2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHas Clinton won even ONE single county in any state since 3/15 in terms of votes cast in person
on election day?
Yes, she won Arizona handily, but did she win a single county there in terms of votes cast on election day?
Yes, she won Milwaukee in Wisconsin, but did she win that county only on the strength of early voting and/or absentee ballots, just as she won all of the few counties she won today in Wyoming only because of surrogate caucus ballots?
I just find it extremely amusing as well as extremely telling that the establishment's long and loudly anointed candidate who was declared 100% inevitable by every corporate media outlet and pundit on and ever since 3/15 has somehow not managed to win a single county in any of the 8 states that have voted since 3/15 in terms of the number of Democratic voters who actually showed up to vote for her on election day.
You would really think Ms. Inevitable would be able to win at least one single county in any of the last 8 states that voted in terms of the number of Democrats who actually bothered to show up to vote for her on election day.
Just saying ...
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)She can't even get her delegates who should be her more enthusiastic supporters to show up to the conventions.... It's a big enthusiasm gap
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Why is the method of voting of such earth-shattering significance to you?
Provided a voter has followed the rules why is a surrogate or mail-in ballot of any less electoral significance than a vote cast at a polling place or as a result of caucus attendance?
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)now that he's demonstrated how competitive he is, he would probably have gotten more of those votes if they weren't already cast earlier
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)in EVERY STATE since the corporate media declared her the INEVITABLE, UNSTOPPABLE WINNER in terms of the voters who actually bother to show up to vote on election day.
I just find it bizarre that this does not seem to faze or concern a SINGLE Clinton supporter on DU.
As a staunch Democrat, it sure scares the fuck out of me!
Codeine
(25,586 posts)She's ahead by 200+ delegates and millions of votes. She's doing just fine.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Unless you don't actually care about the GE as long as an establishment candidate wins?
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Democrats Ascendant
(601 posts)She'll win. The electoral college favors any democrat - by a LOT.
By the way, you can't blame the candidate if it's the MEDIA who says she's "inevitable" and "unstoppable". It's just as hyperbolic as your tantrum: "She is the worst candidate ever."
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)If you just restrict voting entirely to in-person on Election Day...
This used to be something that only Republicans used to argue in favor of.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,249 posts)Lewis County, Idaho 20-19. It certainly is a limited response, but you also placed two parameters in your question: 1) after March 15 and 2) no early voting.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)But I'm still not sure how she pulled that off without cheating.
TexasTowelie
(112,249 posts)you set conditions that eliminated 3 out of the 8 states that had either caucuses or primaries. The only ones that were left were Hawaii, Alaska, Utah, Idaho and Washington.
We'll get a better idea as to how the nomination contest will resolve before the end of the month since there are about 750 more delegates available.
ContinentalOp
(5,356 posts)You're talking about
Arizona - 2.12% of the total US population
Idaho - 0.5%
Utah - 0.93%
Alaska - 0.23%
Hawaii - 0.45%
Washington - 2.23%
Wisconsin - 1.8%
Wyoming - 0.18%
A whopping 8.44% of the population! Feel the MOMENTUM!!!
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)that her or his preferred GE candidate cannot win a single county by more than one vote in 8 straight states in terms of ghe number of voters who are motivated enough to actually show up on election day to vote.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Should only the physically capable who can take time off work and arrange for childcare be allowed to vote?
ContinentalOp
(5,356 posts)That's for old people and losers with jobs. It's not true democracy unless I can get up in your face and bully you into supporting Bernie!
ContinentalOp
(5,356 posts)Like the fact that the supposed candidate of the working people has only won something like 5 out of 20 primaries so far but does significantly better at caucuses among people with a lot of time on their hands.
Or the fact that if you look at the top 20 races so far in terms of the number of pledged delegates awarded, Sanders has only won 5 out of 20 of those as well.
Or the fact that the last 7 states which Sanders won and which are supposedly evidence of his momentum include the 31st, 39th, 40th, 48th, and 50th states in terms of population!
TexasTowelie
(112,249 posts)that limited it to only five states so you are being disingenuous when you limit things in such a way. You completely eliminated Arizona, Wisconsin and Wyoming from consideration by the parameters that you set.
Sanders lost every county in Alabama, Mississippi and South Carolina; won only one county in Arizona, Arkansas and Georgia; two counties in Louisiana; and three counties in Tennessee. There are more people and more counties in those states than many of the states in the western half of the country. That's eight states that Sanders ran a near "goose egg". There are several other states where he also performed poorly such as Florida and Texas.
Keep trying though. I think that the Bernie supporters have more to be concerned about than the Hillary supporters looking at the next group of states coming up on the calendar.
msongs
(67,417 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
DanTex
(20,709 posts)some different way of scoring the whole thing....
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Onlooker
(5,636 posts)Bernie supporters point to the white caucus states where Bernie wins by wide margins; Hillary supporters point to the heavily black election states where she wins by big numbers. Bernie supporters cite how he's won so many more counties than Hillary; Hillary supporters cite how many votes she's accumulated. Each side needs its excuses.