This language is not acceptable.

[fun n serious]

https://twitter.com/tomwatson/status/720405433513455617

[Stallion]

1. I'm for the Democrat

nm

[Kalidurga]

2. What other language do you want to ban?

Do you want to make jokes about CPT for example unacceptable?

[fun n serious]

3. So you this is OK?

Stay on topic

[Kalidurga]

4. I don't care

I have seen enough crap from Hillarians I don't care what comes from some random twitter user. And I don't ban language I talk to people about why what they said is offensive. If they don't want to change their way of speaking well they are people I am done talking to.

[fun n serious]

10. It was a speaker at Sanders Rally

not a random twitter user

[Kalidurga]

15. Yeah still don't care

When every word from Camp Weather-vane is to defend the status quo. The status quo is killing my people. Some words from a rally not so much.

[AgerolanAmerican]

52. Yeah it is, get over it.

this is common language and it doesn't have the connotations people are trying to pin on him

I'm sure you have used the term in the exact same way at one point. I have, many times, and so does pretty much everyone else who talks honestly about political corruption.

[fun n serious]

54. He was speaking about Hillary in the same paragraph..

We're binding together and writing to his employer.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

68. It's just fine with me, but then again, I'm not Soviet.

[Bonobo]

5. When describing something bad, it's common to use pejorative terms. Hold on, I got something for you

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. Would prostitute be more acceptable for someone who takes money from corporations?

[pa28]

7. *Gasp*

I guess he can kiss the whore vote goodbye.

[Prism]

11. Nah, I'm still voting for him n/t

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

21. If that includes gay whores he can still count on my GE vote

Already gave him my vote in GA! And got my whole family to feel the Bern, even a few repukes

[Avalon Sparks]

57. Your posts always make me smile!

Cheers!

[LadyHawkAZ]

22. Think again n/t

[restorefreedom]

8. hillary's team knows how to use language too

racist
sexist
antisemite
gun supporter
communist
misogynist
unqualified
opportunist
LIAR

so if we are going there, lets go there on both sides, k?

[Segami]

12. Somehow, I missed all those apologies....

[restorefreedom]

63. i know, right? crickets, always cricket. nt

[nichomachus]

80. She will release the apologies along with her transcripts nt

[TM99]

9. Why?

Here is the actual quote --

"Medicare for All will never happen if we continue to elect corporate Democratic whores who are beholden to Big Pharma and the private insurance industry instead of us."

I don't disagree in the least with Dr. Song. Quid pro quo is what 'corporate whoring' is all about. It happens on the left and it happen on the right.

Instead of getting worked up over a word used in a very specific context, how about we get worked up over being one of the few civilized nations that does NOT have medical care for all of its citizens. How about we get worked up over how much Big Pharma jacks up prices here in the US on drugs that are sold elsewhere for far less. How about we get worked up over how the ACA is a huge give-away to the corporate insurance industry and we still have millions with out health insurance, we are still paying more per capita than any other nation in the world for medical services, and we are rapidly plummeting to the bottom in the world for how unhealthy our populace has become because of this.

That is much more 'not acceptable' to me than a damned word.

[Kalidurga]

17. Thank you I agreed with you before I read your post.

[Scuba]

43. Finally, some sanity.

[Lucinda]

13. Melissa McEwan posted the quote and who said it here:

The speaker who used "corporate whores" at Sanders event is Dr. Paul Song; here's a transcription of the full quote.

[fun n serious]

20. Yes, It's disgusting nt

"Elect Democratic whores." I wonder who he was talking about?

[TM99]

26. Why wonder?

He said congress members in another Tweet. But honestly if the quid pro quo corporate label fits?

[passiveporcupine]

41. I'm not sure I'd have used that phrase, but

You are being disingenuous when you truncate what he said to democratic whore. He said "Corporate Democratic Whore", and the important term is "corporate whore" who happen to be democrats. We do have democrats in the part who are beholden to corporations, and many people call that being a corporate whore. Whore does not just mean a female sex worker.

There are three main uses of whore...a female prostitute, a male prostitute, or the usage here which is...

debase oneself by doing something for unworthy motives, typically to make money.

The third definition is not about sex or gender, it's about just what it says, and I do think this country has become a bit too sensitive or politically correct, when valid definitions can no longer be applied and words not used because someone might try to make it about demeaning women. What about male whores? Is it only women whom we need to protect by never saying anything they might take the wrong way?

[fun n serious]

45. He was speaking about Hillary in the sentence before this one.

You are one of the FEW who doesn't care...

https://twitter.com/paulysong/status/720416305699024898

[passiveporcupine]

46. It doesn't matter who he was referring to

I think he was referring to more than her.

It still does not mean he wasn't using the last definition of the word.

And after looking at your transparency page, I'm wondering why you would be offended with anything ANYONE says. Seriously...this is too funny.

[riderinthestorm]

48. Finger wagging over profanity?! Says the poster with 15 hides?

[noretreatnosurrender]

58. Corporate Democratic Whores

is plural not singular. Now I know Hillary is two-faced but you really think this was just about Hillary? No, of course you don't and please stop dropping the word "Corporate" from the quote like the guy on Twitter did. I know saying Democratic whores fits better with your narrative but he didn't say that. He said Corporate Democratic Whores. Get it right.

[beam me up scottie]

14. I agree, it's an insult to sex workers to compare them to corrupt politicians!

Sw are honest and work hard for their money.

[Kalidurga]

19. And they are exploited in the worst ways

Corporations and their lackeys not so much.

[beam me up scottie]

23. Yes they are, they're not selling themselves for millions to special interests.

Or for future positions in the ranks.

[reformist2]

16. It's totally acceptable. It's what any politician who takes big money really is.

[Kalidurga]

24. We have to end legalized bribery

[Dem2]

18. My kid says it was this guy

I guess his name is Dr. Paul Song

[beam me up scottie]

25. It's been acceptable to call people media and corporate whores on DU for years.

Why do you automatically think it's misogynistic?

[TM99]

28. Media Whores Online

was a frequently sourced site on DU during a good portion of the Bush years, certainly his first term.

It is just another distraction. Get worked up over 'corporate Democratic whores' but get a pass for bringing superpredator black kids to heel, Bill's dismissal of the BLM, and Clinton participating in a racist CPT skit.

Just a fucking game!

[beam me up scottie]

31. Yep. Hillary supporters are desperately trying to find something to deflect from Hillary's "joke".

It's like watching kids try out for the school play, so much DRAMA!!!

[bvf]

27. I practically sprained my thumb just now

going through your transparency page to get a handle on your idea of "acceptable."

Please continue.

[TM99]

30. Yeah, what are they up to now?

16 hides? Going for a new record while lecturing the community on what is acceptable or not?

Fucking precious!

[beam me up scottie]

32. Lol!

[m-lekktor]

37. ROFL nt

[passiveporcupine]

49. Oh my

You know, every time I see a really nasty response to a post, I check the poster's transparency page, and it's amazing how many time those with the longest lists of hides are offended by much milder language from others.

This is getting to be another one of those really amusing threads. There are so many right now, I can't even keep track of them any more.

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. Here is the full quote

:large

And the origin of the term "corporate whore"

Am amazed your ears have not come across it before

corporate whore
One who has sold more than their labor to the corporation; one who has forsaken personal values and constitution for corporate $$; meaning of "whore" belittled when preceded by the word “corporate”; person who will sell their soul for $$.
My efforts are not driven by my passion for work, but by my own gluttony, my addition to money. I have become what I once despised—forsaken myself, sacrificed my values at the corporate alter of greed. I am a corporate whore.
by Syllabus September 28, 2003

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=corporate+whore

You know where I was introduced to the term? Oh my delicate ears. AT DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND, circa 2003... it was also used by a now defunct website, a variation of it, called MEDIA WHORES ONLINE.

By the way, the term was used for George Dubya Bush at first...

Oh and it was used at Zucotti Park by OCCUPY WALL STREET.

[840high]

50. Thanks Nadin.

[nadinbrzezinski]

53. Anything but issues (ABI) And it is getting more than just transparent.

[JoePhilly]

64. So Bernie should adopt this term?

His supporters seem to like it.

Think that would be a good idea?

Or is Bernie not being authentic by saying it's not appropriate?

[nadinbrzezinski]

65. You do understand the term is older than the campaign

How about the open Antisemitism from Hillary surrogates? Lemme see,a term DU'ers have used for a long time...or no longer coded Antisemitism. Some of that even here? You really want to go there?

[JoePhilly]

66. Should Bernie apply the term to Hillary?

Yes, or No?

Maybe tonight at the debate he should argue that the term is (a) ok to use, and (b) appropriately applied to Hillary.

Good idea?

Yes, or No?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

69. While your suggestion is completely idiotic, we Sanders supporters are free to make whatever

associations we want to make. Just because you don't see us openly saying things here doesn't mean we don't enjoy full rights to speech and thought elsewhere.

[JoePhilly]

72. I'm encouraging you to say EXACTLY what you

want to say.

But apparently Bernie won't be joining you.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

73. You'd like that, wouldn't you?

[JoePhilly]

74. I absolutely would like that.

Whether you do so is totally up to you.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

75. I'm completely free with my opinion in venues that don't control speech.

I'm just a little more careful here. The way it goes.

[JoePhilly]

76. From what I see, you can call Hillary that phrase, and worse ..

... and not only will you not get a HIDE, you'd get 100 recs.

Not sure what you're worried about.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

77. You're seeing restraint. Take it or leave it.

[JoePhilly]

78. That's fine ... but no one is censoring you.

[nadinbrzezinski]

70. When Sanders does call me

By the way, none meant HRC by name...try reading the full statement as many times as you need to. Obviously you will need to do such a few times. I heard the exact same language at Occupy and read the same fucking language at DU. Media Whores online even used it as a fucking domain name.

But one of his surrogates compared the Rally to a Nazi rally. I doubt really you understand how ignorant and insulting that is. Or posters here are defacing the Jesus of the Bleeding heart (anti-Catholic) with the face of Bernie Sanders (blood libel). By the way, that meets community standards. So spare me.

Should Hillary supporters engage in open anti-semitism? Apparently the answer is well, yes of course.

Dog whistle 101...it should not be something I can hear

As I said, you really want to go there?

[JoePhilly]

71. Listened to the entire statement.

So did Bernie which is why he denounced it.

And your rambling response to my direct question was pretty much what I expected.

[nadinbrzezinski]

81. And you tolerating pretty open anti-semitism

Is what I expected, so we are even

[JoePhilly]

82. Why are you lying about me.

I have never made a statement supporting or even tolerating antisemitism.

Post a link to ANY statement I have ever made that supports or tolerates antisemitism. I hear you are great at research.

Of course no such posts exist .... so you should really just delete your lie about me.

[nadinbrzezinski]

83. You said that was a rambling post

I pointed to it. Usually when people are told where they are. And usually they are not dismissed. So it is what it is

[mike_c]

33. this has made me search my soul and reconsider my support for Senator Sanders....

OK. I got over it.

[Autumn]

34. Run over to that rally and kick their heathen asses!!! Do not walk, RUN!!

And Call Congress RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!

Context is everything and vitally important in communication. He's right you know, with what he said

"Medicare for All will never happen if we continue to elect corporate Democratic whores who are beholden to Big Pharma and the private insurance industry instead of us."

[artislife]

35. Hurry, bring the fainting couch...

[Else You Are Mad]

36. And the...

Faux outraged from Hillary supporters continues. I am getting tired of everything Bernie and his campaign does somehow turns into something he needs to apologize for.

Is there anything that Sanders and his supporters do that won't result in bouts of faux-rage? Wait until the debate tomorrow... I bet if Sanders looks at Hillary he will be sexist and needs to apologize.

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. I thik the only thing that will make these fanatics happy is if every sanders

supporter, or reporter that honestly reports on this shit... disappears. The same goes for the Senator

[TM99]

42. Well we will disappear alright...

come November if she is the Democratic nominee.

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. From what I am hearing in the field

BOTH parties might have issues. So we might see LOW TURNOUT every where. Now some here might celebrate... but the implications for civil disobedience could be impressive.

[tralala]

38. It's fine

[Broward]

40. Don't worry, everything is going to be ok.

[Armstead]

44. It's impolite in a political campaign, but the term has been used for years

The phrase "corporate whores" and "media whores" has been common on DU for years. as well as in the larger population. Has nothing to do specifically with Clinton or her gender.

So IMO it should not be used in the context of mainstream politics --- But also I could take this sudden surge of gentility more seriously if it were not simply being used as a cudgel against someone who has the temerity to run against Clinton in this primary.

[Joob]

51. Corporate whores sell themselves to corporations for profit. Men or Women.

Both would be equal in my disgust.

[noretreatnosurrender]

55. Ahhhh

they left out the word corporate....Corporate Democratic Whores. I guess that word had to be removed so that they could make their narrative a little more tidy.

Hell even that Hillary shill site Blue Nation got that part right.

REACTION: Speaker at Bernie NYC Rally Refers to ‘Corporate Democratic Whores’

http://bluenationreview.com/speaker-at-bernie-nyc-rally-refers-to-corporate-democratic-whores/

[Goblinmonger]

56. 16 posts hidden. Yeah, let's take advice about what's acceptable

From someone with 16 hides. That's rich.

[Petrushka]

59. If the shoe fits . . . etc.

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[apcalc]

60. I find the language totally unacceptable BUT

the real irony here is that some of Song's
"Democratic corporate whores" are probably superdelegates .

Oops

[Logical]

61. Lazy? Paste the damn comment. Nt

[jmg257]

62. Why not? Illuminating "corporate whores" who are supposed to represent the people

but instead exchange favors for money seems VERY acceptable.

Trade favors for money, get a bad rep.

[Orsino]

67. Corporate whoring is the the bigger problem...

...but I agree that when the Drooling Right has reflexively used the word "whore" against Hillary Clinton for decades, our separate point ought to be made in more elevated terms.

Women ought not to get a pass, but let's be absolutely clear about whom we're accusing of doing exactly what.

[reddread]

79. Mayberry strikes again