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Rated TRUE: Hillary Clinton's claim that Bernie Sanders voted for the 'Charleston loophole' http://wpo.st/VndT1 #p2 #ImwithHER #gunsense
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Hillary Clintons claim that Bernie Sanders voted for the Charleston loophole
By Glenn Kessler January 14
(Jae C. Hong/AP)
You know, there was a loophole, my opponent voted for it, Senator Sanders, that at the end of three days, business days, you get that gun whether they have finished the background check or not. The killer in Charleston who brought that gun, if they had just spent a little more time, it wouldve been discovered, he should not have been able to buy the gun, because he had a federal record.
Former secretary of state Hillary Clinton, interview with CNN, Jan. 12, 2016
Clinton repeatedly has attacked her rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), on gun issues. It is potentially a ripe target, given that the rural-state lawmaker occasionally supported positions advocated by the National Rifle Association.
This statement jumped out at The Fact Checker, as Clinton is drawing a direct link between a vote taken by Sanders to a recent gun tragedy the June 17, 2015, killing of nine people by Dylann Roof at a historic black church in Charleston, S.C.
Is her criticism on target?
The Facts
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The vote in question took place almost a quarter-century ago, but there is a relatively straight line from the 1993 vote to the 2015 shooting.
While Sanders did not specifically vote for a three-day period, he did vote for an even shorter one-day window. As a result of the amendment he supported in the House, the seven-day window was erased by the instant background system and the time allowed for extensive background checks that emerged from House-Senate negotiations was just three days. Then Sanders ended up voting against requiring any background checks at all.
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Perogie
(687 posts)Hillary claims she's against Gay Marriage, Hillary claims Iraq had WMD and her vote to invade Iraq was the right vote. And my favorite Hillary's lies she was under sniper fire.
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riversedge
(70,282 posts)Perogie
(687 posts)Seems I have stayed on topic.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)and she never hesitates to cast the first stone.
riversedge
(70,282 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Perogie
(687 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Perogie
(687 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)running a campaign of integrity, lmao.
Perogie
(687 posts)Someone has to be mentally unbalance to make this up.
It also shows a pattern of her lying though out her career. Proof she is a pathological liar.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)JudyM
(29,265 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)oasis
(49,400 posts)Perogie
(687 posts)mcar
(42,372 posts)is untrustworthy gets "truth" on so many fact checks and the one we are told is honest and noble gets lots of Pinocchios.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)according to the fact checker.
And Bernie deserves his condemnation from the families of children murdered at Sandy Hook for supporting the gun manufacturer against them. Also condemnation for arranging to send Vermont's nuclear waste to poison a poor little town in Texas. Then there's the rest of his 25 years in national politics...
There are no "perfect," unsullied candidates. Only one some like to imagine is.
Perogie
(687 posts)40% of cluster bomb victims are CHILDREN.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/21/425303/-
http://legaciesofwar.org/resources/cluster-bomb-fact-sheet/
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)various ways. They are both modern American politicians operating at the national level. GET IT?
CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Dirty politics!
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid