2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLeadership: Bernie apologizes for speaker's "whore" remark. Hill blames de Blasio for her racism.
And since I can't make "corporate whore" fit the title, I assume anyone reading this is aware the speaker was referring to the political whores who sell out to the healthcare/insurance industry. It's a typically used phrase in political discourse, a lot like "media whores" who take Clinton talking points and use them to distract from positive developments in the Sanders campaign, like last night's tremendous rally, or negative developments in the Clinton campaign, like racist remarks, horrible foreign policy decisions, tainted fundraising, and criminality with regards to her emails.
http://www.wcbm.com/2016/04/13/hillary-blames-de-blasio-for-racist-joke/
Hillary Blames De Blasio for RACIST Joke
April 13, 2016
Amid a firestorm of criticism from black community leaders, Hillary Clinton distanced herself Tuesday from a skit with Mayor de Blasio that included a tone-deaf racial joke about CP time.
Well, look, it was Mayor de Blasios skit, Clinton said in an interview with Cosmopolitan.com
He has addressed it, and I will really defer to him because it is something that hes already talked about.
The phrase CP time which stands for colored people time is a negative stereotype implying black people are habitually late.
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JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... is just fine.
And Bernie just threw them all under the bus.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)See it goes both ways...
Only difference is, Hillary can't own it, which is very reflective of her supporters.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)So did Hillary.
Meanwhile almost every Bernie supporter think the term whore is perfectly acceptable term to apply to their opponent.
You don't see any Hillary supporters doing that.
Personally, I hope your side keeps using it.
Bernie would win in a landslide, right?
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nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Oh the poutrage. Oh the horror. OMFG! 1111!!!
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Think that most here understand the context of a corporate/media whore to be less sexual/sexist and more a reflection of action and more often applied to men.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Hillary doesn't perform sexual favors for money. She is, however, willing to take money to have other people screwed over at the behest of her corporate clients.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Whore has different uses and definitions, so you can't assume what someone "meant" when they use it. You have to see the context. And the context of corporate whore is not about sex, it's about debasing yourself by doing something unworthy for money. It's about selling yourself for money, not physically, but your soul and your standards. And in the corporate sense, it means taking money from corporations and doing favors for them in return. There is nothing sexy or sexual about that.
Is that based on the term whore as a "prostitute"? Yes, but even the word prostitute has different definitions. It can be a woman selling sex for money, or it can be
I was wrong in an earlier thread when I said a male prostitute is called a whore...there are a lot of other terms for that, but not typically whore...but the definition of whore relating to men is a man who is whoring himself by using prostitutes.
Now the final usage of whore that is bothering everyone here is the female whore who is not a prostitute, but a "loose" woman (meaning any woman who is not married and enjoys sex...well I guess that makes me a whore ). In no way is corporate whore based on that definition.
So those of you who want to always read this word in the context of a loose woman are surely free to do so (and some of you have to turn everything into an attack on women), but in today's attitude toward sex, I don't even think it applies any more, and it is pretty obvious that it's usage in this context is not about "loose women". You can stop using it yourself, but I don't think you have the right to censor everyone else's use of the word just because you tend to be hyper sensitive about it.
BTW, I tried to find a synonym for corporate whore that might offend you less...and I can't find one. So sorry...you are not going to stop it's use.
Keep on freaking out over a political term that has been around forever and is based on the word prostitute when used to prostitute your soul, not your body for money.
Nobody used the word whore by itself. It was corporate whore. whole different meaning.
Nobody is throwing Bernie under the bus for trying to soothe your faux wounded feelings. He's just a nice and respectful guy and doesn't want to see this causing conflict.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)There are no more appropriate terms.
Got it.
You should call his campaign.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Bernie would not get up and call Hillary a liar, even when she has lied (even about him). He addresses it more carefully so as not to offend, even if it is an offensive thing for Hillary to do. He's a very respectful person.
That doesn't mean others will not call out Hillary for what she is.
Many of the things Hillary supporters here have call Bernie are just as disrespectful (and dishonest).
Karmadillo
(9,253 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Bernie showed it, Hillary claims blameless victim.
He didn't throw anyone under the bus.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... loudly declaring their support for the use of that term.
I hope you guys keep using it.
You won't here any Hillary supporter here do the same.
Bernie denounced one guy but the reality is the guy said something most of you cheered.
We won't see Bernie denouncing this sad fact about many of his supporters.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)that Bernie is the more honorable leader. Got in the way of your morning cup of Bernie hate!
Lucky for you, you can still get your Bernie supporter hate on. Hate on, brother.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)you guys are all defending.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)have issues with corporate whores, but not with "CP time"?
And why do Hillary supporters constantly try to portray her as a hapless victim?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... and its application to Hillary.
No one who supports Hillary thinks the "CP time" is a term that should be used, or applied to anyone. And no one is suggesting that the Hillary campaign adopt that term or defend its use as ACCURATE.
There are plenty of folks on DU who think Bernie's campaign should use that term and apply it to Hillary.
Maybe Bernie should do what his supporters clearly wish he would do and adopt that term.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)(Reposting from another thread)
You know good and well having been the long time members of DU that you claim to be, what a Corporate whore is. If you have forgotten, here is the definition entered in to the Urban Dictionary in 2003:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=corporate+whore
One who has sold more than their labor to the corporation; one who has forsaken personal values and constitution for corporate $$; meaning of "whore" belittled when preceded by the word corporate; person who will sell their soul for $$.
My efforts are not driven by my passion for work, but by my own gluttony, my addition to money. I have become what I once despisedforsaken myself, sacrificed my values at the corporate alter of greed. I am a corporate whore.
by Syllabus September 28, 2003
And used quite often on DU:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1727002
(hat tip to Joe the Revelator for this small sampling)
A fun look back at the use of 'Corporate Whore' on DU over the years [View all]
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x429981 (Bush)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x471829 (Michelle Bauchman)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3834259 (Huckabee)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x370897 (Obama)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026282102 (Prescott Bush was a NAZI whore. 115 recs)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x778732 (Michelle Ree)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7279334 (Rick Berman)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3989371 (Everybody)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2014241 (anyone who doesn't support local buisness)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1481831 (Romney)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2072784 (The sierra club)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5393707 (Clinton, Obama, McCain)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x139160 (MSNBC)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1905122 (Jeff Landry)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125142040 (Huffpo)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014863175#post36 (Michelle Bauchman)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511580034#post33 (CNN)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023707036#post55 (Chuck Todd)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014537440 (The entire congress)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1175068&mesg_id=1175149
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5679089&mesg_id=5679933 (Obama)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8613952&mesg_id=8614150 (Rahm)
The list goes literally on and on and on.....
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)How about buffoon-ish cartoon character?
frylock
(34,825 posts)Thanks for your most sincere concern.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)You just aren't going to see her admit it.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)for the hardcore Hillary Haters.
Please tell me you'll be commenting on Tuesday night.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)for people to be described as "whores" from the speaker's podium at events featuring presidential candidates.
I would have to disagree.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)And I'm fine with that really. I typically reject sanctimonious bullshit.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)People need to get fucking real already.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)"But Bernie isn't black, so it should be ok, right?"
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)video or direct quote, please, cuz i am not buying it
what is this shit?
Karmadillo
(9,253 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)the link was hanging up on me, so i could not read the whole article. thanks for clarifying. i could not imagine he would EVER say that. he almost never refers to clinton without saying "secretary" first, he would choke on the word "whore"
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Even though the Bern never said it.
I'm hearing HRC surrogates on cnn now. Same here, right now. Coincidence? Orders got out really quickly.
Must appeal to a certain segment of voters at all costs.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)My guess is that Bernie didn't review written speeches that the various people who spoke at Washington Square last night were going to make.
Hillary didn't even have the judgment to have the racist stereotype pulled from the skit; all she would have had to do was question it and it would have been gone.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Hillary participated in a rehearsed skit. Sanders hosted a speaker and did not approve his speech in advance.
Sorry, equating the two is bs.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)And the only ones crying racism are Bernie fans.
EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)She always deflects, and if possible, blames someone else.