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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:22 AM Apr 2016

Bernie supporters compared to Nazis! Well at least the ones that were at Washington Park


Here is his tweet, that he deleted. Funny how Bernie supporters did their research and took a screenshot. And it is going viral.

Tom Watson is a Hillary Surrogate who along with Peter Daou founded #Hillarymen
http://www.hillarymen.com/



More anti-semitic bull crap being thrown around.

Edited to add - what makes this especially disgusting is Bernie's father's family members were killed in the Holocaust.


Hillary - We want an apology.
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Bernie supporters compared to Nazis! Well at least the ones that were at Washington Park (Original Post) jillan Apr 2016 OP
He apologized already. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #1
Where? jillan Apr 2016 #2
He didn't apologize. Assholes don't apologize. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #7
Really? Can't figure it out? geek tragedy Apr 2016 #9
Well please let the Hillary supporters know the person who said "corporate whores" apologized too. GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #3
But his supporters here are still posting it and making excuses. n/t JTFrog Apr 2016 #79
They aren't the guy who said it... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #80
A woman said it. Admiral Loinpresser Apr 2016 #83
Who gives a fuck if he apologized? Not accepted. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #4
Of course not. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #12
Calling people Nazi's for no reason.... daleanime Apr 2016 #39
Did I do that? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #43
Not many sins are unforgiveable. But purgatory won't last as long if you'll come to your senses. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Biaviians Apr 2016 #18
Do you know who you're talking to? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #38
my mistake! Biaviians Apr 2016 #45
No problem. It was a Hillary surrogate who apologized, and I didn't like the insincere apology. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author one_voice Apr 2016 #59
Song apologized too. Didn't stop you from making multiple threads and comments. nt Bonobo Apr 2016 #8
I just looked at his twitter and saw no apology. But it is "wiped clean"! nt Bonobo Apr 2016 #10
Make sure you say hello while you're there @tomwatson jillan Apr 2016 #13
That's idiot speak for apologizing. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #14
I would have replied, no Tom, no one was handing out "armbands", but were you sir handing out these Dragonfli Apr 2016 #26
How long is it going to take for you to finally release all your pent up anger that must have built cui bono Apr 2016 #56
"How long is it going to take for you to finally release all your pent up anger..." BeanMusical Apr 2016 #66
Because this is exactly what Skinner wants. He wants rude and abusive Hillary supporters to rule DU. cui bono Apr 2016 #81
Yes, you're absolutely right. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #84
He must realize it because he didn't put the donor graph on the site during the last fund drive. cui bono Apr 2016 #85
I won't cry when he reaps what he sowed. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #86
What even made his mind come up with such a concept for a tweet? LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #70
The general tone of Bernie's speakers at his rally nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #71
Because calling someone a corporate whore is the same as killing 6 million Jews Prism Apr 2016 #89
I did not make the comment, and the person has since retracted and apologized nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #90
You realize I have eyes, yes? Prism Apr 2016 #91
No, I said no such thing. If you honestly believe that, you need to bone up on your geek tragedy Apr 2016 #93
You did say such a thing. Let's review the words three inches away upthread Prism Apr 2016 #94
the part where you don't understand the difference between explaining and justifying. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #95
Oh, we're done Prism Apr 2016 #96
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Apr 2016 #74
But did Hillary apologize? Hillary needs to apologize for him. nt nichomachus Apr 2016 #77
When he introduces her at a public rally using that kind of language, absolutely geek tragedy Apr 2016 #78
That is truly beyond the pale, I can't wait to hear the spin on what this Hillbully said. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #5
"Disqualify, Defeat... CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #44
They called us Nazis, brown shirts and even said we're 'night riders'. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #47
That should unite the Bernie supporters... Skwmom Apr 2016 #6
We were united long ago, and not because of crap like this. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 #11
+1000 Hydra Apr 2016 #17
We've been United for months CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #31
I think they are having an emotional meltdown because Bernie had such a huge rally! m-lekktor Apr 2016 #15
I agree, even more so than usual. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #19
"hard workers" is racist codespeak now? m-lekktor Apr 2016 #22
Yep, amazing in'it? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #25
Team Hill leadership has only occasionally been well focused Hydra Apr 2016 #21
I thought they were ahead in the polls. lol m-lekktor Apr 2016 #28
Ya, they were pretty sure they had things sewn up 9 contests ago Hydra Apr 2016 #32
Where is Hillary's apology? HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #16
The Hillarys of the world NEVER apologize for anything. Baobab Apr 2016 #63
And when some of her fans try to apologize... BeanMusical Apr 2016 #65
Did you see this from their website? Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #20
Oh isn't that special? jillan Apr 2016 #23
Poor fugly old dude. Peregrine Took Apr 2016 #24
Sick and evil CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #27
So true... BeanMusical Apr 2016 #67
this is anti-Semitic hate speech! It is a crime! And scary! Notice that amborin Apr 2016 #29
It was disgusting anti-semitic filth. jillan Apr 2016 #34
Anti-Semitism. Behind the Aegis Apr 2016 #30
Outing themselves all over the place... beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #33
Well, some are...others...well... Behind the Aegis Apr 2016 #37
Yep, they've been ... out for quite some time. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #41
Well, I saw in another thread, Clinton has wrapped up the Jewish vote in NY... Behind the Aegis Apr 2016 #42
You=Bad ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #50
Heeheee....I am such a pixie! Behind the Aegis Apr 2016 #61
Oh did you? That should be FASCINATING... beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #51
You know me...always starting stuff.... Behind the Aegis Apr 2016 #62
BINGO nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #36
Do you think the guy is that smart, that he made all the connections? delrem Apr 2016 #58
No idea. I don't know him from Adam. Behind the Aegis Apr 2016 #60
Yah, I know your view. delrem Apr 2016 #64
Well that was shared on my timeline nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #35
He's the genius who said "Who can be more of an outsider than a woman president." m-lekktor Apr 2016 #48
Did Bernie apologize for the whore remark? workinclasszero Apr 2016 #49
Unfortunately the person who said it did. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #54
Really shows Hillaryites true colors. wholly crap are they shakin in their boots. Same litlbilly Apr 2016 #52
they are jumping up and down for posting more and more nonsense. Whatever floats their boat litlbilly Apr 2016 #53
Wow, that's over the top weird. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #68
reminds me of Hillary with all the fake facebook and twiter followers. Just crank up the fake litlbilly Apr 2016 #76
Projection Hieronymus Apr 2016 #55
Funny. Turns out HillaryMen are the REAL BernieBros! cui bono Apr 2016 #57
YES! jillan Apr 2016 #75
Godwhore's Law demanded it. nt mhatrw Apr 2016 #69
Completely insensitive. Clinton should apologize. Barack_America Apr 2016 #72
Apart from the Nazi reference BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #73
There were 1-12,000 tops #berniemath Tarc Apr 2016 #87
#derpymath ^^ frylock Apr 2016 #97
This is sad. glinda Apr 2016 #82
K & R AzDar Apr 2016 #88
Pretty insensitive considering Bernie lost loved ones in the holocaust. NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #92
well wait, is he comparing them to the Nazis or the victims? treestar Apr 2016 #98
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. He apologized already.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:24 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:28 AM - Edit history (1)

Now you all can go back to thinking up new ways to insult Hillary Clinton.

Edited to add: his apology was cleverly hidden right on his Twitter account:

https://mobile.twitter.com/tomwatson/status/720416705533517824

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
7. He didn't apologize. Assholes don't apologize.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:27 AM
Apr 2016

Such a shitty Tweet, people like that don't apologize or admit fault.

Look at Bill Clinton, for example, just recently, with BLM.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
80. They aren't the guy who said it...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:46 AM
Apr 2016

I'm a whore and his comment didn't offend me, so I personally don't think he should apologize

In the context of this thread people offended should take the apology and move on.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
83. A woman said it.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:49 PM
Apr 2016

Killer Mike was quoting that woman. You can find KM's explanation by googling "Killer Mike The View." It's on Youtube.

There are corporate whores all over TV and radio. Just tune in to any major network or NPR and chances are the first person you hear will be a corporate whore. Maybe we should sanitize the phrase by using "Oligarchic Sex Worker."

Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #4)

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
38. Do you know who you're talking to?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:54 AM
Apr 2016

I support Senator Bernie Sanders--the only candidate who isn't thoroughly corrupt.

Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #38)

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
14. That's idiot speak for apologizing.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:32 AM
Apr 2016

Jury disclaimer: I am referencing Tom Watson and not a DUer here.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
26. I would have replied, no Tom, no one was handing out "armbands", but were you sir handing out these
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:41 AM
Apr 2016


To those in the crowd that looked like a "certain type of person" and demanding they sow them on their jackets?

Sometimes the the card one is handing out, is handed right back to you Mr Watson. (this is a note to the jury, my comments are directed towards and regarding specifically the author of the horrid and historically antisemitic accusation he tweeted, and not directed at or implied to be directed at anybody on this site.) I would have said the same thing to any hateful skinhead or neo-nazi that spoke similarly

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
56. How long is it going to take for you to finally release all your pent up anger that must have built
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:18 AM
Apr 2016

up from holding back all those months when you pretended to be a Bernie supporter?

Or is it just that now that there's no time outs you feel like you should just let 'er rip? Maybe it's a combination... did you come out of the political closet when the time out rule was lifted?

I mean really, 12 hides??? Sheesh. Get a grip.

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BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
66. "How long is it going to take for you to finally release all your pent up anger..."
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:13 AM
Apr 2016

Nooo! A sudden release of all that negative energy at once would make the Hiroshima nuke look like a wet firecracker in comparison!

12 hides, really? So in theory geek owes Skinner 180 days of suspension. Well, it would be fun if it worked that way but I wonder why their account is not flagged for review? Like MiniVanilla who's been flagged since December. Not that they are not currently posting with another account though.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
81. Because this is exactly what Skinner wants. He wants rude and abusive Hillary supporters to rule DU.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:15 PM
Apr 2016

I have not seen one Hillary supporter on here actually want to discuss issues above all else. It's all about catapulting the propaganda and we can't silence Hillary supporters!!! Skinner doesn't care how rude they are or that they add nothing to policy discussion. Discussing issues would just hurt Hillary and the mudslinging smearmongering they do is click bait.

You'll notice most of the vocal Hillary supporters have more than 5 hides, many more than 10.

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BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
84. Yes, you're absolutely right.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:02 PM
Apr 2016

I wonder if Skinner realizes that he's destroying DU in the process? Not that this ship hasn't been sinking for a while now, many great posters have left in disgust. Or have been banned.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
85. He must realize it because he didn't put the donor graph on the site during the last fund drive.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:11 PM
Apr 2016

I think he knew he had lost a lot of support. I never donated that much but I certainly decided not to donate based on him running a biased site in favor of people who behave like teabaggers.

.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
89. Because calling someone a corporate whore is the same as killing 6 million Jews
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:38 PM
Apr 2016

So amazon has personal recording devices for cheap. You can even get keychain ones for around $10.

The next time this kind of thought crosses your mind, on a whim, just throw it at the recorder. Then play it back. If it still seems like a good idea, well, very well then.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
91. You realize I have eyes, yes?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:42 PM
Apr 2016

I can see where you agreed that the "tone" of the Sanders campaign deserved comparison with Nazis.

Wait. Which one of us is high right now? This is getting difficult to discern.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
93. No, I said no such thing. If you honestly believe that, you need to bone up on your
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:46 PM
Apr 2016

vocabulary.

Go ahead and quote the language where I said that. You won't because I didn't.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
94. You did say such a thing. Let's review the words three inches away upthread
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:54 PM
Apr 2016

In response to a twitter comment about Bernie's followers wearing armbands (Nazi comparison), we got this response.

"What even made his mind come up with such a concept for a tweet?"

Meaning, why on earth would someone compare Bernie supporters with Nazis.

And then you came in with:

"The general tone of Bernie's speakers at his rally"

Meaning, you thought the general tone of Bernie's speakers earned a comparison with Nazis.

Which part of basic human communication are you disputing here?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
95. the part where you don't understand the difference between explaining and justifying.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 05:01 PM
Apr 2016

cause/effect language is not the same as normative phraseology such as "earn."

hit the books until you're able to understand the difference, until then we're done.




 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
96. Oh, we're done
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 05:16 PM
Apr 2016

Because you think being cute is ace until you're called out, and then you scamper back into a cloud of "explanations"

You cosigned the sentiment that Bernie supporters deserved Nazi comparison. You can own that now. And I will make sure you do for awhile. Because I'm bored and you're trolling.

Toodles!

Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
78. When he introduces her at a public rally using that kind of language, absolutely
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:37 AM
Apr 2016

she will need to disown his remarks.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
5. That is truly beyond the pale, I can't wait to hear the spin on what this Hillbully said.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:26 AM
Apr 2016

He should be publicly shamed by his fellow supporters.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
44. "Disqualify, Defeat...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:01 AM
Apr 2016

Unify."

Unify? If rather be dipped in honey and lowered into a mound of fire ants.

You know this is how they routinely talk about Bernie supporters and refer to us. The Hillarians wrote us off months ago.

Tom Watson's remarks reflect the exact contempt and mocking that all Bernie supporters experience on DU every day.

Unify this!

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
31. We've been United for months
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:48 AM
Apr 2016

and now we're just disgusted.

If you are a decent person, you'd be disgusted too.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
15. I think they are having an emotional meltdown because Bernie had such a huge rally!
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:35 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary supporters are completely off their fucking rockers tonight!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
19. I agree, even more so than usual.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:36 AM
Apr 2016

You can smell the desperation, just look at the ops - cray cray on display.


beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
25. Yep, amazing in'it?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:41 AM
Apr 2016

Considering it's coming from the candidate of "hard working white Americans" it's even more outrageous.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
21. Team Hill leadership has only occasionally been well focused
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:38 AM
Apr 2016

Mostly when they are winning by large margins. This is a full scale panic, and has been since Hillary had the meltdown with the Greenpeace girl.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
32. Ya, they were pretty sure they had things sewn up 9 contests ago
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:49 AM
Apr 2016

But they came the calls for Bernie to drop out, and I asked the question here a few times, "What do they know that we don't? It can't be good for their team."

Still haven't seen the iceburg yet, but losing all of those states by such a wide margin is just more bad news for them.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
63. The Hillarys of the world NEVER apologize for anything.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:23 AM
Apr 2016

Apology is not in their language.

How can God apologize when He is never wrong!?

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
65. And when some of her fans try to apologize...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:46 AM
Apr 2016

(after having been caught spewing antisemitic crap, for example)... they are not really good at it.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
20. Did you see this from their website?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:37 AM
Apr 2016
The #HillaryMen project is unaffiliated with Hillary for America. We encourage fact based advocacy and do not condone personal attacks against Hillary's political opponents or the media

They make some exceptions, evidently.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
27. Sick and evil
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:43 AM
Apr 2016

A Nazi reference when our candidate is Jewish and his family members were victims of the Holocaust.

What a piece of shit Tim Watson is.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
29. this is anti-Semitic hate speech! It is a crime! And scary! Notice that
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:44 AM
Apr 2016

this individual is acting in a blatantly anti-Semitic way, like a hateful skinhead Nazi, yet he is accusing innocent Bernie supporters of being Nazis. That's been the strategy all along: accuse the innocent opponent of your own crimes or criminality.

This is totally unacceptable. He needs to be arrested and charged.

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
30. Anti-Semitism.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:47 AM
Apr 2016

It is amazing how so many poeple whine and moan about the Jews always "palying the Holocaust card", but then there are assholes like this who seem to invoke Holocaust/Nazi imagery against Jews or Jewish interests.

Stay tuned. More to come.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
41. Yep, they've been ... out for quite some time.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:56 AM
Apr 2016

I'm waiting for the usual suspects to show up and tell us this isn't really anti-Semitic and ask us to point out the bigotry, after which they'll insist we're imagining things.

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
42. Well, I saw in another thread, Clinton has wrapped up the Jewish vote in NY...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:00 AM
Apr 2016

...I asked for someone to 'splain it all to me.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
58. Do you think the guy is that smart, that he made all the connections?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:23 AM
Apr 2016

It reads to me like the guy was playing the standard "Sanders=Trump and their supporters are identical" smear of "the extremes", the smear of "their supporters" which is the same meme as "Berniebros" and it has worked, at least so far. It's pretty easy to connect Trump with Nazi standards so the carry-over is more obvious the dimmer a person is, and this guy went there by force of habit. Then deleted.

So far there's been nothing of that nature played against Sanders that's anywhere close to the Rev. Wright, the "birther/muslim/Kenya" stuff and so on played against Obama. That was wicked and continues to be wicked. I have no doubt that Sanders' Jewish identity will begin to be played with a lot more professionalism than this clumsy oaf played this line. I'm assuming here that Sanders continues his wins, to show his political strength.

Perhaps this will be a time for education. After all, Hillary Clinton has expressed her closeness to Israel and Netanyahu both, and Netanyahu represents a right-wing incarnation of the country, so it's hard for me to see how an anti-Semitic card could be effectively played by her. I expect the Republicans will play it, though. You betcha if they run with Trump going for his ultimate "win" (that's Trump's only concept, repeated over and over, he's in it for the joy and self-aggrandizement of being a winner).

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
60. No idea. I don't know him from Adam.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:15 AM
Apr 2016

Whether he is doing like you opine, or is something more nefarious is irrelevant to me; it is still anti-Semitic.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
64. Yah, I know your view.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:33 AM
Apr 2016

I was just explaining my own, which isn't from an insider perspective.
So I don't pretend to have any of that level credence.

IMO this jerk would have tweeted the same thing whatever Sanders' ethnicity, because I see it as an extension of the "Berniebro racist/misogynist/sexist" meme that's plagued DU discussions about politics for going on 2 years now. It's how Hillary Clinton does politics.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
48. He's the genius who said "Who can be more of an outsider than a woman president."
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:06 AM
Apr 2016

In response to charges that Hillary was part of the establisment!

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
54. Unfortunately the person who said it did.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:16 AM
Apr 2016

My apology would have gone something like this. I am sorry about all the Democrats who aren't running for higher office who felt they had to raise money in whatever way they could and took money yet held onto their principals it's not easy when you are owned by corporate interests, that remark wasn't directed at you. It was meant to call out Hillary Clinton for being a corporate whore who takes money from big oil and delivers them whatever votes they need to rape the planet.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
52. Really shows Hillaryites true colors. wholly crap are they shakin in their boots. Same
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:12 AM
Apr 2016

type of stuff over at the Hillary group. They are flailing wildly and missing badly

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
76. reminds me of Hillary with all the fake facebook and twiter followers. Just crank up the fake
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:23 AM
Apr 2016

numbers. I could sit here and post 1000s of times a day too. It is weird

Hieronymus

(6,039 posts)
55. Projection
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:18 AM
Apr 2016

The Right has no idea what a Nazi is. They freely use the terms, Nazi, Communist, Socialist, Fascist interchangeably.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
73. Apart from the Nazi reference
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:38 AM
Apr 2016

Why would a political rally with 27,000 people attending and another 20,000 jammed into the streets outside the park be called a "hate rally"?

That's probably more people than Hillary and Bill will draw to every rally they do in NY during this campaign season combined.

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