2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNotice how Clinton wins big diverse states and Sanders wins white states.
Does not bode well for Sanders in New York and California.
New York will be HUGE for Sanders. If he can't win there by a good amount he can't win.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)As long as he keeps it close in NY, the battle will end in California. If he wins big in NY, the battle still goes to Cali. The only way NY changes the contest is if it is a large Hillary win.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)Oklahoma, Wyoming, Utah
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)uh huh.
I live in Washington.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)And Hawaii, which is majority POC.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)RealAmericanDem
(221 posts)Blacks 3.6%
Hispanics 6.3%
Asian 7.2%
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Washington is one of the most liberal (Blue) states.
I was responding to Renew Deal.
Thanks anyway.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)brush
(53,787 posts)small states but didn't want to say it like the OP just did and risk getting hidden by the alerters and Sanders-dominated jury system.
What does that mean that he wins the mostly white states. Good question.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)My point is that there is absolutely NO correlation between how conservative a state is and how well Hillary or Bernie did.
There does seem to be a North/South correlation going on, which is worth exploring.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Sorry Hawaii.
Get lost Alaska.
#ClintonDiversity
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Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Education has failed you.
And since when is the amount of black population the only measure of a state's diversity? According to the 2010 census, Hawaii's white only (non-Hispanic) population is only 22.7%. They are the most diverse state in our union. Further, I think you owe the black population you so callously dismissed, an apology. Many of them have been identified as service men and women in Hawaii.
But please, keep insulting and discarding minorities because they don't meet your criteria. I believe there's a term for that.
Eta: measuring diversity isn't just measuring a demographic. So, in measuring diversity, Washington has actually ranked in the top 10 at least in the past 10 years for most diverse, along with Alaska.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)China has essentially no white population. That doesn't make China a diverse country.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Going to have an honest or factual one. You can't ignore minorities or states because you don't like Bernie. You can't ignore the measure of how diversity is determined either, because it doesn't fit your definition. There are many factors that play in to that. And saying there are no blacks in Hawaii was an ignorant statement. I'm done speaking with you.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)as the measure of diversity, as you are doing for Hawaii, is flawed. If you don't like that being pointed out, too bad.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Needed delegates.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)They just can't accept the fact that Bernie will NOT be the nominee.
DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)Sorry we don't just roll over and play dead.
Maybe you should just wait and see what happens instead of making more enemies.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... reality wins!
Bernie will NEVER become the nominee. That's reality. ("Sorry."
DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)That's not reality, it's a bubble.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)When it comes to "reality" you might as well go all the way. You want to be so rough and tough and hard-headed in your tone? Ha!
Those foolish children who actually believe in trying to effect political change to make the US more responsive to the needs of everyone.....They should just go in a corner and suck their thumbs and read My Little Pony.
Vinca
(50,278 posts)Hillary is winning states we almost always lose (conservative states) in the general election and Bernie is winning states we win in the general election. She may end up the nominee thanks to those losing states, but it doesn't erase the fact she wasn't the first choice in the states we reliably win.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)Those whites are an important minority.
RealAmericanDem
(221 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)If Mrs. Clintons favorability numbers translate into voting behavior, she would be in a pretty deep hole: Her 26% favorable rating among white men is lower than the 35% share that Mr. Obama won in the 2012 election.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/10/22/can-hillary-clinton-underperform-barack-obama-with-white-voters-and-win/
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)But if Trump is the nominee then Hills should be able to win. His favorability rating is even worse than Hills', which means it must be really bad. Surprised the Dem establishment couldn't find a nominee who wasn't so disliked. Biden would have been a much, much better option.
DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)We are concerned if Hillary wins the nomination.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)Or proposals.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)They do this because many don't support her policies, just her. Makes no sense to me, but I'll let them work that out with their therapists.
If you want to have some fun though, post one of those "which candidate do you agree with quizzes" and watch them freak out over how far they have to tack right to get matched up with their girl.
Direct quote from the last thread, "this quiz has an obvious bias towards Sanders!"
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)There is no state more diverse than Hawaii, I grew up there and as a while male, I was the minority. Oops! Reality throw a wrench into your fact free talking point existence?
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)And I think he's going to do it.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)tin ears and cognitive dissance are starting to annoy me greatly.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Notice Sanders is going to the Vatican while Hillary is going to superrich fundraisers in SF? Notice the recent momentum and huge increase in attention Sanders is getting?
Tough call.
"The protesters shouted that "black youth are not super predators," taking issue with a phrase then-first lady Hillary Clinton used in a 1996 speech about violent crime committed by young people
He also defended Hillary Clinton's use of the phrase "super predators."
"I don't know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13-year-old kids hopped up on crack, and sent them out in the streets to murder other African-American children,"
"A poll released Thursday shows Latino registered voters are relatively divided between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders as the New York primary looms.
Latinos voters were essentially divided 48 percent for Sanders and 47 percent for Clinton in the poll conducted March 30-April 3 by Public Religion Research Institute in partnership with The Atlantic. "
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)I really need to listen to the Clinton narrative more it's like listening to Baghdad Bob....everything is fine
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Just this humble NYers opinion.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... you're setting a good example.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)for the Hillary campaign to disintegrate.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Spend some time at the link, you can compare State to State, State to nation, city to city. All sorts of demographic information. Interesting tidbits: Which is 'whiter'? Illinois or Oklahoma? Illinois. Which States have white minority? Hawaii only. Who won Hawaii? Bernie. Who won Oklahoma? Bernie.
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dchill
(38,503 posts)Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)Way to continue to discount and diminish the votes of anyone else. This could be reversed just as easily to ask why Hillary can't win the white vote. Ridiculous both ways.
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)You do know that Donald Trump tries to divide people by race don't you?