How did HRC gain such a big lead in delegates in southern states?

[morningglory]

I feel you all have answered this before, but I am unaware how she got such a jump by campaigning in southern states.

[reformist2]

1. She blew Sanders out of the water in those states. Too bad we can't win any of them in November...

[EndElectoral]

5. She maintains a majority in AA communities, and white Dem. voters in South tend to be conservative.

She's a moderate and the Southern white democrats are comfortable with that, and the AA community supports her for their own reasons. I won't speak to that except I've seem comments that the AA community was upset Sanders suggested Obama be primaried in 2012, that she understands the south better than Sanders. and endorsements from civil rights leaders like Lewis helped her cause. She's also got a better Southern dialect than Sanders which she brings out on occasion down there.

[Broward]

2. Name recognition, nt.

[mcar]

31. Yes because us Southern Democrats are too

"Low information" to make educated and informed choices, right?

[Broward]

33. For some, yes.

Whether it's believing Hillary's lies or the failure of the MSM, many are either uninformed or misinformed.

[mcar]

35. I am very well informed

and I was proud to vote for Hillary in FL's primary. I dare say many of my fellow Democrats in the south are equally well informed. Unless you can point to some actual proof otherwise, I stand by my contention.

[Broward]

37. I agree some are well informed and are still voting for the right-winger.

[mcar]

38. I voted for a Democratic candidate, not a right winger

[Broward]

39. I just don't see those two things as mutually exclusive.

[BainsBane]

3. By people voting for her. AA votes especially

but she also won whites in Southern states. Bernie hasn't been able to attract support there.

[PowerToThePeople]

4. Delegates are based

by overall state population, not just democratic voters. They do "scale" it by whether or not they went for the last POTUS, but I think it still gives more delegates per voter in red states.

(I could be incorrect, but I think this is basically the issue)

[MineralMan]

6. The Democrats in those states voted for her. Simple.

What else?

[Codeine]

7. By winning them. Big. By huge blowout margins.

Which she did by winning the African American vote. Big. By huge blowout margins.

[Vinca]

8. Bernie was not taken seriously for many months and was rarely given media coverage.

So you have the most famous woman in the world vs. an unknown Vermont senator. It makes you wonder why Hillary hasn't been able to wrap this up.

[mythology]

17. And Obama was a household name?

Sanders isn't winning because he's never been able to put together enough of a coalition in the Democratic primaries to win. He's relying on young voters and independents. There are enough of those to make it a race, but not enough to push him over the top at this point.

It's not about how known he was at the start of the race. It's about where his support is.

[Surya Gayatri]

25. Very well said...

It's not about how known he was at the start of the race. It's about where his support is.

[Armstead]

32. Obama was touted as a candidate ever siunce his convention "purple nation" speech

I don't know if you remember how he was cited as the next Democratic Star before he was even elected to the Senate.

For Clinton his only cardinal sin was jumping the cue by not waiting his turn after her turn in 2008.

[Vinca]

40. How soon they forget. Obama was a rock star from the moment he gave the speech

at the 2004 Democratic Convention. I don't know how many people I've talked to who have said that when they watched that speech they were certain they were watching a person who would be POTUS one day.

[msanthrope]

9. Hard work. Also, she didn't vote against NAACP

Lawsuits.

[Bayard]

10. Division of Delegates

I don't get this either. Did she get all the delegates in those states? But now they each get half?

[Democrats Ascendant]

13. No. Dem primary races are always proportional.

So, Sanders still walked away with 9 delegates in Alabama, for example, even though he got under 20% of the vote.

[Codeine]

18. Have you been asleep for several months?

Seriously, what the fresh hell is going on? She won those states by ENORMOUS margins. It's wasn't that bloody long ago.

Do keep up.

[Democrats Ascendant]

19. This person may be confusing with Repug rules.

As evidenced by the explanation given.

[morningglory]

24. No excuse, but I was in the hospital in January for a week and lost some time.

Recuperating.

[WhiteTara]

29. I hope you are all better. nt

[Bayard]

45. I was asking an honest question

So bite me.

[KingFlorez]

11. The voters voted for her, it's that simple

[NightWatcher]

14. Because Bill Clinton once played saxophone on Arsenio Hall's show

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. As I am not as perspicacious as some of my fellow denizens of this board

Because Bill Clinton once played saxophone on Arsenio Hall's show

As I am not as perspicacious as some of my fellow denizens of this board could you please elaborate on your observation.

My inference from what you wrote is that a certain group of people would vote for a woman simply because her husband plays an instrument.

And if my inference is correct what does that say about what you think about that group?

Thank you in advance.

[NightWatcher]

22. And Hillary's new found Black-cent every time she comes south

The Clintons have bamboozled African Americans into thinking they are their pals, while their policies have actually hurt the community. From slashing welfare programs to increased detention and cozying up with the private prison complex, the Clintons have not been a friend to African Americans.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. Why would you assign a paucity of intellectual acuity to an entire group...

Why would you assign a paucity of intellectual acuity to an entire group while arrogating an abundance of it to yourself?

[NightWatcher]

30. I know who got a Word A Day calendar for Christmas.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. I see by your sig line that you hold yourself out as a man or woman of science.

Given that ...

You seem to believe you get it. They don't. Obviously you see some kind of failing on their part. After all, you suggested the mere playing of an instrument is enough to win their allegiance. Do you believe this intellectual failing is genetic or environmental or some combination of the two?

[geek tragedy]

41. so you think black americans are gullible and stupid

and that all it takes to get their vote is some dumb pandering?

[NightWatcher]

42. Well, the Clintons' policies hurt the AA community yet they keep supporting them

So I guess they are falling for the accent and the act.

Why else does the AA community support the Clintons more than Sanders?

[geek tragedy]

44. here's some good reading for you.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/3/1492931/-Why-black-voters-vote-the-way-they-do-and-advice-on-how-to-win-them

P.S you are being grotesquely insulting to black voters. Not going to engage with you further, other than to say people such as yourself probably cost Sanders votes in the black community

[Democrats Ascendant]

15. She did it by winning with enormous margins

including in some very large, delegate-rich states, like FL, TX, and GA.

[Sancho]

16. She has about 2.5 million more votes than Bernie now...

but she also has concentrated on winning delegates; something she learned from Obama. She had more votes than Obama in 2008 in the primary, but fewer delegates.

Right now, she has more votes, more delegates, and more endorsements than Bernie. If there was a mercy rule in politics they would call off this primary.

[bigtree]

21. pointing this out has been called racebaiting by many Sanders supporters here

...not surprising you missed this, brushing past those stunning victories.

There is a sizable contingent of voters in the South whose solidarity behind Hillary Clinton more resembles a movement than any other group of voters in this primary.

That popular relationship she has with the black community in the South and elsewhere has advantaged her campaign of a dependable and solid mass of votes, especially in southern region because of a polarization of voters and the huge majority of registered blacks in many of the southern states.


Sahil Kapur ‏@sahilkapur 18h18 hours ago
Sanders again says he lost in the south because it’s “conservative.” Not really—he lost because there are a lot of black voters there.

[Rebkeh]

26. Because she has been running for president for 20 years

She got a jump on everyone, not just Sanders.

[Hiraeth]

34. only twenty? .... feels like an eternity. so bored with her shit, I am.

[riversedge]

27. As President said--> Hillary is smart.

[dsc]

28. The delegates are doled out in part by Congressional district

and the south has some very, very Democratic districts. AL has one Democratic district it is plus 20. Arkansas has no Democratic districts. FL has 10 ranging from plus 3 to plus 33, GA has 4 plus 6, plus 16, plus 21 and plus 32. LA 1 district plus 23. MS 1 district plus13. NC 3 districts plus 19, 20, and 26. SC 1 district plus 21. TN 2 districts plus 5 and plus 25. TX 11 districts ranging from plus 5 to plus 27. VA 4 districts plus 8, 10, 15, and 16. All of those massively Democratic districts get more delegates than the typical district and many of them are majority black or hispanic meaning she tended to do well in them. Bernie only did well in a few of those districts and even then he didn't win them by anything like the margins Hillary had in the ones she won. In short, she earned those delegates by appealing to some of the most stalwart voters in our party and doing so effectively.

[Zynx]

43. They have a lot of people and she won them by a lot?

It's fairly simple.

[JI7]

46. Same Way Obama did in 2008

[Surya Gayatri]

47. Kick.