Clinton takes on Sanders’ Israel comments

[ericson00]

Here:

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton touted Israel’s right to defend itself after her Democratic opponent Bernie Sanders called Israel’s response against Hamas “disproportionate.”
In an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Clinton said that when “your soldiers are under attack, you have to respond.”

“Hamas provokes Israel. They often pretend to have people in civilian garb acting as though they are civilians who are Hamas fighters,” said Clinton. “It’s a very different undertaking for Israel to target those who are targeting them. And I think Israel has had to defend itself, has a right to defend itself.”

Sanders’ has been criticized from some Israeli officials for his comments on Israel during an interview with the New York Daily News, which included Sanders overestimating the number of civilians who were killed in the 2014 war between Hamas and Israel. The remarks have drawn a lot of attention as the two compete for Jewish-American voters, a significant bloc of voters in New York, site of an April 19 Democratic primary.

Thank you Hillary! Thanks for standing against Sanders' demagoguery, and with the Democratic and American mainstreams!

[Perogie]

1. Hillary loves war

They are great business opportunities.


http://www.ibtimes.com/campaign-2016-hillary-clinton-pitched-iraq-business-opportunity-us-corporations-2121999

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/9/30/1426522/-Hillary-Clinton-Pitched-Iraq-as-a-Business-Opportunity-For-US-Corporations


“It's time for the United States to start thinking of Iraq as a business opportunity," she said in a 2011 speech.

The quote was included in an email released by the State Department on Wednesday that specifically mentioned JPMorgan and Exxon Mobil. JPMorgan was selected by the U.S. government to run a key import-export bank in Iraq and in 2013 announced plans to expand its operations in the country. Exxon Mobil signed a deal to redevelop Iraqi oil fields. JPMorgan has collectively paid the Clintons and the Clinton Foundation at least $450,000 for speeches, and Exxon Mobil has donated over $1 million to the family’s foundation...

[beedle]

2. In Defence of Perpetual War

in the name of "defence" of course ... technically advanced 'remote slaughter' - or "Collateral damage" as murder-for-profit types like to call it.

[leveymg]

3. If US dealt with things like the Israeli's do, we'd have B-52s bombing Tijuana and the Bronx

Disproportionate? Who's to stop us?

Bernie, like Carter, diplomatically understates the problem.

[ericson00]

6. Mexico doesn't shoot rockets into our country nor tacitly condone it

the Palestinians do against the Jewish State of Israel, a state which the American people strongly support

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

8. The "Jewish State" has been steamrolling Palestine since long

before Hamas existed.

Israel is responsible for its own blowback in the same wsy the USA is.

But Israel's answer is to murder more Palestinians and take their land.

[leveymg]

15. How many Israelis have actually been killed by Palestinian rockets?

It's less than 20 over the years when I last checked. How many Palestinians have been killed by the Israelis during reprisal attacks? Thousands.

[notadmblnd]

4. Big money maker for her Foundation

She has to support more world violence.

[JackRiddler]

5. Clinton backs perpetual war for perpetual profiteering.

No surprise there - or that her New York strategy has now turned to the classic tropes of accusing the opponent of being soft on Israel.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

9. The Democratic establishment has been pressing

its nose up the Israeli backside for decades now.

It's strange since their leadership would rather have had Romney to enable their apartheid state.

[noretreatnosurrender]

7. I'm with Bernie & Yarmuth on this one

Congressman Praises Bernie Sanders’s Israel-Palestine Stance: “I Totally Agree With Him”

EARLIER THIS WEEK, Bernie Sanders laid out a position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that broke with U.S. political consensus, calling for a more balanced approach that recognizes both Israeli security and unfair treatment of Palestinians.

Few lawmakers have voiced similar views, even though Sanders’s position reflects a growing dissent on this issue among a new generation of Democratic voters. But this week, Kentucky Democratic Rep. John Yarmuth offered full support for Sanders’s position.

In remarks to The Intercept, Yarmuth praised Sanders for his stance, and explained why he thinks the U.S. needs a more nuanced policy.

“It’s certainly an honest appraisal of the situation to say that any attitude which is that Israel is always right and the Palestinians are always wrong is a dangerous attitude to have. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who are running for different offices who are comfortable in feeling that way or at least saying that, or implying that,” said the congressman. “No, I don’t think we can be constructive in that situation unless we recognize that we have to have an approach that recognizes reality. And the reality is that the Israelis have done a lot of provocative things as well as the Palestinians. Unless we find a way out of that tit-for-tat situation, it’s going to be hard to resolve.”

https://theintercept.com/2016/03/25/congressman-praises-bernie-sanderss-israel-palestine-stance-i-totally-agree-with-him/

[ericson00]

11. don't worry, myself and the millions of grassroots activists

will help challenge Yarmuth in the primaries and see it to that he doesn't get another term the next time we can.

[noretreatnosurrender]

12. Oh Really?

You do realize that Yarmuth endorsed Clinton, don't you? Do you still want to primary him?

[EndElectoral]

10. Bernie is referencing Amnesty International's language.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/middle-east-and-north-africa/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/

https://www.rt.com/news/311164-amnesty-gaza-war-crimes/

Israeli forces committed “disproportionate” and “indiscriminate” attacks that killed “scores of civilians” in the city of Rafah, Gaza, Amnesty International said in a report which was immediately slammed as “fundamentally flawed” by Israel.

Between 135 and 200 civilians were killed in Rafah, the southernmost city in the Gaza Strip in an intensive use of firepower by Israel, which lasted from August 1 to 4, 2014, according to Amnesty International report dubbed ‘Black Friday: Carnage in Rafah’.

“There is overwhelming evidence that Israeli forces committed disproportionate, or otherwise indiscriminate, attacks which killed scores of civilians in their homes, on the streets and in vehicles and injured many more,” says the Amnesty, which together with Forensic Architecture, a research team from Goldsmiths, University of London have presented a detailed reconstruction of the events in the city.

[ericson00]

13. Amnesty International only acts like this on I/P

because if they didn't, the governments of neighboring countries would accuse them of being "Zionist agents" and not let them operate there.

Israel is the only free country in the Middle East, per the honourable Freedom House, an organization untainted.

[EndElectoral]

14. So now it's Amnesty International's fault? Good god.

[Octafish]

16. PNAC never left.

Neocon ‘Chaos Promotion’ in the Mideast

While Clark’s public exposé largely escaped attention in the neocon-friendly “mainstream media” (surprise, surprise!), he recounted being told by a senior general at the Pentagon shortly after the 9/11 attacks in 2001 about the Donald Rumsfeld/Paul Wolfowitz-led plan for “regime change” in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran. -- Ray McGovern

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/04/13/neocon-chaos-promotion-in-the-mideast/

[riderinthestorm]

17. Hillary is besties with war criminal Netanyahu who will be one of her 1st guests if shes President

I will do everything I can to enhance our strategic partnership and strengthen America’s security commitment to Israel, ensuring that it always has the qualitative military edge to defend itself. That includes immediately dispatching a delegation of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to meet with senior Israeli commanders. I would also invite the Israeli prime minister to the White House in my first month in office.

Read more: http://forward.com/opinion/national/324013/how-i-would-rebuild-ties-to-israel-and-benjamin-neta/#ixzz45RFApzWY

[tritsofme]

18. Hillary is very good on Israel issues. She will be a great friend to the Jewish state as president!

[Fawke Em]

23. I know. That's what scares me. eom

[azmom]

19. How does she square this with blacks folks

of the BLM movement? BLM came out in support of their black Palestinian brothers and sisters.

[ericson00]

21. when did this happen?

after all, BLM is kinda a decentralized movement.

[azmom]

22. I've read several articles on this, but

yes, it may be that all in the movement don't feel this way.

[Ferd Berfel]

20. She HAS to try an trash this because she wan't invited

It's a Yuuuge coup for Bernie and the working class.

[Fawke Em]

24. My husband is Jewish and he thinks Israel is behaving like Nazi Germany.

Many Jewish people aren't in lock-step with the right-wing Israeli government.