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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:50 AM Apr 2016

If I wanted to release my tax returns, it would take me maybe two hours.

Last edited Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:38 AM - Edit history (1)

Also, I'd be able to release the whole thing, not just a 1040. Oh, and if I did release just a 1040, I'd know that that was all I released, and not pretend that I released a full return. And I'd sure as hell know the difference between a tax return and a Senate financial disclosure form.

Yet somehow it's taking Bernie and Jane months. And this guy wants to run the most powerful country in the world?

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If I wanted to release my tax returns, it would take me maybe two hours. (Original Post) DanTex Apr 2016 OP
Prove it! Human101948 Apr 2016 #1
LOL. I bet you'd love that... DanTex Apr 2016 #8
Please . . . I'm begging you. Dig up some new dirt. Something. Anything. Vinca Apr 2016 #2
I'm with post #1 Uponthegears Apr 2016 #3
Then fucking post them, or quit whining. You really are silly. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #4
How long would it take you to release the transcript of a $650,000 speech? Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #5
Put up or shut up. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #6
Prove it, or be quiet! B Calm Apr 2016 #7
Yep, I could give you 40 years of itemized returns as fast as the copy machine would produce them... Sancho Apr 2016 #9
Prove it! B Calm Apr 2016 #11
No problem! Sancho Apr 2016 #12
LOL, in other words not going to happen. Go back to slandering B Calm Apr 2016 #13
It's not slandering for Presidential candidates to produce tax returns... Sancho Apr 2016 #15
Maybe FAKE OUTRAGE would have been B Calm Apr 2016 #20
About the same amount of time to release speeches. shraby Apr 2016 #10
+1000 Logical Apr 2016 #14
Cool story, yo hereforthevoting Apr 2016 #16
Mr. Sanders declared about a year ago, didn't he? planetc Apr 2016 #17
You have no "legitimate right" to ask for them... Human101948 Apr 2016 #19
It would take me minutes. Personal and corporate. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #18
you sound like youd be a great accountant PaulaFarrell Apr 2016 #21
I do have a great accountant. But, yeah, I'd probably be a good one too. DanTex Apr 2016 #23
hmm youve just said i have no human competence PaulaFarrell Apr 2016 #24
You're not running for president, I wouldn't worry about it. DanTex Apr 2016 #25
oh i'm defintely not worrying about your opinion PaulaFarrell Apr 2016 #26
Lol, i doubt you need an accountant. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #31
This is a non-issue, pumped up by Hillary supporters. Autumn Apr 2016 #22
go for it then. 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #28
No worries, when the "corporate" media finally start reporting his excuses Iliyah Apr 2016 #29
And hillarys transcripts! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #32
My best guess is they know they won't win the primary, MoonRiver Apr 2016 #30
Same reason hill is not releasing transcripts. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #33
It's been about 4 1/2 hours since you said this, so let's see yours. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #34
How long would it take you to disclose what you do for a living? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #35
I use the turbo tax home edition and I can print a return at any time Gothmog Apr 2016 #36

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
2. Please . . . I'm begging you. Dig up some new dirt. Something. Anything.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:52 AM
Apr 2016

It's getting to be like Ground Hog Day around here.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
5. How long would it take you to release the transcript of a $650,000 speech?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:28 AM
Apr 2016

And that woman wants to run a country?

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
9. Yep, I could give you 40 years of itemized returns as fast as the copy machine would produce them...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:37 AM
Apr 2016

and for the last decade or two I have electronic copies.

If Bernie "cannot produce" them, then he's hiding something.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
13. LOL, in other words not going to happen. Go back to slandering
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:14 AM
Apr 2016

a great Democratic Candidate!

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
15. It's not slandering for Presidential candidates to produce tax returns...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:40 AM
Apr 2016

maybe you can tell us what Bernie is hiding?

Does he have an account in the islands? We know he and Jane have investments in energy companies. I got rid of my VALIC (part of AIG) years ago because of their investments.

A college president and a Senator who do their own taxes on a short form? If you believe that then I have some land for you in Florida.

You show up here and I'll be glad to show you that I have every return to the mid-70s signed by a CPA.

planetc

(7,815 posts)
17. Mr. Sanders declared about a year ago, didn't he?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:45 AM
Apr 2016

If that's the case, he's known that long that he would be expected to produce some tax returns.

He's said that he uses Mrs. Sanders, not a paid preparer. This makes it a little more difficult. (I discovered recently both the IRS and H&R Block can print off four years of back tax records for you in a trice. Very helpful.)

But I, too, could reach into a paper file, spend some time struggling with my scanner, and send copies off to anyone who had a legitimate right to ask for them. On the other hand, campaigning is terrifically time-and energy-consuming. But even so, I'm sure Mr. & Mrs. Sanders will supply tax returns.

My question is, what do we expect to learn from them? We know Mr. Sanders' policy positions, experience, and political philosophy. What will his tax returns add to this picture?

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
19. You have no "legitimate right" to ask for them...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:49 AM
Apr 2016

There is no legal requirement for the candidate to disclose tax returns. Just as there is no legal requirement for Hillary to realease her $675,000 Goldman Sachs speeches.

PaulaFarrell

(1,236 posts)
21. you sound like youd be a great accountant
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:54 AM
Apr 2016

Not really sure that's who we need leading the country right now, but nothing wrong with it. The world needs good accountants too.
Fwiw, if someone asked me to release 10 years' of tax returns, I would:
1) delay as long as possible
2) delay some more
3) spend 3 or 4 hours neck deep in files cabinets, boxes of unfiled papers (not to mention the ones with permanent residence on my bedroom floor) searching desperately for anything that looked tax-related or might be the scrap of paper with my login to the tax system)
4) shout/scream/cry/throw things
5) try to get that old laptop working that I'm pretty sure I used to file a few years ago so maybe there's a copy on there?
6) cry some more
7) give up

But that's just me

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
23. I do have a great accountant. But, yeah, I'd probably be a good one too.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:56 AM
Apr 2016

But being able to produce tax returns doesn't require being a good accountant, it just requires some basic human competence.

PaulaFarrell

(1,236 posts)
24. hmm youve just said i have no human competence
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:03 AM
Apr 2016

And I gave you a compliment.
The fact is, a lot of people don't really care about paperwork. I think tthere are more important things to judge 'human competence'. You judge a farmer on his crops not his aaccounts, and a leader on his vision, not whether he's OCD about his taxes.

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
22. This is a non-issue, pumped up by Hillary supporters.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:55 AM
Apr 2016

They will release them when they need to. I personally think they should release them after Hillary releases her speech transcripts so we all know what was promised to GS.

Response to DanTex (Original post)

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
29. No worries, when the "corporate" media finally start reporting his excuses
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:21 AM
Apr 2016

of why he can't and also that he claimed he it (LOL) . . . .

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
30. My best guess is they know they won't win the primary,
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:50 AM
Apr 2016

and are stalling so their finances won't be revealed to any rivals in upcoming Vermont Senatorial races. If they really thought they would win the primary, they'd be all over this, so as not to raise suspicion, which they already have. Too late Bernie.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
34. It's been about 4 1/2 hours since you said this, so let's see yours.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:55 AM
Apr 2016

Or are you afraid we might find out how you make your money.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
35. How long would it take you to disclose what you do for a living?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:59 AM
Apr 2016

Perhaps an example of your work? A speech transcript perhaps?

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