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This is why you shouldn't use victims of the tragedy of Sandy Hook for political gain... (Original Post) jillan Apr 2016 OP
Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2016 #1
What a sweet face. Punkingal Apr 2016 #2
. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #3
i agree but the reality is those families are dOing out on their own JI7 Apr 2016 #4
Yes but she is making it part of her campaign platform. She's done it at debates & is running with jillan Apr 2016 #12
and this is the candidate who DeGreg Apr 2016 #36
So do you condone making those deaths a campaign issue? nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #15
I certainly do anigbrowl Apr 2016 #37
she should have talked about it before her active campaign if she cares so much. and roguevalley Apr 2016 #43
Does anyone here have away to insure that Hillary and her team see this? awake Apr 2016 #5
Do you think this fucking distortion will have any impact on thinking human beings? Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #7
Awww... are you upset over her being called out for such disgusting tactics? tch-tch nt revbones Apr 2016 #8
Caring human beings will not use this tragedy for political gains. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #16
You mean, like like making political ads from pictures little girls who lost a loved one. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #18
I don't think there is such an ad. But in any case I here you saying that because the OP rhett o rick Apr 2016 #28
" I don't think there is such an ad." Very amusing. Obtuse much? Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #40
pathetic roguevalley Apr 2016 #44
Seriously. She looks like such a sweet girl. To exploit her in such a way is beyond pathetic. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #45
The difference: no one's trying to blame Hill for Sandy Hook. senz Apr 2016 #46
What a coincidence! HRC never, ever blamed Sanders for Sandy Hook. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #47
I have seen a reply to Hillary similar to this on Twitter BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #11
Right. Let's not exploit young children to make politican inroads... like you just did. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #6
Yeah, it's only ok for Hillary to exploit tragedy! rofl nt revbones Apr 2016 #9
Off-topic, but I think the appropiation of an image of Mary for political hedgehog Apr 2016 #10
Bummer. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #13
So angrychair Apr 2016 #14
It is a political issue dsc Apr 2016 #17
I hate guns but guns are legal. Unless a gun malfunctions why would we sue the manufacturer? jillan Apr 2016 #20
the fact is they conspired to evade gun control in states such as NY and MA dsc Apr 2016 #23
Some of us would like to change the law on how guns are sold and marketed anigbrowl Apr 2016 #38
I have news for you awake Apr 2016 #22
flat out false dsc Apr 2016 #25
"We also decided, that alone among industries, the gun industry can't be sued for their conduct no rhett o rick Apr 2016 #31
I think when the gun industry floods the market of states dsc Apr 2016 #34
It's a shame this needs to be said but it does. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #19
K&R Myrina Apr 2016 #21
The Clinton campaign has no shame and no boundaries. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #24
well hell, it's her turn - get out of the way Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #27
Clinton doesn't care... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #26
Annie Oakley has no shame. Nt azmom Apr 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Apr 2016 #30
While I fully accept the words of the father, and do condemn Clinton for trying to rhett o rick Apr 2016 #32
You mean cousin? bettyellen Apr 2016 #39
But it's so easy to do when.... DeGreg Apr 2016 #33
Funny how this is never mentioned in the media. jillan Apr 2016 #41
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #35
kick kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #42

JI7

(89,251 posts)
4. i agree but the reality is those families are dOing out on their own
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:39 PM
Apr 2016

They have been active on this issue before the primary also.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
12. Yes but she is making it part of her campaign platform. She's done it at debates & is running with
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:46 PM
Apr 2016
 

DeGreg

(72 posts)
36. and this is the candidate who
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:04 PM
Apr 2016

as sec of state had no problem selling 150+ billion dollars in arms to foreign countries during her tenure -- killing is killing I say, never mind the Foundation angle.

Really?

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
37. I certainly do
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:05 PM
Apr 2016

I think saying that some people's deaths shouldn't be discussed in public policy matters is exactly what organizations like the NRA want to see. They want to keep labeling it a 'tragedy' as if it were a natural disaster or something that could not have been avoided by policy changes.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
43. she should have talked about it before her active campaign if she cares so much. and
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 06:15 PM
Apr 2016

why wait 2-3 weeks before even mentioning Michael Brown's name in public? She doesn't care beyond utility.

awake

(3,226 posts)
5. Does anyone here have away to insure that Hillary and her team see this?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:39 PM
Apr 2016

Via her Twitter or Facebook acc or what ever it takes so they wake up and stop with this stupid cooled hearted grap that they keep doing if for no other reason than it turns new voters away from our party.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
18. You mean, like like making political ads from pictures little girls who lost a loved one.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:05 PM
Apr 2016

Like that?

Fargin' hypocrites.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
28. I don't think there is such an ad. But in any case I here you saying that because the OP
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:22 PM
Apr 2016

posted a picture, then that justifies H. Clinton a candidate for making this political. Is that the "he's doing it too" argument?

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
11. I have seen a reply to Hillary similar to this on Twitter
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:46 PM
Apr 2016

It might have been the same one.

I doubt she cares.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
6. Right. Let's not exploit young children to make politican inroads... like you just did.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:41 PM
Apr 2016

The stench of hypocrisy is staggering.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
10. Off-topic, but I think the appropiation of an image of Mary for political
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:45 PM
Apr 2016

purposes is also in bad taste (not to mention, very confusing).

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
14. So
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:51 PM
Apr 2016

Your criticizing them for criticizing you for criticizing them?

By virtue of your statement you have, at the very least, agreed that your candidate using the murder of children for political gain is wrong.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
17. It is a political issue
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:01 PM
Apr 2016

those children are dead because of terrible political decisions we have made. We made the decision to let anyone buy any gun at any time for any reason or no reason at all and then we are shocked, shocked I tell you that deranged nuts do what this deranged nut did. We also decided, that alone among industries, the gun industry can't be sued for their conduct no matter how much bad faith their actions show.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
20. I hate guns but guns are legal. Unless a gun malfunctions why would we sue the manufacturer?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:11 PM
Apr 2016

I wish we could get rid of all guns, but I also understand they are legal.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
23. the fact is they conspired to evade gun control in states such as NY and MA
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:17 PM
Apr 2016

they sold more guns than could ever be bought by Virginians to gun stores in VA who turned around and sold them to people who any one would know was being used as a straw purchaser and then lo and behold 2/3 of guns used in crimes up and down the east coast come from Virginia gun shops. They did the same thing with Indiana gun stores and Chicago. When they started being sued for this behavior they ran to Congress and got Congress to pass a law banning the suits.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
38. Some of us would like to change the law on how guns are sold and marketed
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:08 PM
Apr 2016

Because the status quo isn't working out so well for a lot of people.

awake

(3,226 posts)
22. I have news for you
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:12 PM
Apr 2016

The bill that Hillary keeps shitting on Bernie for voting for which protected gun manufactures from being sued also out outlawed the very type of gun that killed those children which was part of the reason Bernie voted for it.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
31. "We also decided, that alone among industries, the gun industry can't be sued for their conduct no
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:30 PM
Apr 2016

matter how much bad faith their actions show." Sorry, but having trouble making out what that sentence means. Seems you are saying that the industry can't be sued for bad faith actions. Have I got that correct?

This issue is being totally distorted. The gun industry isn't immune to being sued just like any other industry. The law made it not possible to single out the gun industry for liabilities that don't apply to any other industry.

Under what circumstances do you think the gun industry should be sued?

By the way, I am strongly pro-gun control.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
34. I think when the gun industry floods the market of states
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:45 PM
Apr 2016

that refused to control the sale of guns, such as VA, and then sit back and watch as 2/3 of the guns involved in crimes in cities up and down the east coast (such as Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York, and Boston to name four) come from those very gun stores they should be sued. I think they also should be sued when they fund a group which spends vast funds to stop VA from passing a law that reduces sales to one gun per month as they did.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
19. It's a shame this needs to be said but it does.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:07 PM
Apr 2016

There isn't anything Hillary's campaign won't exploit, just look at the 2008 primary for how low they're willing to go.

Response to jillan (Original post)

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
32. While I fully accept the words of the father, and do condemn Clinton for trying to
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:32 PM
Apr 2016

gain political points from the issue, I don't think it appropriate to include the girls photo. Seems we are fighting exploitation with exploitation.

 

DeGreg

(72 posts)
33. But it's so easy to do when....
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:43 PM
Apr 2016

you know what it feels like to sells arms to foreign countries to the tune of 150+ Billion Dollars, peddling the the big stuff (stuff that kills people) to the very people your Foundation and your hubby hit up or will hit up for contributions.

To vote for Hillary is to be okay with this shit.

So, say it out loud right now, if you're voting for Hillary, say it–– "I'm okay with this apparent conflict of interest, involving selling 150 Billion Dollars in arms, putting that many more "guns" in the world, and I'm okay with the Clinton Foundation garnering millions in donations as an apparent attachment to the deals."

It's not complicated.

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