2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumYes, we all know what "corporate whore" means, but
the phrase still includes a loaded word with intense negative connotations, especially when aimed at a woman who is running. It's a bad word choice when referring to an opponent or that opponent's supporters. Bernie didn't say it. Someone who introduced him did. Bernie has apologized for the usage and said he'd never say that. OK. I'm fine with that, and don't hold it against Senator Sanders.
And yet, he's behind in all measurements of this primary race, from popular vote to delegate count. What that means is that he can either do better, hold his ground, or do worse. Small things can make big differences and even turn a potential win into a loss. That has happened in the past, and will happen in the future. It may be happening right now.
Bernie's a nice guy, if a little gruff and plain-spoken. It's not Bernie. It's those around him, I'm afraid, who are injecting negativity and name-calling into the campaign. Some are on his campaign staff. Others are avid supporters of his candidacy.
Months ago, I posted here that I was changing my support from Sanders to Clinton. Not that my support means anything, really, but that was my decision. In that post, I said that it was largely due to his supporters, and that hasn't changed as far as I can tell. While a candidate can't order supporters to act in any particular way, supporters' actions and words can still affect a campaign for better or worse.
Some people who identify as Sanders supporters are attacking elected officials who are superdelegates on their Facebook pages and elsewhere. Some of those are using highly-charged language in those attacks. My own House representative had to start deleting those comments from her FB page, since they were being posted on everything on the page. Being called a traitor and told that her support of Clinton would cause her to be primaried is not something to leave on a public FB page. Others, like Al Franken, are also being hammered on their own FB pages, on Twitter, and elsewhere, often in vile ways and with ugly name-calling.
Now, the people doing those things may not even be actual Sanders supporters. Who can say? But, that's the tone that is becoming the norm. That doesn't help the candidate in any way. In fact, it can work strongly against the candidate. It's being noticed, too, in media read by many, many Democratic voters and independents. We see it here on DU, as well, but that's far less important to primary results, frankly.
I changed my support. Nothing I've seen has shifted me from the reasons for that change. Some will say I never actually supported Sanders, but they're wrong. I can't support a candidate after so many of that candidate's supporters are using vile attacks on the opponent as a campaign strategy. Why? Because it's a losing strategy. It fails to generate support, but succeeds in shifting support to the candidate who is being attacked.
And there it is, from my point of view. I'm sure that many will disagree with me, but if Bernie Sanders fails in his bid for the Democratic nomination by a small margin, you can write that up to negative campaigning in general and vile attacks will have played an important role in hurting the Senator's chances.
On to the convention. That's where this will finally end, and we'll actually have a nominee to support.
This post is my opinion. Thanks for reading it.
revbones
(3,660 posts)Could you provide a link? I mean, since you wrote all that about a fake outrage, surely you wrote something similar about the "CP time" stuff right? Maybe you did, and if so I would certainly like to see it.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)the African American group. I don't respond to everything on DU.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)It's just how people tend to behave on the internet. This is the first campaign where Twitter plays a prominent role. The nastiness on the part of Bernie supporters is increased because he has a larger share of younger people.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)So you changed your support from Bernie to Hillary because of "vile attacks" by his supporters, when those vile attacks are mostly fabrications by Hillary Inc.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)In the end, I will be voting for the Democratic candidate, who I hope will win. I support the primary candidate who is most likely to win in the general election.
My reasons for choosing whom to support are my own. I suppose yours are too.
athena
(4,187 posts)I also supported Bernie enough in the beginning to donate to him, but the subtle sexism I noticed in his behavior and in his campaign turned me against him.
Bernie's campaign (more specifically, his supporters, but Bernie could have stopped the trend early on and chose not to) has made it acceptable to mock and dismiss the concerns of anyone who complains about sexism. That is lasting damage that will linger long after this election is over.
quickesst
(6,280 posts)... that as this thread evolves, the replies to your OP will more than justify your reasons for changing your support from Bernie Sanders to Hillary Clinton. At this point, for whatever reasons, I am convinced they just can't seem to help themselves.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)DU is not the only thing that affects my decisions. Not by a long shot.
quickesst
(6,280 posts)... but it is a perfect example for that aspect. No matter the outcome of this primary, I will vote for the nominee of the Democratic Party. Unfortunately, my zeal for Bernie Sanders as my second choice has diminished due in part because I believe he has succumbed to the less desirable influences of his supporters rather than inspiring his supporters to a higher level of morality. Still, a thousand times better than Trump or Cruz.
ChickenGuru
(53 posts)"Everything after the but, is bullshit."
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)I'll have to use that. My current pet peeve along the same lines is anyone who starts a sentence with "well." Everything that follows that is bullshit.
"Why isn't my car ready? You said it would be ready at 4 p.m."
"Well . . . " (the rest is bullshit)
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"How come you haven't finished the Crenshaw report that was due today?"
"Well ...." (the rest is bullshit)
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Suit up, I hope your armor is thick.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)everything thrown at it.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)... besides issues, transcripts and mishandling of state secrets.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)DU doesn't really matter in those.
athena
(4,187 posts)that talks about the sexism in the way we have twisted the meanings of words, often to make them mean "whore":
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/27/eight-words-sexism-heart-english-language
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)way when it comes to women. Much of our rudest language targets women, frankly. Very sad.