Idiot who invited scorn upon himself by calling Hillary a whore

[bigtree]

Timi Burke ‏@gotdem
#DemocraticWhore Here's the idiot who invited scorn upon himself for forgetting who freed his sister



T. Fisher King ‏@T_FisherKing Houston, TX
Noted #democraticwhore Bill Clinton rescued Paul Song's sister in law, Laura Ling from North Korean imprisonment.



Democratic Whore @AnOldLefty
In Release of Journalists, Both Clintons Had Key Roles
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/05/world/asia/05korea.html?mwrsm=Twitter

[Barack_America]

1. Do you go with the campaign's estimate of 27,000? Or 48,000...

...by the NYFD?

[Agschmid]

4. ~48k probably.

[kristopher]

65. I thought it was 225,000 - $$$ that she got for each of many corporate speeches.

Minimum. Total over 24 months from 2013-2015 was $21,648,000.

I can see how, in the context of a political campaign, Hillary supporters are incensed at the actual definition. It DOES reflect very badly on Hillary to be doing what she is doing - positioning her office to benefit the already rich and powerful who have directly paid her vast sums of money.

I feel for you. It sucks to be faced with unethical behavior by someone you've put your faith in. But it's your own fault since the has been transparently catering to the wealthy from day one. She didn't hide anything from you and if you didn't see it, that is entirely on you.

I believe that referring to a politician, or anyone for that matter, male or female, as a corporate whore does not reinforce sexism against women.
A corporate whore is someone who sells themselves to corporate interests by giving up their beliefs and/or values in exchange for money and/or power.
A whore is someone who sells their body for sex, typically this is a derogatory term that applies to women. It's a loaded word which is colloquially interpreted as insulting to women but is not inherently so since male prostitutes could just as accurately be called whores. The insulting component of whore comes from the supposition that it is inherently wrong to sell your body for sex even though that is not inherently wrong.
Whore as an insult insinuates that a whore is someone who's selling moral virtue (in the form of chastity) for money. Whore as a descriptor is simply another term for prostitute. This is similar to how 'jew' can be both an insult and a descriptor depending on how it is used.
So corporate whore as an insult is claim that they are selling their morality to the highest bidder. Despite that the root word 'whore' is colloquially understood as insulting to women, the term 'corporate whore' does not have inherently gendered implications and does not reinforce sexism.

https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/32ps5x/cmv_corporate_whore_is_not_a_sexist_term/

[Agschmid]

93. I was confirming the number of people at a Bernie rally...

That was your response to that?

[kristopher]

95. The thread topic is Hillary selling out to corporations.

Which meshes with the full range of social problems in the US. This was your response to that?

[Agschmid]

96. Did I respond to the thread?

No.

But hey glad you are here to keep me in line, God forbid I have a thought of my own.

[kristopher]

98. Now, about the corrupt system of legalized bribery that Hillary is fighting for...

Jimmy Carter: U.S. Is an 'Oligarchy With Unlimited Political Bribery'

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/videos/jimmy-carter-u-s-is-an-oligarchy-with-unlimited-political-bribery-20150731

[Agschmid]

99. ...

[hrmjustin]

13. The park only fits 6,000 so I don't believe either number.

[Logical]

22. Lol, of course you dont. Nt

[hrmjustin]

26. If you actually live here like I di you know WSP is not big enough for that size crowd.

http://abc7ny.com/politics/bernie-sanders-holds-big-rally-in-washington-square-park/1288865/

Sanders held a rally in Washington Square Park, which was closed all day Wednesday at the request of the Secret Service. 6,500 people were estimated to be in the park for the rally with an additional 5,000 supporters outside the park for a total of 11,500.

[Bluenorthwest]

63. In 1912 20,000 gathered there to protest the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire. 25,000 in Washington

Square 1915 to support Women's Suffrage.

[hrmjustin]

66. You do understand the park was bigger back then?

You do understand the rules for how many people can gather in the park safety is different now?


And we have no way of knowing those numbers are accurate.

[Bluenorthwest]

92. You obviously don't know your city as well as you claim. WSP is 10 acres now, 10 acres then.

Sorry. It's not smaller now. If it was you'd have some sort of evidence....

Read about it here:
http://washingtonsquareparkconservancy.org/history/

[rjsquirrel]

56. I live in the neighborhood.

No way it was more than 10k in the park.

Too bad rallies aren't votes huh?


Sorry.

[RandySF]

52. What is the topic of this post?

?cb=1253268048

[DanTex]

2. I think that behind the insults that Bernie Bros like to hurl, they understand that we need

competent people like Clinton or Obama in office, and not a guy who is promising 5.3% GDP growth but can't even figure out how to release his own tax returns.

[livetohike]

15. Exactly. Nor one who can't answer simple foreign policy questions. n/t

[gabeana]

85. Yeah good foreign policy like lets go into Iraq

yeah good stuff their, another dumb comment from the shrills

[Bobbie Jo]

57. Right?

[hrmjustin]

3. He knew what he was doing. Sanders needs to condemn what he said but I don't expect much from Sander

[TheBlackAdder]

32. Keep drawing attention to the issue of corporatocrisy, that's all these OPs are really doing.

.


While trying to cast one in bad light, it draws attention to what "corporate Democratic whores" are.


And the word is pluralized, meaning more than one.



wiki:

Corporatocrisy: is a term used to refer to an economic and political
system controlled by corporations and/or corporate interests


.

[kristopher]

59. +1 Haha hehehaha...

[beam me up scottie]

5. It's make your own meme day at Camp Weathervane! Just insert words that were never said!

Who needs facts when you can make it up as you go along?

[NorthCarolina]

86. That's what they do. Why do Bernie supporters even give them the time of day

let alone continually responding to their multiple threads of completely baseless word salads.

[Duckhunter935]

6. Let me see the quote of his exact words

I do not think that is correct

[Dem2]

8. Exact quote

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I apologize for posting the quote out of context previously.

[athena]

53. Wow.

That is incredible. And Bernie supporters are claiming he didn't call Hillary a whore. Unbelievable.

[Dem2]

54. I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw the full context

Completely indefensible comment and I'm glad both Paul and Bernie have apologized for this statement.

[kristopher]

68. It is a totally defensible comment - she sold her loyalty to the corporations

She exactly fits the definition of a politician that is a corporate whore. You don't get to rewrite the english language because your candidate's ethical failings are being placed front and center. She took Twenty One Million Six Hundred Forty Eight Thousand Dollars over 24 months between 2013 to 2015 when she KNEW she was running for president.

If you were trying to make up and example to illustrate the term corporate whore you couldn't devise a better one even in the hypothetical.

I believe that referring to a politician, or anyone for that matter, male or female, as a corporate whore does not reinforce sexism against women.
A corporate whore is someone who sells themselves to corporate interests by giving up their beliefs and/or values in exchange for money and/or power.
A whore is someone who sells their body for sex, typically this is a derogatory term that applies to women. It's a loaded word which is colloquially interpreted as insulting to women but is not inherently so since male prostitutes could just as accurately be called whores. The insulting component of whore comes from the supposition that it is inherently wrong to sell your body for sex even though that is not inherently wrong.
Whore as an insult insinuates that a whore is someone who's selling moral virtue (in the form of chastity) for money. Whore as a descriptor is simply another term for prostitute. This is similar to how 'jew' can be both an insult and a descriptor depending on how it is used.
So corporate whore as an insult is claim that they are selling their morality to the highest bidder. Despite that the root word 'whore' is colloquially understood as insulting to women, the term 'corporate whore' does not have inherently gendered implications and does not reinforce sexism.

https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/32ps5x/cmv_corporate_whore_is_not_a_sexist_term/

[Dem2]

71. You've lost me

I'm not reading any crap defending this, sorry.

I'm ready to move on but people like yourself aren't.

It's a losing battle, why on Earth are you embarrassing yourself?

Stop defending the indefensible and it will disappear as an issue since it wasn't even Bernie that said it and Bernie disavowed said comment this morning:

Dr. Song's comment was inappropriate and insensitive. There's no room for language like that in our political discourse.

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/720590717706506240

[kristopher]

73. There is plenty of room for language like that in our political discourse.

If you don't like it, I suggest it's because it reflects an aspect of your candidate that you are ashamed of - she is completely an integrated part of the Corporate Oligarchy.


I believe that referring to a politician, or anyone for that matter, male or female, as a corporate whore does not reinforce sexism against women.
A corporate whore is someone who sells themselves to corporate interests by giving up their beliefs and/or values in exchange for money and/or power.
A whore is someone who sells their body for sex, typically this is a derogatory term that applies to women. It's a loaded word which is colloquially interpreted as insulting to women but is not inherently so since male prostitutes could just as accurately be called whores. The insulting component of whore comes from the supposition that it is inherently wrong to sell your body for sex even though that is not inherently wrong.
Whore as an insult insinuates that a whore is someone who's selling moral virtue (in the form of chastity) for money. Whore as a descriptor is simply another term for prostitute. This is similar to how 'jew' can be both an insult and a descriptor depending on how it is used.
So corporate whore as an insult is claim that they are selling their morality to the highest bidder. Despite that the root word 'whore' is colloquially understood as insulting to women, the term 'corporate whore' does not have inherently gendered implications and does not reinforce sexism.
https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/32ps5x/cmv_corporate_whore_is_not_a_sexist_term/

Hillary took $21,648,000 from corporations from 4/2013 - 3/2015 when she KNEW she was running for president. That is as clear an example of selling out your integrity to corporations as you could possibly devise.

[Dem2]

74. "Dr. Song's comment was inappropriate and insensitive. There's no room for language like that..."

Dr. Song's comment was inappropriate and insensitive. There's no room for language like that in our political discourse.

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/720590717706506240

[kristopher]

75. There is plenty of room for language like that in our political discourse.

I believe that referring to a politician, or anyone for that matter, male or female, as a corporate whore does not reinforce sexism against women.
A corporate whore is someone who sells themselves to corporate interests by giving up their beliefs and/or values in exchange for money and/or power.
A whore is someone who sells their body for sex, typically this is a derogatory term that applies to women. It's a loaded word which is colloquially interpreted as insulting to women but is not inherently so since male prostitutes could just as accurately be called whores. The insulting component of whore comes from the supposition that it is inherently wrong to sell your body for sex even though that is not inherently wrong.
Whore as an insult insinuates that a whore is someone who's selling moral virtue (in the form of chastity) for money. Whore as a descriptor is simply another term for prostitute. This is similar to how 'jew' can be both an insult and a descriptor depending on how it is used.
So corporate whore as an insult is claim that they are selling their morality to the highest bidder. Despite that the root word 'whore' is colloquially understood as insulting to women, the term 'corporate whore' does not have inherently gendered implications and does not reinforce sexism.
https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/32ps5x/cmv_corporate_whore_is_not_a_sexist_term/

Hillary took $21,648,000 from corporations from 4/2013 - 3/2015 when she KNEW she was running for president. That is as clear an example of selling out your integrity to corporations as you could possibly devise.

[Dem2]

76. "Dr. Song's comment was inappropriate and insensitive. There's no room for language like that..."

Dr. Song's comment was inappropriate and insensitive. There's no room for language like that in our political discourse.

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/720590717706506240

[kristopher]

77. Did HRC take $21,648,000 from corps between 2013-2015 knowing she was running for Pres?

Yes.

You can't devise in the abstract a more appropriate example of what makes a "corporate whore".

I believe that referring to a politician, or anyone for that matter, male or female, as a corporate whore does not reinforce sexism against women.
A corporate whore is someone who sells themselves to corporate interests by giving up their beliefs and/or values in exchange for money and/or power.
A whore is someone who sells their body for sex, typically this is a derogatory term that applies to women. It's a loaded word which is colloquially interpreted as insulting to women but is not inherently so since male prostitutes could just as accurately be called whores. The insulting component of whore comes from the supposition that it is inherently wrong to sell your body for sex even though that is not inherently wrong.
Whore as an insult insinuates that a whore is someone who's selling moral virtue (in the form of chastity) for money. Whore as a descriptor is simply another term for prostitute. This is similar to how 'jew' can be both an insult and a descriptor depending on how it is used.
So corporate whore as an insult is claim that they are selling their morality to the highest bidder. Despite that the root word 'whore' is colloquially understood as insulting to women, the term 'corporate whore' does not have inherently gendered implications and does not reinforce sexism.

https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/32ps5x/cmv_corporate_whore_is_not_a_sexist_term/

[Dem2]

82. I like eggs.

I love eggs.

I looove eggs.

Watch starting at 1:50

That's why I order a omelette.

[kristopher]

84. Thanks. It's already clear that Hillary represents Corporate America First.

[beam me up scottie]

14. He never called Hillary a whore, that's just the poutrage machine in spin mode.

[TheCowsCameHome]

19. Of course not, but the HRC group is desperate.

As always.

[Marr]

83. I don't think this constant strain to be a victim plays well, either.

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It makes Hillary look weak. The impression is that she's always whining about personal insults.

[beam me up scottie]

111. Yep, just like 2008. Everything gets turned into a sexist slur.

[frylock]

113. It does make her look weak, and you know who isn't going to be shamed by image macros?

[bigtree]

50. here

[kristopher]

69. Here

I believe that referring to a politician, or anyone for that matter, male or female, as a corporate whore does not reinforce sexism against women.
A corporate whore is someone who sells themselves to corporate interests by giving up their beliefs and/or values in exchange for money and/or power.
A whore is someone who sells their body for sex, typically this is a derogatory term that applies to women. It's a loaded word which is colloquially interpreted as insulting to women but is not inherently so since male prostitutes could just as accurately be called whores. The insulting component of whore comes from the supposition that it is inherently wrong to sell your body for sex even though that is not inherently wrong.
Whore as an insult insinuates that a whore is someone who's selling moral virtue (in the form of chastity) for money. Whore as a descriptor is simply another term for prostitute. This is similar to how 'jew' can be both an insult and a descriptor depending on how it is used.
So corporate whore as an insult is claim that they are selling their morality to the highest bidder. Despite that the root word 'whore' is colloquially understood as insulting to women, the term 'corporate whore' does not have inherently gendered implications and does not reinforce sexism.
https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/32ps5x/cmv_corporate_whore_is_not_a_sexist_term/

Hillary took $21,648,000 from corporations from 4/2013 - 3/2015 when she KNEW she was running for president. That is as clear an example of selling out your integrity to corporations as you could possibly devise.

[bigtree]

70. here

[kristopher]

72. Here, here.

I believe that referring to a politician, or anyone for that matter, male or female, as a corporate whore does not reinforce sexism against women.
A corporate whore is someone who sells themselves to corporate interests by giving up their beliefs and/or values in exchange for money and/or power.
A whore is someone who sells their body for sex, typically this is a derogatory term that applies to women. It's a loaded word which is colloquially interpreted as insulting to women but is not inherently so since male prostitutes could just as accurately be called whores. The insulting component of whore comes from the supposition that it is inherently wrong to sell your body for sex even though that is not inherently wrong.
Whore as an insult insinuates that a whore is someone who's selling moral virtue (in the form of chastity) for money. Whore as a descriptor is simply another term for prostitute. This is similar to how 'jew' can be both an insult and a descriptor depending on how it is used.
So corporate whore as an insult is claim that they are selling their morality to the highest bidder. Despite that the root word 'whore' is colloquially understood as insulting to women, the term 'corporate whore' does not have inherently gendered implications and does not reinforce sexism.
https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/32ps5x/cmv_corporate_whore_is_not_a_sexist_term/

Hillary took $21,648,000 from corporations from 4/2013 - 3/2015 when she KNEW she was running for president. That is as clear an example of selling out your integrity to corporations as you could possibly devise.

[bigtree]

78. here

[kristopher]

79. So you admit HRC is bought by corporate cash!!

About time.

[bigtree]

81. I 'admit' that you're sea-lioning

...

[kristopher]

87. Hillary just rcvd as personal income $21,648,000 in 24 months from Corporate America.

Thanks for playing "Pay to Play"!!!

[bigtree]

91. 'and that's what drove me to embrace a sexist slur'

...said no one in particular.

[kristopher]

97. 'that's what drove you to embrace a sexist slur that never was in order to divert from bribery'

Legalized bribery, true. But bribery nonetheless.

Jimmy Carter: U.S. Is an 'Oligarchy With Unlimited Political Bribery'
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/videos/jimmy-carter-u-s-is-an-oligarchy-with-unlimited-political-bribery-20150731

[B Calm]

7. Another day of mud slinging from Hillary supporters. Trashing Thread

[Thinkingabout]

103. Mud slinging from Hillary supporters? Guess you can say it was another day of mud slinging from

Sanders supporter, unacceptable. The mud needs to stop, Sanders said he has never run a dirty campaign, now he should not say this anymore.

[RiverLover]

9. Jezus - No one called Hillary a whore. You guys are disgusting on how you are twisting this.

Its so obvious too.

Can't have people talking about the historically large rally for Bernie, right? Can't have people look into Bernie's actual speech.

Hint: Its incredible. Watching this will make people want him to lead our country.

[My Good Babushka]

10. Why is it assumed he owes allegiance to the Hillary because of a diplomatic mission of Bill's?

Clinton supporters are really entrenched in their love of quid pro quo politics.

[dsc]

37. at the behest of his wife who was Secretary of State

that would be Hillary. So yea he kind of is a an ingrate for calling the woman who helped save his sister in law a whore.

[My Good Babushka]

39. He doesn't give up his freedom to express himself or vote how he wants

because he got a benefit. If you think that's normal and good, maybe that's part of the problem. Quid pro quo thinking.

[dsc]

43. I didn't say he was an ingrate for endorsing Bernie

I said he was an ingrate for calling Hillary a whore.

[NCTraveler]

11. He is the perfect representative for Sanders supporters. nt.

[whathehell]

24. False -- Bernie has already condemned 'Bernie bros' for sexist comments

about Hillary, and I'm sure he'll address.this as well

I'm a Bernie supporter and this definitely does NOT represent me.

[betsuni]

12. K&R

[Bonobo]

16. Man, that is so COOL that you posted a photo of him and his wife and her name like that!

You must be very proud of yourself.

[whathehell]

29. Yes, and Paul should be very "proud" of himself for his ugly gender slur

Would Pauly like it if it was used on his wife and daughter?

Nah, I didn't think so.

[Bonobo]

40. Did he actually call Hillary a whore? nt

[whathehell]

49. It seems he called her a 'corporate whore" and Claire McCaskill on Morning Joe

just announced that Bernie denounced his words.

[Bonobo]

51. Do you have the actual quote? I really think it is hard to find people not "bending" the truth. nt

[frylock]

114. Claire 'I don't want my daughter anywhere near Bill Clinton' McCaskill ?

[whathehell]

115. The very one..

[m-lekktor]

42. You need to get out more or read more if you think there are only female whores in the sex industry.

Do you think it is women that gay guys pay for?

[whathehell]

47. LOL..You need "to get out more", if you can't acknowledge that females are still FAR more

likely to both work in the industry, and be penalized for their sexuality generally, with ugly labels like "slug" and "whore"

Come back when you get real.

[whathehell]

17. A "whore"?...Stupid as well as ugly..Anytime a woman's character is criticized for ANYTHING,

out come the gender slurs.

Bernie has already spoken out about the sexist comments of the 'Bernie bros', he needs

to speak out about this too.

[nc4bo]

18. What utter bullshit from you bigtree.

You are getting very messy these days, I'm just a bit surprised.

[bigtree]

21. tell your candidate's surrogates that calling their opponents whores is unacceptable

...then get back to me about my 'bullshit.'

[whathehell]

30. This Bernie supporter agrees..

It's an ugly, stupid gender slur.

[nc4bo]

33. Does the shoe fit? If it runs too close to home, Hillary supporters need to have

"The Talk" with their candidate and other grifters regardless of title, position or political affiliation.

The adjective isn't personal. It's gender neutral and it fits any politician or political party that caters to the 1% minority's interests over those of the 99% majority's interests. But you and others of the poutraged set know this very, very well.

IF the shoe doesn't fit then it doesn't apply now does it?

Don't all of a sudden act like Liberals haven't called a spade a spade as far as the wealthy and corporate interests influencing OUR party and OUR politics in an undemocratic way. We've been doing it for years against Republicans. Now suddenly because grifting, ass kissing corpo Democrats are being targeted in this election, there's this sudden outrage?

Seriously ? Why, because IOKIHDI? Well, it's NOT ok.

[Octafish]

20. How Rovian.

Nobody from Bernie's side said that.

Nice outrage. Plays great on tee vee.

[ibegurpard]

23. He didn't call Hillary a whore

But you keep on lying.

[morningfog]

25. Hillary camp is so slimy. Icky icky. Big turn off.

[m-lekktor]

44. They are ridiculous. nt

[Bobbie Jo]

62. You left out - they have cooties too!

Seemed incomplete.

On another note, not even close to the turn offs the BS camp has been cranking out of the ICK factory for the last 9 months. News articles have even been dedicated to the phenom, yeah this is a "thing."

[MattSh]

27. Too bad we can't unrec anymore...

this thread would be in negative territory.

[bigtree]

28. as it stands

...a complaint is as good as a kick.

[PeoViejo]

31. Perhaps 'Political Barfly' would have been more appropriate.

Lots of 'straphangers' there.

[Perogie]

35. But what if Hilliary is one?

I'm not saying she is but what if she is

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=corporate+whore

One who has sold more than their labor to the corporation; one who has forsaken personal values and constitution for corporate $$

[Umbral18]

36. Someone says 'Corporate Whore' and the first person you think of is?

This is just too funny.

[randr]

38. He never directly called Hillary a whore

Hillarys' supporters just assumed he was referring to her.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

41. I thought he said "Whores", plural.

As in many corporate whores.

So, not Clinton.

Or, not ONLY Clinton.

Congress is full of them. They voted to forbid Medicare from negotiating drug prices, way back, and have only gone downhill from there.



But, if the shoe fits ...

[Fawke Em]

45. He didn't call her a whore.

When is Hillary apologizing for her surrogates who pass laws hurting people?

[obamanut2012]

46. Laura Ling also named her baby after Bill Clinton

On June 3, 2010, Ling gave birth to a girl, naming her Li Jefferson Clayton, in Burbank, California. Laura and her husband decided to name the baby Li, after Laura's sister Lisa, and chose Jefferson since it was President Clinton's middle name.

[Bonobo]

48. Did he really call Hillary a whore? nt

[pinebox]

55. If the shoe fits wear it. Speeches at $250k/hr

What, did you Hillary supporters suddenly wake up to reality?
This is how America sees her and there isn't a damn thing you or anybody else can do about it.

And BTW it's "corporate whore", not "whore" she was called. There's a difference.

From 2003. I think the definition has been well known awhile now.

[Nanjeanne]

58. If I were a whore I'd be outraged to be lumped in with those corporate shills.

[grossproffit]

60. How anyone can use that word is beyond me.

[Nanjeanne]

61. I guess some ppl are very dainty. I don't find the word troublesome. I find the actions

Of many politicians much more worrisome than the word "whore".

[DisgustipatedinCA]

64. It's a godddamned shame she can't own him like she owns so many other compromised people.

[Bluenorthwest]

67. First the man said 'corporate whores' plural, thus he did not call any individual anything. Honesty

matters.

Now, the following are OP's by bigtree over the years in which many persons use the word 'whore' to describe political groups and yes, individuals. In these threads the word is used with gusto and bigtree never once raises an objection to the word 'whore' singular nor to the word 'whores' plural, with or without the modifier 'corporate' or 'media'.

If the word is so super offensive to the OP, one would think the OP would mention that when people employ that word to him repeatedly over the years but this is not the case at all:

he's a teabagger whore yes INDEED
http://www.democraticunderground.com/100238441
Kid Rock-"ever the PR whore peddling his crap "entertainment" lol nt"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021918349

I could do this all day. Apparently it is wrong to say 'corporate whores who are beholden to Big Pharma' but jus fine to say Kid Rock is a whore, Speaker of the House, a whore' in the world of bigtree.


If you want to hang a man for what he has said, you need to quote his actual words, not your revised characterization of those words.

[workinclasszero]

80. This creep is a piece of trash IMO

Not only calling Bernies female opponent a whore but stabbing in the back the very people that freed his sister in law from a horrible fate in North Korea!

What a scumball!

[kristopher]

89. I save that kind of approbation for those who sell out the public interests.

I absolutely despise people who sell their integrity to corporations and then pretend to represent the interests of the weakest among us.
That conduct is indefensible - which is why HRC's defenders resort to chickenshit like faux outrage over a common expression that is applicable and highlights her ethical shortcomings.

[workinclasszero]

90. "faux outrage over a common expression"

Then why did Bernie apologize for it?

[DesertRat]

88. K&R

[Gothmog]

94. Thanks for posting

[Beacool]

100. He's Laura Ling's brother????

So, first he insults a woman candidate by calling her a "corporate whore" and turns out that he's also an ungrateful ass to boot???? Who had to go in person to bring your sister home, Song? Kim Jong-il requested Bill Clinton's presence before agreeing to free the two women. Hillary, as SOS, had to negotiate the terms of their release.

Nice going, Song. What a jackass!!!

[Lucinda]

106. Brother in law - he's married to Lisa Ling who I believe is a Hillary supporter

and Laura's sister.

Would have loved to have overheard the coversatiosn between the Songs after this went viral last night.

[Beacool]

107. Thanks for the clarification.

Still in very poor taste.

[Lucinda]

110. Yawp. It was.

[Politicalboi]

101. She IS one

A corporate whore is someone who takes money for favors. That describes her to a Tee. He didn't say Hillary, but you guys go on and lie some more.

[Kittycat]

102. It's okay everyone. They keep spinning this crapcycle, and they think we're actually going to

support her? Never going to happen. Good luck with your unity party of none.

You all know good and well having been the long time members of DU that you claim to be, what a Corporate whore is. If you have forgotten, here is the definition entered in to the Urban Dictionary in 2003:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=corporate+whore
One who has sold more than their labor to the corporation; one who has forsaken personal values and constitution for corporate $$; meaning of "whore" belittled when preceded by the word “corporate”; person who will sell their soul for $$.
My efforts are not driven by my passion for work, but by my own gluttony, my addition to money. I have become what I once despised—forsaken myself, sacrificed my values at the corporate alter of greed. I am a corporate whore.
by Syllabus September 28, 2003

And used quite often on DU:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1727002

(hat tip to Joe the Revelator for this small sampling)

A fun look back at the use of 'Corporate Whore' on DU over the years [View all]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x429981 (Bush)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x471829 (Michelle Bauchman)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3834259 (Huckabee)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x370897 (Obama)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026282102 (Prescott Bush was a NAZI whore. 115 recs)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x778732 (Michelle Ree)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7279334 (Rick Berman)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3989371 (Everybody)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2014241 (anyone who doesn't support local buisness)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1481831 (Romney)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2072784 (The sierra club)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5393707 (Clinton, Obama, McCain)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x139160 (MSNBC)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1905122 (Jeff Landry)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125142040 (Huffpo)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014863175#post36 (Michelle Bauchman)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511580034#post33 (CNN)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023707036#post55 (Chuck Todd)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014537440 (The entire congress)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1175068&mesg_id=1175149

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5679089&mesg_id=5679933 (Obama)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8613952&mesg_id=8614150 (Rahm)

The list goes literally on and on and on.....

[Vinca]

104. I doubt he's forgotten, but for the sake of argument . . . so what?

The last time I checked we have freedom of speech in this country and he can call anyone whatever he wants. He can be grateful on one hand, but on the other be totally pissed about the way some campaigns have been bought off . . . presumably for favors down the road. He said a dumb thing. Big fucking deal.

[polly7]

105. Paul Y. Song, M.D. is a physician, progressive activist, and biotechnology executive.

Armstead (43,465 posts)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511733592

Okay now I'm REALLLY PISSED at the deflection. I just looked up who Paul Song is.

(I should be working, but I keep coming back to the unadulterated CRAP the Clinton campaign, its supporters and the MSM are perpetuating over his unfortunate use of the phrase corporate whores.)

We have sunk to a new low in sleazy politics and media coverage. Thanks for the collateral damage to the reputation of a guy who...well, here's a little background.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-y-song-md/
Paul Y. Song, M.D. is a physician, progressive activist, and biotechnology executive. He is the grandson of the late Sang Don Kim, the very first popularly elected Mayor of Seoul, South Korea. Dr. Song serves as the Executive Chairman of the Courage Campaign, a leading California-based online organization made up of more than 1 Million members who fight for a more progressive CA and country. In 2013, Dr. Song was named and served as the very first visiting fellow on healthcare policy in the California Department of Insurance. In addition, Dr. Song serves the co-chair of the Campaign for a Healthy California and on the executive board of Physicians for a National Health Program California, Liberty in North Korea, People for the American Way, and the Asian Pacific American Institute for Congressional Studies. Dr. Song graduated with honors from the University of Chicago and received his M.D. degree from George Washington University. He completed his residency in radiation oncology at the University of Chicago and did a brachytherapy fellowship at the Institute Gustave Roussy in Villejuif, France.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-y-song-md/the-real-healthcare-debat_b_9121210.html
The real debate Democrats should be having

Excerpt:
Recently, a fierce debate has been ignited within the Democratic Party regarding the merits and feasibility of a single-payer Medicare-for-All universal healthcare system. Some liberal commentators have summarily dismissed Senator Sanders’ proposal as politically unrealistic or as greatly lacking in details while championing a slightly improved status quo, and other political surrogates have spread GOP-like untruths that have no place in any honest discussion.

Regardless of ones’ individual beliefs on Medicare-for-All, it is crucial to note some indisputable facts regarding the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and the current status quo:

1. While the ACA did indeed do some very positive things like end lifetime caps on medical coverage and do away with discrimination for pre-existing conditions, it was never intended to cover every uninsured individual. In fact, after the ACA is fully implemented, the Congressional Budget Office estimates that up to 29 million residents will still remain uninsured.

2. The only area of the ACA that both Democrats and Republicans found mutual agreement on was to exclude our undocumented brothers and sisters.

3. The average insured family still pays an extra $1,017 in premiums (hidden tax) to cover the cost of care for the uninsured.

4. A recent Commonwealth Fund study revealed that 31 million people with insurance had such high out-of-pocket costs or deductibles relative to their incomes that they were UNDER-insured and that 51% of these adults reported problems with their medical bills, while 44% of all adults reported not getting care because of high co-pays and deductibles despite being insured.

5. Even after a significant decrease in the total number of uninsured, there were still 1.7 million medical related bankruptcies in 2014 of which 75% were actually insured, and this is only expected to get worse.

6. Most individuals in the U.S. cannot afford an annual deductible of $6,850 and most families of four cannot afford an annual deductible of $13,700.

7. Despite premiums increasing over 150% over the past 9 years, there is no federal insurance rate regulation.

8. Despite the fact that average branded drug prices have increased 127% during the past 8 years to the point that 73% of Americans now find the cost of drugs unreasonable, there was no mechanism to control drug prices.

9. Many states have huge underfunded retiree healthcare liabilities. California’s alone is $150 Billion.

10. Healthcare costs are currently 17.5% of GDP with over 1% of GDP spent on Prescription drugs alone, and will only continue to climb as mandatory federal health spending is projected to double in the next 10 Years.

11. Recent data from the American Journal of Public Health found that tax-funded expenditures accounted for 64.3% of all U.S. health spending. U.S. health spending for 2013 was $9,267 per capita, with government’s share being $5,960.

12. Prior to the bailout, GM spent more on healthcare for its employees than it did on steel. Rising healthcare costs are making U.S. companies less competitive and taking money away from wages and capital investments.

13. Most Americans continue to get employer-sponsored healthcare but worker’s contributions to premiums have increased 212% since 2000 while wages have only increased 54% during the same period.

14. Healthcare benefits have become the biggest source of labor negotiation strife.

So if anything, most health policy experts believe that our current healthcare system is unsustainable for individuals, businesses, states and our federal government, and to continue this status quo is what is really unrealistic.

The real debate Democrats should be having should not be about whether single payer, a highly successful proven system in so many industrialized nations, is the solution, but rather how we can collectively come together to overcome the corporate forces that derailed the ACA from providing a public option, drug price controls and insurance rate regulation, and how we get to the ultimate goal of Medicare for All.

[kristopher]

108. K&R this post. Thank you.

[polly7]

109. You're welcome, I shared if from the original poster ... I hope they don't mind.

He seems like a brilliant and caring man. Extreme frustration with corruption, especially wrt health-care and people's lives, probably played a big part in why he said it how he did.

[bigtree]

112. he's a Pharma executive

Dr. Song is a Senior Adviser at Berg Pharma, where he previously served as its Chief Medical Officer for the company’s first four years.
http://www.naisaglobal.org/team/paul-y-song/

[vintx]

119. Thanks for posting that The Shillary crowd are using Rovian tactics

And absolutely no one should be surprised.


I never had much love for the Clinton's. Always considered bill the best Republican president we bad.

Now, though? They literally make me sick.

[TheFarseer]

116. You're just anti-Asian

I knew you couldn't hide your bias against Asian people for the whole campaign. Why do you think Asian people aren't as good as you?

[hellofromreddit]

117. Asians aren't black, so they're not a real minority

[mainer]

118. And ... Hillary loses the Asian American vote with this lovely OP

After the way he's being slimed, I'm sure the women in Dr. Song's family -- women who earlier supported Hillary -- will be very happy to watch you tear him apart.