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The word ''Whore'' appears 13 times on the front page of GD-P. (Original Post) Octafish Apr 2016 OP
Pavlov's, er, Brock's dogs heard a jungle jingle. morningfog Apr 2016 #1
Brock's shock troops meme du jour noiretextatique Apr 2016 #10
And tomorrow something new. Anything but the issues. morningfog Apr 2016 #12
Anita Hill noiretextatique Apr 2016 #20
The guy who called Anita Hill a crazy whore? He works for Clinton? Octafish Apr 2016 #22
Yup. Bernie really stepped in it. DanTex Apr 2016 #2
Yeah Bernie did. Oh wait..he didn't say it. 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #19
So, when YOU say something vile,... Octafish Apr 2016 #23
Word went out to Brock's socks to be poutraged. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #3
David Brock: Hillary’s Reich Minister of Propaganda Octafish Apr 2016 #24
HRC's decision to hire him, given his reprehensible history, should be condemned amborin Apr 2016 #34
Each time, reinforcing what corporatocrisy is. What are "corporate whores" and why they are bad? TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #4
BCCI to Nugan-Hand Octafish Apr 2016 #25
Sanders is a trend setter. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #5
When it comes to stopping the corporate take over of democracy is a good thing. Octafish Apr 2016 #27
One thread should be sufficient. In_The_Wind Apr 2016 #6
Up to 17. BONUS! Financial Aristocracy and the Global Police State are intimately tied together Octafish Apr 2016 #32
Ya' think any of 'em knows what it means? Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #7
And the only people actually calling HRC a youknowwhat are Hillary supporters! nc4bo Apr 2016 #8
And that he's disavowed it. morningfog Apr 2016 #9
That's good of Bernie. However, doesn't change the definition of the word nc4bo Apr 2016 #18
right--they said "corporate Democratic whores" and they immediately jumped to "Clinton" MisterP Apr 2016 #30
Counting your use of it? FSogol Apr 2016 #11
LOL! Octafish Apr 2016 #26
Yes because if there is one thing we need more of... Agschmid Apr 2016 #38
I love the charge that "whore" is a historically gendered word when VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #13
I don't know what a ''catamite'' is, but I do know a corporate escort service when I see one. Octafish Apr 2016 #35
OOF! VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #36
Fits me to a ''T'' then, being a writer. Octafish Apr 2016 #40
48,000 in Manhattan, during a rapidly closing race, terrifies them. Barack_America Apr 2016 #14
Like the big rallies in Florida, Chicago, Ohio? brooklynite Apr 2016 #16
Meanwhile, the Sanders folks haven't posted anything about what he said... brooklynite Apr 2016 #15
He didn't say much new...But the crowd didn't seem to mind because it is new to politics Armstead Apr 2016 #21
Whiners gonna whine. 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #17
Astroturf stock just tripled, smelling salts grew 10X on commodities market. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #28
some people's lives G_j Apr 2016 #29
well if you're so psychologically delicate that just a walk going down the street MisterP Apr 2016 #31
What's the outrage comparison on somebody accurately referring to Hillary as a corporate whore BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #33
Please, use either w***e or "the W word" when referencing such posts. frylock Apr 2016 #37
Why? I've been calling George W Bush a drunken coke whore since 2002 online. Octafish Apr 2016 #39
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
12. And tomorrow something new. Anything but the issues.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:17 AM
Apr 2016

It's sad that they are such mindless followers of David fucking Brock.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
24. David Brock: Hillary’s Reich Minister of Propaganda
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:45 AM
Apr 2016


David Brock: Hillary’s Reich Minister of Propaganda

BY EDWARD KLEIN/ January 26, 2016

Last week, David Brock—the pasty-faced vulgarian who operates as Hillary Clinton’s political hatchet man—hit a new low.

Brock accused Bernie Sanders of not caring about black people.

Brock squawked that a Sanders campaign’s ad, which showed the candidate at a mostly white rally, proved that “black lives don’t matter much to Bernie Sanders.”

Sanders was naturally outraged and he ordered one of his spokesmen to fire back. Hillary, said the spokesman, “should be ashamed of her association with Brock.”

And indeed, if Hillary weren’t totally shameless, she would be ashamed.

SNIP...

Despite all this, Hillary remains close to Brock. Which reminds me of that old saying: “Show me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are.”

CONTINUED...

http://edwardklein.com/david-brock-hillarys-reich-minister-of-propaganda/


Gee. Wouldn't it be great if we could field an Army of Trained Typists, HooptieWagon? Democracy would have a fightin' chance.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
25. BCCI to Nugan-Hand
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:06 AM
Apr 2016

The secret government and bankster types have a history of working together, not only to fight godless communism, but to make big bucks without anyone really being held to scrutiny, let alone account.

Zum beispiehl:



Bankers to the New World Scum Class :

BCCI and its ilk flourish because they serve the needs of spies, tyrants and crooks.

ALEXANDER COCKBURN | Alexander Cockburn writes for the Nation and other publications
The Los Angeles Times, August 01, 1991

To do their dirty business, spy agencies like the CIA need dirty money and the services of dirty banks, which is why we find the Central Intelligence Agency using the same institution as did Abu Nidal, Manuel Noriega, the Contras and the Medellin cartel.

One day they'll probably make a soap opera out of the daily business life of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, whose sordid affairs are slowly coming to light and many of whose officers have just been indicted in New York. The soap opera could use such authentic scenes as:

-- The CIA depositing millions to the account of the Contras, in straightforward defiance of U. S. law;

-- Agents of Abu Nidal making withdrawals and deposits in a BCCI London branch, where the manager has said that British intelligence monitored the account, whose balance usually stood between $50 million and $70 million;

-- Mrs. Manuel Noriega depositing millions in London on behalf of her husband in BCCI's Sloan Street branch, whose manager, Amjad Awan (son of a former head of Pakistani intelligence) will be the U.S. government's main witness against Noriega;


-- The South African government making secret deposits in the BCCI account of the Zulu Inkatha movement.


BCCI is not the first and will not be the last bank to stand at the crossroads of international knavery. In January, 1980, the body of Frank Nugan was found in a car on a back road in New South Wales, Australia. Nugan was half-owner and chairman of the Nugan Hand Bank, whose specialty was, like BCCI's, the no-questions-asked acceptance and transfer of large sums of cash from one country to another. In the wallet of the deceased Nugan were found the business cards of William Colby, former director of Central Intelligence and subsequently a legal adviser to Nugan Hand Bank, and of Bob Wilson, at that time ranking Republican on the House Armed Services Committee, and guest at a dinner Nugan had recently held.

Nugan Hand, which started its existence in Sydney, Australia, in 1973, operated in 26 countries including the United States. It shunted drug money from one haven to another; smuggled money out of the Philippines for the Marcos family account; financed such CIA schemes as the sale of a spy ship to Iran in the 1970s and the funneling of money to the UNITA rebels in Angola. Eventually the bank, its payroll resplendent with retired U.S. generals and admirals, collapsed just like BCCI in scandal and ruin.

The reason drug moguls and CIA agents stood shoulder to shoulder in line at Nugan Hand or BCCI branches was that their interests often ran in tandem, whether in Central America, the Golden Triangle of Southeast Asia or in Pakistan, home of Agha Hasan Abedi, founder of BCCI.

CONTINUED...

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-08-01/local/me-71_1_nugan-hand-bank



FAIR reports Cockburn's LA Times essays are the only places where US media mentioned the BCCI-Nugan Hand connection.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
27. When it comes to stopping the corporate take over of democracy is a good thing.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:18 AM
Apr 2016

Why the Big Money goes into the Big Lie. It's not just busting unions. They want to bust Democracy.



The plan spelled out, by a lawyer for Big Tobacco soon-to-turn Supreme Court justice:



The Lewis Powell Memo - Corporate Blueprint to Dominate Democracy

Greenpeace has the full text of the Lewis Powell Memo available for review, as well as analyses of how Lewis Powell's suggestions have impacted the realms of politics, judicial law, communications and education.

Blogpost by Charlie Cray - August 23, 2011 at 11:20
Greenpeace.org

Forty years ago today, on August 23, 1971, Justice Lewis F. Powell, Jr., an attorney from Richmond, Virginia, drafted a confidential memorandum for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce that describes a strategy for the corporate takeover of the dominant public institutions of American society.

Powell and his friend Eugene Sydnor, then-chairman of the Chamber’s education committee, believed the Chamber had to transform itself from a passive business group into a powerful political force capable of taking on what Powell described as a major ongoing “attack on the American free enterprise system.”

An astute observer of the business community and broader social trends, Powell was a former president of the American Bar Association and a board member of tobacco giant Philip Morris and other companies. In his memo, he detailed a series of possible “avenues of action” that the Chamber and the broader business community should take in response to fierce criticism in the media, campus-based protests, and new consumer and environmental laws.

SNIP...

The overall tone of Powell’s memo reflected a widespread sense of crisis among elites in the business and political communities. “No thoughtful person can question that the American economic system is under broad attack,” he suggested, adding that the attacks were not coming just from a few “extremists of the left,” but also – and most alarmingly -- from “perfectly respectable elements of society,” including leading intellectuals, the media, and politicians.

To meet the challenge, business leaders would have to first recognize the severity of the crisis, and begin marshalling their resources to influence prominent institutions of public opinion and political power -- especially the universities, the media and the courts. The memo emphasized the importance of education, values, and movement-building. Corporations had to reshape the political debate, organize speakers’ bureaus and keep television programs under “constant surveillance.” Most importantly, business needed to recognize that political power must be “assiduously cultivated; and that when necessary, it must be used aggressively and with determination – without embarrassment and without the reluctance which has been so characteristic of American business.”

CONTINUED...

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/news-and-blogs/campaign-blog/the-lewis-powell-memo-corporate-blueprint-to-/blog/36466/



In the process, their greed and lies work to destroy the planet, let alone peace and prosperity.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
32. Up to 17. BONUS! Financial Aristocracy and the Global Police State are intimately tied together
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:39 AM
Apr 2016

Not counting this one, 18

The Financial Aristocracy and the Global Police State are intimately tied together.





CIA moonlights in corporate world

In the midst of two wars and the fight against Al Qaeda, the CIA is offering operatives a chance to peddle their expertise to private companies on the side — a policy that gives financial firms and hedge funds access to the nation’s top-level intelligence talent, POLITICO has learned.

In one case, these active-duty officers moonlighted at a hedge-fund consulting firm that wanted to tap their expertise in “deception detection,” the highly specialized art of telling when executives may be lying based on clues in a conversation.

The never-before-revealed policy comes to light as the CIA and other intelligence agencies are once again under fire for failing to “connect the dots,” this time in the Christmas Day bombing plot on Northwest Flight 253.

SNIP...

But the close ties between active-duty and retired CIA officers at one consulting company show the degree to which CIA-style intelligence gathering techniques have been employed by hedge funds and financial institutions in the global economy.

The firm is called Business Intelligence Advisors, and it is based in Boston. BIA was founded and is staffed by a number of retired CIA officers, and it specializes in the arcane field of “deception detection.” BIA’s clients have included Goldman Sachs and the enormous hedge fund SAC Capital Advisors, according to spokesmen for both firms.

CONTINUED...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/32290.html#ixzz0eIFPhHBh



Sometimes a fortune rests on a mere scrap of information, jawohl.



Stratfor: executive boasted of 'trusted former CIA cronies'

By Alex Spillius, Diplomatic Correspondent
9:08PM GMT 28 Feb 2012
The Telegraph

A senior executive with the private intelligence firm Stratfor boasted to colleagues about his "trusted former CIA cronies" and promised to "see what I can uncover" about a classified FBI investigation, according to emails released by the WikiLeaks.

Fred Burton, vice president of intelligence at the Texas firm, also informed members of staff that he had a copy of the confidential indictment on Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks.

The second batch of five million internal Stratfor emails obtained by the Anonymous computer hacking group revealed that the company has high level sources within the United States and other governments, runs a network of paid informants that includes embassy staff and journalists and planned a hedge fund, Stratcap, based on its secret intelligence.

SNIP...

Mr Assange labelled the company as a "private intelligence Enron", in reference to the energy giant that collapsed after a false accounting scandal.

CONTINUED...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9111784/Stratfor-executive-boasted-of-trusted-former-CIA-cronies.html



Then, there's Booz Allen, NSA's go-to private spyhaus, vacuums and filters the right stuff for Carlyle Group, a buy-partisan business which always seems to know where and what to bomb and make a buck.



The Knights of the Revolving Door

When War is Swell: the Carlyle Group and the Middle East at War

by JEFFREY ST. CLAIR
CounterPunch, Weekend Edition September 6-8, 2013

Paris.

A couple of weeks ago, in a dress rehearsal for her next presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton, the doyenne of humanitarian interventionism, made a pit-stop at the Carlyle Group to brief former luminaries of the imperial war rooms about her shoot-first-don’t-ask-questions foreign policy.

For those of you who have put the playbill of the Bush administration into a time capsule and buried it beneath the compost bin, the Carlyle Group is essentially a hedge fund for war-making and high tech espionage. They are the people who brought you the Iraq war and all those intrusive niceties of Homeland Security. Call them the Knights of the Revolving Door, many of Carlyle’s executives and investors having spent decades in the Pentagon, the CIA or the State Department, before cashing in for more lucrative careers as war profiteers. They are now licking their chops at the prospect for an all-out war against Syria, no doubt hoping that the conflagration will soon spread to Lebanon, Jordan and, the big prize, Iran.

For a refresher course on the sprawling tentacles of the Carlyle Group, here’s an essay that first appeared in CounterPunch’s print edition in 2004. Sadly, not much has changed in the intervening years, except these feted souls have gotten much, much richer. – JSC

Across all fronts, Bush’s war deteriorates with stunning rapidity. The death count of American soldiers killed in Iraq will soon top 1000, with no end in sight. The members of the handpicked Iraqi Governor Council are being knocked off one after another. Once loyal Shia clerics, like Ayatollah Sistani, are now telling the administration to pull out or face a nationalist insurgency. The trail of culpability for the abuse, torture and murder of Iraqi detainees seems to lead inexorably into the office of Donald Rumsfeld. The war for Iraqi oil has ended up driving the price of crude oil through the roof. Even Kurdish leaders, brutalized by the Ba’athists for decades, are now saying Iraq was a safer place under their nemesis Saddam Hussein. Like Medea whacking her own kids, the US turned on its own creation, Ahmed Chalabi, raiding his Baghdad compound and fingering him as an agent of the ayatollahs of Iran. And on and on it goes.

Still not all of the president’s men are in a despairing mood. Amid the wreckage, there remain opportunities for profit and plunder. Halliburton and Bechtel’s triumphs in Iraq have been chewed over for months. Less well chronicled is the profiteering of the Carlyle Group, a company with ties that extend directly into the Oval Office itself.

Even Pappy Bush stands in line to profit handsomely from his son’s war making. The former president is on retainer with the Carlyle Group, the largest privately held defense contractor in the nation. Carlyle is run by Frank Carlucci, who served as the National Security advisor and Secretary of Defense under Ronald Reagan. Carlucci has his own embeds in the current Bush administration. At Princeton, his college roommate was Donald Rumsfeld. They’ve remained close friends and business associates ever since. When you have friends like this, you don’t need to hire lobbyists..

Bush Sr. serves as a kind of global emissary for Carlyle. The ex-president doesn’t negotiate arms deals; he simply opens the door for them, a kind of high level meet-and-greet. His special area of influence is the Middle East, primarily Saudi Arabia, where the Bush family has extensive business and political ties. According to an account in the Washington Post, Bush Sr. earns around $500,000 for each speech he makes on Carlyle’s behalf.

One of the Saudi investors lured to Carlyle by Bush was the BinLaden Group, the construction conglomerate owned by the family of Osama bin Laden. According to an investigation by the Wall Street Journal, Bush convinced Shafiq Bin Laden, Osama’s half brother, to sink $2 million of BinLaden Group money into Carlyle’s accounts. In a pr move, the Carlyle group cut its ties to the BinLaden Group in October 2001.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/09/06/when-war-is-swell-the-carlyle-group-and-the-middle-east-at-war/



This barely scratches the surface. The reality is that underneath what shows for public navigators is one enormous iceberg made from blood-red ice, invisible to the proles and serfs who are doing their best to keep afloat in a frozen sea of austerity, endless war and debt servitude. But, hey! As long as it LOOKS like a democracy, who cares if it's run by the rich?.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
8. And the only people actually calling HRC a youknowwhat are Hillary supporters!
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:15 AM
Apr 2016

They hate that Bernie himself never said it.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
18. That's good of Bernie. However, doesn't change the definition of the word
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:25 AM
Apr 2016

Corporate whore.

I'm surprised it hasn't been added to a dictionary yet.

Don't want to be referred as one, don't behave as one or support those who put interests of a minority of people over those of the majority for personal, business or financial favors.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
30. right--they said "corporate Democratic whores" and they immediately jumped to "Clinton"
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:25 AM
Apr 2016

delightful

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
26. LOL!
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:15 AM
Apr 2016

At least one of Hillary's people use "whore" on the GD-P front page in two separate OPs they started.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
13. I love the charge that "whore" is a historically gendered word when
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:17 AM
Apr 2016

I can produce a Latin poet from early times who referred to a pair of other (male) poets as whores themselves. Anyone here taken an English Lit class far enough to know what a "catamite" is?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
35. I don't know what a ''catamite'' is, but I do know a corporate escort service when I see one.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:52 PM
Apr 2016

Preserving welfare for the wealthy and instituting austerity for the great unwashed masses of mankind is a privilege, too.



Hillary Clinton Speaks from Peter G. Peterson Institute on Foreign Aid

C-SPAN aired Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's remarks at the Peter G. Peterson Institute. Pete Peterson made billions as a private equity underwriter (PEU). He used $1 billion to establish his institute, focused on getting America's financial house of cards in order (without asking corporations or the rich to step up in any major way.)

[font color="green"]America believes government cannot do anything competently, thus the private sector is the answer. That goes for international development.[/font color]

SNIP...

That requires partners. Giants of philanthropy gathered in New York in 2009. This list included Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Pete Peterson, George Soros, David Rockefeller, and Oprah Winfrey.

SNIP...

Clinton stated in her talk:

[font color="green"][font size="5"]Aid chases need, investment chases opportunity.[/font size][/font color]


[font color="green"]She mentioned the Clinton Foundation as a partner. President Bill Clinton privatized government functions during his two terms, benefiting multiple private equity underwriters.[/font color]

CONTINUED...

http://stateofthedivision.blogspot.com/2010/01/hillary-clinton-speaks-from-peter-g.html


And money trumps peace.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
40. Fits me to a ''T'' then, being a writer.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:11 PM
Apr 2016

Still laughing! All the way to the poor house.

Here's something really mannish depressive:



After the coup on behalf of American corporate interests in 1973*, the Chicago Boys would roll out Austerity for Chile, a model for "government hands-off capitalism," the fiscal blueprint for our present age.

One very interesting part for those following the Democratic primaries is then-President Bill Clinton's interest in the Chilean model for "privatization" of social security.



President Clinton and the Chilean Model.

By José Piñera

Midnight at the House of Good and Evil

"It is 12:30 at night, and Bill Clinton asks me and Dottie: 'What do you know about the Chilean social-security system?'” recounted Richard Lamm, the three-term former governor of Colorado. It was March 1995, and Lamm and his wife were staying that weekend in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House.

I read about this surprising midnight conversation in an article by Jonathan Alter (Newsweek, May 13, 1996), as I was waiting at Dulles International Airport for a flight to Europe. The article also said that early the next morning, before he left to go jogging, President Bill Clinton arranged for a special report about the Chilean reform produced by his staff to be slipped under Lamm's door.

That news piqued my interest, so as soon as I came back to the United States, I went to visit Richard Lamm. I wanted to know the exact circumstances in which the president of the world’s superpower engages a fellow former governor in a Saturday night exchange about the system I had implemented 15 years earlier.

Lamn and I shared a coffee on the terrace of his house in Denver. He not only was the most genial host to this curious Chilean, but he also proved to be deeply motivated by the issues surrounding aging and the future of America. So we had an engaging conversation. At the conclusion, I ventured to ask him for a copy of the report that Clinton had given him. He agreed to give it to me on the condition that I do not make it public while Clinton was president. He also gave me a copy of the handwritten note on White House stationery, dated 3-21-95, which accompanied the report slipped under his door. It read:

Dick,
Sorry I missed you this morning.
It was great to have you and Dottie here.
Here's the stuff on Chile I mentioned.
Best,
Bill.


Three months before that Clinton-Lamm conversation about the Chilean system, I had a long lunch in Santiago with journalist Joe Klein of Newsweek magazine. A few weeks afterwards, he wrote a compelling article entitled,[font color="green"] "If Chile can do it...couldn´t North America privatize its social-security system?" [/font color]He concluded by stating that "the Chilean system is perhaps the first significant social-policy idea to emanate from the Southern Hemisphere." (Newsweek, December 12, 1994).

I have reasons to think that probably this piece got Clinton’s attention and, given his passion for policy issues, he became a quasi expert on Chile’s Social Security reform. Clinton was familiar with Klein, as the journalist covered the 1992 presidential race and went on anonymously to write the bestseller Primary Colors, a thinly-veiled account of Clinton’s campaign.

“The mother of all reforms”

While studying for a Masters and a Ph.D. in economics at Harvard University, I became enamored with America’s unique experiment in liberty and limited government. In 1835 Alexis de Tocqueville wrote the first volume of Democracy in America hoping that many of the salutary aspects of American society might be exported to his native France. I dreamed with exporting them to my native Chile.

So, upon finishing my Ph.D. in 1974 and while fully enjoying my position as a Teaching Fellow at Harvard University and a professor at Boston University, I took on the most difficult decision in my life: to go back to help my country rebuild its destroyed economy and democracy along the lines of the principles and institutions created in America by the Founding Fathers. Soon after I became Secretary of Labor and Social Security, and in 1980 I was able to create a fully funded system of personal retirement accounts. Historian Niall Ferguson has stated that this reform was “the most profound challenge to the welfare state in a generation. Thatcher and Reagan came later. The backlash against welfare started in Chile.”

But while de Tocqueville’s 1835 treatment contained largely effusive praise of American government, the second volume of Democracy in America, published five years later, strikes a more cautionary tone. He warned that “the American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money.” In fact at some point during the 20th century, the culture of self reliance and individual responsibility that had made America a great and free nation was diluted by the creation of [font color="green"] “an Entitlement State,”[/font color] reminiscent of the increasingly failed European welfare state. What America needed was a return to basics, to the founding tenets of limited government and personal responsibility.

[font color="green"]In a way, the principles America helped export so successfully to Chile through a group of free market economists needed to be reaffirmed through an emblematic reform. I felt that the Chilean solution to the impending Social Security crisis could be applied in the USA.[/font color]

CONTINUED...

http://www.josepinera.org/articles/articles_clinton_chilean_model.htm



Not that this is what Ms. Clinton would do, but it bears repeating and putting in writing on the Party Platform: Democratic solutions work because they are Democratic and put We the People first.

* Kissinger ignored a recommendation from his top deputy on the NSC, Viron Vaky, who strongly advised against covert action to undermine Allende. On September 14, Vaky wrote a memo to Kissinger arguing that coup plotting would lead to "widespread violence and even insurrection." He also argued that such a policy was immoral: "What we propose is patently a violation of our own principles and policy tenets .… If these principles have any meaning, we normally depart from them only to meet the gravest threat to us, e.g. to our survival. Is Allende a mortal threat to the U.S.? It is hard to argue this." -- http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB437/


Now that I see that again, I don't feel so bad.

Thank you for adding to what we as in DU know, VulgarPoet! I also appreciate you grokking what the heck is at stake.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
14. 48,000 in Manhattan, during a rapidly closing race, terrifies them.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:18 AM
Apr 2016

This one word by an early speaker is all they have to try to discredit that.

Won't work.

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
15. Meanwhile, the Sanders folks haven't posted anything about what he said...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:19 AM
Apr 2016

...I'm guessing he didn't say anything new?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
21. He didn't say much new...But the crowd didn't seem to mind because it is new to politics
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:34 AM
Apr 2016

Personally I don't botehr to watch his speeches because they are repetitious.

But he is saying things that tepid, pandering manipulatve politicians never mention for fear of offending their Corporate/Wall St masters -- er donors. Or who tailor their messages and policies so they can follow the Clintons and collect that lucrative personal Pot O' Gold at the end of the rainbow following their terms of office.

People are happy to see what they know in the guts being FINALLY addressed by a politician...and others are finally being given a context for all the crap they know is wrong with the DC auction house.

So yeah, he can keep giving the same speech as far as I'm concerned.

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
28. Astroturf stock just tripled, smelling salts grew 10X on commodities market.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:20 AM
Apr 2016

And reason took a dive, it may not make a comeback until well into Trump's second term.

Fucking eternal candidate who couldn't just let things be, vulgar ambition, do anything to win.

She is breaking the system, and people are helping her.

Fuck this shit

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
31. well if you're so psychologically delicate that just a walk going down the street
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:25 AM
Apr 2016

would kill you stone dead at all the PATRIARCHY, boring is all you can take

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
33. What's the outrage comparison on somebody accurately referring to Hillary as a corporate whore
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:45 AM
Apr 2016

versus a Hillary backer inaccurately comparing Bernie's rally in Washington Square last night to a Nazi rally?

Maybe 10:1 faux outrage over the accurate corporate whore label?

If Hillary's backers don't want her to be called a corporate whore, they should tell her to release the transcripts of all her speeches to corporations, give all the money from the speeches to charity (actual charities, not the Clinton Foundation), and give back the bribes corporations have given to Hillary's SuperPacs and to the Clinton Foundation.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
39. Why? I've been calling George W Bush a drunken coke whore since 2002 online.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:58 PM
Apr 2016

Have to take my word on it. Here's the oldest I can find, 2004:

Know your BFEE: Homeland Czar & Petro-Turd Bernie Kerik

Of course, before I found DU I'd been calling him that since about 1988, when I read about Project PULL helping him get out of a big legal jam in Houston in the early 1970s. This is from 2005 on that:

Know your BFEE: George W Bush did "community service" at Project P.U.L.L.

ETA: Sorry to sound snippy, Frylock. I will be more considerate when using that word.

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