2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHave you seen how many NYC campaign HQ's Bernie has?
12!!
http://map.berniesanders.com
I swear last week he only had only the one in Brooklyn.
I watch where these things are added to try to get a sense of the campaign's strategy, and where they feel their strengths are. At first, they were popping up all over PA and IN, but not NY, which was a bit concerning for their perceived chances in that state.
But, in the past several days...HQ all over NYC. Sanders has gone all-in on NY!
The internal polling must be looking fairly promising!
Oh, and don't worry, he's still got a bunch in the others states; there's been more added in PA and IN, and a bunch of fresh ones in MD. Hey, DE, you've got one too now!
flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)Also the Erie, PA and Burlington, VT offices aren't that far away.
It looks like he has more in Pennsylvania than New York State.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)5 in MD.
Any thoughts on the just 1 in CT?
jfern
(5,204 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)It's obvious that the NYC-area is where all of the WI staff went.
I personally have zero feel for CT, I would imagine it to be fairly strong for Clinton?
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)after her pathetic attempt to blame Bernie for Sandy Hook?
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)which last I looked is the same side that HRC belongs to...
amborin
(16,631 posts)HRC promised jobs that never materialized......does Bernie have a good presence there?
Schenectady, Albany, Cohoes, etc.......
jfern
(5,204 posts)Ithaca has a lot of volunteers. I don't know about other areas.
amborin
(16,631 posts)Schenectady is solidly white blue collar working class, old GE plant, etc....same for Cohoes, etc....we need people on the ground there.....
jfern
(5,204 posts)malokvale77
(4,879 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)And I think the new offices mean that the Sanders campaign thinks so too!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)There's only so much a campaign office can do in one week. Sanders has money to burn and he needs to win NY.
He's going to lose by double-digits here.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)The polls are already tighter than that.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)So that momentum alone suggests a close of at least 12-15 points further. Current split (even including the crappy Emerson landline only poll) is Clinton +14. And recent polling has underestimated Sanders's performance by at least 10 points, relative to the outcome.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)every other poll has shown +10 to +21.
There's only been 2 primaries since March 15.
Polls were within the margin of error for March 15 states.
Wisconsin I knew would be double-digits for Sanders. And I know NY will be double digits for Clinton. There's no pool of last minute voters available here, and independents won't be voting. So the polls have a much easier time measuring the electorate.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)According to the RCP average.
Right now Clinton is an average of +14 in NY, even including bad polls.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Worked out great for people hoping for Romney win.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Independents? Young people? Men? Enthusiasm?
I figure you either try to factor this into the existing polling...or you ignore the polling.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Polls underestimated Clinton in Ohio, South Carolina and other states.
There's no systemic bias in the polls.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Will it happen again in NY? We'll soon see.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)from a no-name polling company
538 didn't even have a projection for the state.
Yes we will soon see. But here's a hint: Clinton is not lowering expectations here.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)The upcoming Siena poll will be very interesting.
By the way, fun conversation with you. As much as I support Sanders, I think I enjoy politics a bit more.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)their methodology is the soundest of the pollsters working NY. the others try to combine general election numbers along with primary numbers--bad idea in a closed primary state.
I expect Siena to show modest movement towards Sanders, probably +15-18 instead of the +21.
Expect to see tons of complaints here on election day--it was a mess when it was Obama vs Clinton. Confusing rules, and less than cutting edge technology in our voting system. I feel somewhat assured that they can't corrupt the results too much here, because the system is too unmanageable.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)I can feel it. He is like kitchen soup for the soul
DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts)Last edited Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:58 AM - Edit history (1)
HQs by themselves simply ain't gonna cut it.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)He's in Buffalo tomorrow. Rochester and Syracuse on Tuesday.
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DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts)Onward. . .