2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie supporters compared to Nazis! Well at least the ones that were at Washington Park
Here is his tweet, that he deleted. Funny how Bernie supporters did their research and took a screenshot. And it is going viral.
Tom Watson is a Hillary Surrogate who along with Peter Daou founded #Hillarymen
http://www.hillarymen.com/
More anti-semitic bull crap being thrown around.
Edited to add - what makes this especially disgusting is Bernie's father's family members were killed in the Holocaust.
Hillary - We want an apology.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:28 AM - Edit history (1)
Now you all can go back to thinking up new ways to insult Hillary Clinton.
Edited to add: his apology was cleverly hidden right on his Twitter account:
https://mobile.twitter.com/tomwatson/status/720416705533517824
jillan
(39,451 posts)CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Such a shitty Tweet, people like that don't apologize or admit fault.
Look at Bill Clinton, for example, just recently, with BLM.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Where did he make the offending remark?
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)I'm a whore and his comment didn't offend me, so I personally don't think he should apologize
In the context of this thread people offended should take the apology and move on.
Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)Killer Mike was quoting that woman. You can find KM's explanation by googling "Killer Mike The View." It's on Youtube.
There are corporate whores all over TV and radio. Just tune in to any major network or NPR and chances are the first person you hear will be a corporate whore. Maybe we should sanitize the phrase by using "Oligarchic Sex Worker."
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Supporting Clinton alone is an unforgivable sin, after all.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)is how you support Hillary?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #4)
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DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)I support Senator Bernie Sanders--the only candidate who isn't thoroughly corrupt.
Biaviians
(167 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #38)
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Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Jury disclaimer: I am referencing Tom Watson and not a DUer here.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)To those in the crowd that looked like a "certain type of person" and demanding they sow them on their jackets?
Sometimes the the card one is handing out, is handed right back to you Mr Watson. (this is a note to the jury, my comments are directed towards and regarding specifically the author of the horrid and historically antisemitic accusation he tweeted, and not directed at or implied to be directed at anybody on this site.) I would have said the same thing to any hateful skinhead or neo-nazi that spoke similarly
cui bono
(19,926 posts)up from holding back all those months when you pretended to be a Bernie supporter?
Or is it just that now that there's no time outs you feel like you should just let 'er rip? Maybe it's a combination... did you come out of the political closet when the time out rule was lifted?
I mean really, 12 hides??? Sheesh. Get a grip.
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BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Nooo! A sudden release of all that negative energy at once would make the Hiroshima nuke look like a wet firecracker in comparison!
12 hides, really? So in theory geek owes Skinner 180 days of suspension. Well, it would be fun if it worked that way but I wonder why their account is not flagged for review? Like MiniVanilla who's been flagged since December. Not that they are not currently posting with another account though.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)I have not seen one Hillary supporter on here actually want to discuss issues above all else. It's all about catapulting the propaganda and we can't silence Hillary supporters!!! Skinner doesn't care how rude they are or that they add nothing to policy discussion. Discussing issues would just hurt Hillary and the mudslinging smearmongering they do is click bait.
You'll notice most of the vocal Hillary supporters have more than 5 hides, many more than 10.
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BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)I wonder if Skinner realizes that he's destroying DU in the process? Not that this ship hasn't been sinking for a while now, many great posters have left in disgust. Or have been banned.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)I think he knew he had lost a lot of support. I never donated that much but I certainly decided not to donate based on him running a biased site in favor of people who behave like teabaggers.
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BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Prism
(5,815 posts)So amazon has personal recording devices for cheap. You can even get keychain ones for around $10.
The next time this kind of thought crosses your mind, on a whim, just throw it at the recorder. Then play it back. If it still seems like a good idea, well, very well then.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Prism
(5,815 posts)I can see where you agreed that the "tone" of the Sanders campaign deserved comparison with Nazis.
Wait. Which one of us is high right now? This is getting difficult to discern.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)vocabulary.
Go ahead and quote the language where I said that. You won't because I didn't.
Prism
(5,815 posts)In response to a twitter comment about Bernie's followers wearing armbands (Nazi comparison), we got this response.
"What even made his mind come up with such a concept for a tweet?"
Meaning, why on earth would someone compare Bernie supporters with Nazis.
And then you came in with:
"The general tone of Bernie's speakers at his rally"
Meaning, you thought the general tone of Bernie's speakers earned a comparison with Nazis.
Which part of basic human communication are you disputing here?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)cause/effect language is not the same as normative phraseology such as "earn."
hit the books until you're able to understand the difference, until then we're done.
Prism
(5,815 posts)Because you think being cute is ace until you're called out, and then you scamper back into a cloud of "explanations"
You cosigned the sentiment that Bernie supporters deserved Nazi comparison. You can own that now. And I will make sure you do for awhile. Because I'm bored and you're trolling.
Toodles!
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nichomachus
(12,754 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)she will need to disown his remarks.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)He should be publicly shamed by his fellow supporters.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Unify."
Unify? If rather be dipped in honey and lowered into a mound of fire ants.
You know this is how they routinely talk about Bernie supporters and refer to us. The Hillarians wrote us off months ago.
Tom Watson's remarks reflect the exact contempt and mocking that all Bernie supporters experience on DU every day.
Unify this!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)They excel at projection.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,640 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)This is just a reminder of what we are fighting. 8 years of someone who thinks this?
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)and now we're just disgusted.
If you are a decent person, you'd be disgusted too.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)Hillary supporters are completely off their fucking rockers tonight!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)You can smell the desperation, just look at the ops - cray cray on display.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Considering it's coming from the candidate of "hard working white Americans" it's even more outrageous.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Mostly when they are winning by large margins. This is a full scale panic, and has been since Hillary had the meltdown with the Greenpeace girl.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)it's kind of entertaining!
Hydra
(14,459 posts)But they came the calls for Bernie to drop out, and I asked the question here a few times, "What do they know that we don't? It can't be good for their team."
Still haven't seen the iceburg yet, but losing all of those states by such a wide margin is just more bad news for them.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)Apology is not in their language.
How can God apologize when He is never wrong!?
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)(after having been caught spewing antisemitic crap, for example)... they are not really good at it.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)They make some exceptions, evidently.
jillan
(39,451 posts)And they get upset about corporate whores?
Peregrine Took
(7,415 posts)More pity than censor.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)A Nazi reference when our candidate is Jewish and his family members were victims of the Holocaust.
What a piece of shit Tim Watson is.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)this individual is acting in a blatantly anti-Semitic way, like a hateful skinhead Nazi, yet he is accusing innocent Bernie supporters of being Nazis. That's been the strategy all along: accuse the innocent opponent of your own crimes or criminality.
This is totally unacceptable. He needs to be arrested and charged.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,961 posts)It is amazing how so many poeple whine and moan about the Jews always "palying the Holocaust card", but then there are assholes like this who seem to invoke Holocaust/Nazi imagery against Jews or Jewish interests.
Stay tuned. More to come.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)And it should be called out by everyone here.
Behind the Aegis
(53,961 posts)Some of us were already in the know.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I'm waiting for the usual suspects to show up and tell us this isn't really anti-Semitic and ask us to point out the bigotry, after which they'll insist we're imagining things.
Behind the Aegis
(53,961 posts)...I asked for someone to 'splain it all to me.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)And I love you for it.
Behind the Aegis
(53,961 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,961 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)It reads to me like the guy was playing the standard "Sanders=Trump and their supporters are identical" smear of "the extremes", the smear of "their supporters" which is the same meme as "Berniebros" and it has worked, at least so far. It's pretty easy to connect Trump with Nazi standards so the carry-over is more obvious the dimmer a person is, and this guy went there by force of habit. Then deleted.
So far there's been nothing of that nature played against Sanders that's anywhere close to the Rev. Wright, the "birther/muslim/Kenya" stuff and so on played against Obama. That was wicked and continues to be wicked. I have no doubt that Sanders' Jewish identity will begin to be played with a lot more professionalism than this clumsy oaf played this line. I'm assuming here that Sanders continues his wins, to show his political strength.
Perhaps this will be a time for education. After all, Hillary Clinton has expressed her closeness to Israel and Netanyahu both, and Netanyahu represents a right-wing incarnation of the country, so it's hard for me to see how an anti-Semitic card could be effectively played by her. I expect the Republicans will play it, though. You betcha if they run with Trump going for his ultimate "win" (that's Trump's only concept, repeated over and over, he's in it for the joy and self-aggrandizement of being a winner).
Behind the Aegis
(53,961 posts)Whether he is doing like you opine, or is something more nefarious is irrelevant to me; it is still anti-Semitic.
delrem
(9,688 posts)I was just explaining my own, which isn't from an insider perspective.
So I don't pretend to have any of that level credence.
IMO this jerk would have tweeted the same thing whatever Sanders' ethnicity, because I see it as an extension of the "Berniebro racist/misogynist/sexist" meme that's plagued DU discussions about politics for going on 2 years now. It's how Hillary Clinton does politics.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I hate coded and not so coded hate speech.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)In response to charges that Hillary was part of the establisment!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)My apology would have gone something like this. I am sorry about all the Democrats who aren't running for higher office who felt they had to raise money in whatever way they could and took money yet held onto their principals it's not easy when you are owned by corporate interests, that remark wasn't directed at you. It was meant to call out Hillary Clinton for being a corporate whore who takes money from big oil and delivers them whatever votes they need to rape the planet.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)type of stuff over at the Hillary group. They are flailing wildly and missing badly
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)numbers. I could sit here and post 1000s of times a day too. It is weird
Hieronymus
(6,039 posts)The Right has no idea what a Nazi is. They freely use the terms, Nazi, Communist, Socialist, Fascist interchangeably.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)What an asshat.
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mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)Why would a political rally with 27,000 people attending and another 20,000 jammed into the streets outside the park be called a "hate rally"?
That's probably more people than Hillary and Bill will draw to every rally they do in NY during this campaign season combined.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Way to go Hillarians.
treestar
(82,383 posts)can't have it both ways.