Bernie will be apologizing for the "whore" remark today

[Renew Deal]

And he will say that "it's not the kind of campaign we run" even though it's proven over and over that it clearly is the kind of campaign they run. Anger is a pillar of the Sanders campaign and they can't control it.

[apcalc]

1. Yup

[CentralCoaster]

48. Sanders calls 'em as he sees him. Shocking, I know. An honest politician! nt

[TCJ70]

2. Bernie needs to stop being held accountable for other people's words...

...it's a double standard being applied to him and him only. If he's responsible for this guy, then Hillary is responsible for CP Time, special place in hell, defeat/disqualify and a whole litany of other comments Hillary folks are real quick to write off.

[Renew Deal]

5. A guy was on his stage, mentioned her by name, and then made the whore remark.

Bernie should lead by example.

[brooklynite]

8. ...and then Bernie thanked him.

[TCJ70]

19. Who do you think is offended by being described...

...as a corporate whore? Which politician heard that and said, "Hey wait! I'm not a corporate whore!" Because that may be an indicator that you are, in fact, a corporate whore.

It's a well established enough phrase and in the context of his comments encompassed many people, not just one. He also said later that he probably could have found a better way to describe politicians who are more beholden to corporate interests than people.

[revbones]

51. They don't care about actual definitions, they just want something to justify fake outrage. nt

[Bluenorthwest]

42. Except he did not say 'whore' as you keep claiming, it was plural 'corporate whores' and thus not

about an individual which is in fact your assertion. Manufactured outrage involves the need to rewrite what was said.

Anyone who wants to hang a man for his words best be sure to use that man's actual words to tie that noose. Any revisions or characterizations used against others are known as 'the bearing of false witness' and that's a form of lying that is often considered to be the very worst form. It is thus in the Christian tradition Hillary claims to follow for example.

[beam me up scottie]

7. Hillary is responsible for cp time, she knew about it in advance.

And a special place in hell as well as young women who support Bernie are boy crazy twits according to Steinem.

[Else You Are Mad]

17. No fair!!

those don't count because... uh... sexism!!!!

[beam me up scottie]

20. Right?

The disconnect is staggering. Racism and sexism get a pass while they dial it up to 11 for a commonly used term that more often than not is used to describe men.

[Else You Are Mad]

25. I can't imagine

the mental gymnastics her supporters go through when they have to rationalize what is said on Hillary's behalf while screaming faux outrage about this. The projection is staggering.

[KittyWampus]

46. It's be nice if he'd be held accountable for his lies about his taxes, the Crime Bill

his inability to answer basic questions to an editorial board, the lies around the whole Pope thing…

But he never is.

It's amazing how the media glosses over Sanders' incompetence.

[Joe the Revelator]

3. No chance, if pressed he will say that Paul Song has already apologized, then pivot to how there are

a bunch of corporate 'whore' lackeys in congress. He won't say whore, but there is a point to be made.

[Renew Deal]

6. He will. Today

And probably again at the debate.

[Joe the Revelator]

10. He won't but, please, go on.

[noretreatnosurrender]

12. It Makes No Difference

if he does or doesn't. He is entitled to do whatever he wants to do, as are we. Everyone here knows it's a bullshit issue so if he is asked about it at the debate we will all know that CNN is merely trying to help Hillary with this manufactured faux outrage.

[Human101948]

4. Good...there should be anger about how we are sold out again and again by corporate whores...

Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy
The Telegraph
Zachary Davies Boren, The Telegraph

The U.S. government does not represent the interests of the majority of the country's citizens, but is instead ruled by those of the rich and powerful, a new study from Princeton and Northwestern universities has concluded.

The report, "Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens" (PDF), used extensive policy data collected between 1981 and 2002 to empirically determine the state of the U.S. political system.

After sifting through nearly 1,800 U.S. policies enacted in that period and comparing them to the expressed preferences of average Americans (50th percentile of income), affluent Americans (90th percentile), and large special interests groups, researchers concluded that the U.S. is dominated by its economic elite.

http://www.businessinsider.com/major-study-finds-that-the-us-is-an-oligarchy-2014-4

[beam me up scottie]

9. Yes let's be more outraged by a commonly used term than by the real obscenity.

Corrupt politicians who sell out to the highest bidder.

[restorefreedom]

36. i hear there are squirrels running around.....

lets go look at them!

classic rovian tactic. how sad that rove is so emulated by a "dem"

[LexVegas]

11. "it's not the kind of campaign we run". Yeah it is. nt

[Bluenorthwest]

43. The kind of campaign Hillary is running:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. This is actually great news for the Clinton campaign. (REDUX)

If you don't know why you really shouldn't be posting on a political board or for that matter operating heavy machinery

[pandr32]

15. I certainly hope there is a proper apology

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That was such an over-the-top thing for a surrogate to say and stand by and thank them for it. It may as well have come out of Sanders mouth.

I should also note that not once has Sanders ever addressed the issue of why Hillary Clinton would say anything like that (medicare for all is never going to happen) in the first place. He never explains that she is talking about Republican opposition. In fact, he never mentions that as being much of a problem for anything he promises, because of--you know, "revolution". He should have been talking about the roadblocks they set up against any form of progress all along--preparing his base (he is running as a Democrat after all, and his base should be prepped to support the nominee and all down-ticket Dems). Unfortunately he is too busy smearing Hillary Clinton and running a negative campaign--something he said he would never do. He could stop the dirt--right now.

Apologize Sen. Sanders.

[B Calm]

16. Another day of mud slinging from Hillary supporters. Trashing Thread

[beedle]

18. It's true

Hillary does not have sex for money with those corporations that pay her.

Screwing the people is not sex.

Depends what your definition of bribery is.

[m-lekktor]

21. you guys look petty and utterly RIDICULOUS screeching over this. I hope you all keep it up!!nt

[Renew Deal]

24. More sexist language

You forgot hysteria

[beam me up scottie]

26. ...

[Buddyblazon]

29. Why do you support corporate owned candidates...

and then act offended when people point out they're indeed corporate owned? Why are you protecting corrupt politicians? Why do you hate the American worker like this?

[Renew Deal]

31. Why do you defend overt sexism?

[longship]

33. Metaphor is not your strongest subject, is it my friend?

Hillary's campaign embraces Citizens United; Bernie's rejects it.

Do you embrace the SCOTUS Citizens United ruling? Then, you probably like Hillary Clinton for president.

Those of us who think that it was one of the most odious SCOTUS rulings in history disagree, which is yet another reason to not support Hillary Clinton for the Dem nomination, for me the most important reason.

Metaphorically and historically, that kind of selling oneself has been called being a whore.

Granted, given Hillary's gender it does not play out very well. But it is what it is. And she is, by definition, a corporate whore in the metaphorical sense. Political correctness outrage won't stop that from being a fact. One look at her contributor list should convince anybody. That is what she has to live with.

If you don't like the whore metaphor, let's try selling her soul to the devil. Either work just fine.

[Renew Deal]

34. You're lying

Prove your first claim

[longship]

37. Just look at her fucking donor list, my friend.

That is all I should have to say. And you are too smart to not know that this is what this is all about.

That list is of one who has sold her soul to the devil.

Getting big money out of politics is my number one issue, and your candidate is 180 degrees wrong on it.

[Renew Deal]

38. The donor list doesn't prove anything about Citizens united

I'm all for getting big money out of politics. But we also have to play the game within the rules that exist. There is no reason to let the republicans take advantage of the law while we cower in fear.

[longship]

39. If it wasn't for Citizens United, she could not have that donor list!

Drops mic.

I am done with this thread.

Sorry, my good friend, we are not connecting on this. I will see you later in one where we may see more eye-to-eye.

My best to you, as always,

[Renew Deal]

45. That's just not true

The difference between now and before is that now they can donate much larger sums and there's less control over "dark money." Other than that, it's the same list.

My best to you as well.

[longship]

50. Okay. Let's just agree that both have to go.

We need big time election finance reform. Let's start there.

[Renew Deal]

52. I agree

[Broward]

22. He's going to apologize to the American people

for all the corporate Democratic whores? That's not on him.

[Freddie Stubbs]

23. Who invited Alan Grayson?

[riversedge]

27. Yes, Sanders camp has folks how juiced up and Talk like Republicans now.

[Buddyblazon]

30. Uh...DU talks like that and has...

the entire 12 years I've been here.

Stop feigning offense.

[frylock]

54. FREE STUFF!!1

[livetohike]

28. The candidate is all about anger. Born angry apparently. So he models

this behavior at his rallies and many think this is acceptable politics. Anger and no realistic solutions to problems.

Immature.

[longship]

32. Hillary Clinton has sold her soul to the devil.

How's that for a metaphor?

Her entire campaign embraces the SCOTUS Citizens United decision, big money in politics. Whereas, Bernie's eschews that very thing. While Hillary has private, pay-to-play, campaign stops, Bernie invites everybody.

She is evil.

There. I fixed the whore comment.

How's that?

[bvf]

40. Gee, I wonder who...?

I was #7, with the witty retort.


AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
On Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:47 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Hillary Clinton has sold her soul to the devil.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1730254

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Calling Hillary evil is over the top.

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Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Calling Hillary EVIL is not over the top.
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[longship]

44. My post was a somewhat lame attempt to poke the beast.

If they don't like corporate whore, try sold her soul to the devil.

One chooses ones metaphors carefully. I did.

The "evil" thing was just the sprinkles on top.

[bvf]

47. Well, it certainly did the trick.

I was going to point out in my explanation that evil is simply the opposite of good, but, sure as shit, some asshole would eventually alert on a post reading, "Hillary is not good."

The small minds hereabouts are just annoying.

[restorefreedom]

35. yet another pot/kettle moment

this touching moment brought to you by hillary for president "we blame everyone else for what we do"

[jmg257]

41. Good than we can stop worrying about who said what and

Concentrate on why so many people think she is s corporate whore.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

49. The answer is the same no matter how many times you ask.

You guys have a boy-who-cried-wolf thing going on, and it's out of your control. Many of us no longer give a shit what the other side thinks, not after all the lies and vicious smears and trickery. Fuck all that. That door is closed forever.

It's apparent you didn't think there would be consequences for this low and base foolishness. You were wrong.

[Renew Deal]

55. "Many of us no longer give a shit what the other side thinks"

This includes the voters.

I also don't care one bit about your threats. Vote, don't vote. It means nothing to me.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

56. Ok

[frylock]

53. Maybe he'll blame it on Bill de Blasio.