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary refuses to make a firm yes commitment to banning fracking nationwide...

Hillary refuses to make a firm yes commitment to pledging to refuse any further oil/gas lobbyist money...

(Things have changed)

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
22. cool
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016

By the way, Brooklyn has 2.592 million residents, a lot of whom may lean toward their native son more than that woman from Arkansas. Do you have a plan to cancel those votes, too?

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
14. Just the "silly" notion of sending the first woman to the White House.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:25 PM
Apr 2016

And the first First Gentleman!

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
16. You then could say any state "made history", or any vote she got could "make history".....
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:28 PM
Apr 2016

a bunch of dramatic BS.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
19. A big win in New York could finally convince Bernie that its impossible to win.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:43 PM
Apr 2016

Yes.. it could be dramatic.. but its not BS.

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