Does it matter if Bernie is worth 300k or 800k most of it because of the value of his house

[Csainvestor]

He raised 4 kids, not cheap.

Because he owns (free and clear) real estate that he bought with his salary doesn't mean anything.

The real question is how did the Nancy Pelosi family make tens of millions while in office? How did Diane Feinstien family earn tens of millions while in office? How did the Clinton Family make over 2 billion with the clinton foundation over the last 15 years?

Bernie owns a house, Most other corporate democrats own mansions, and shell corporations.

[hrmjustin]

1. Then why not release the taxes?

[revbones]

2. I'm sure you want the transcripts released too right? nt

[hrmjustin]

3. And i'm sure you want his taxes realease too right?

[morningfog]

4. Yes. Let's have both sets of documents. I favor transparency.

[revbones]

5. Honestly, yes.

But I believe in actual transparency. Do you?

[hrmjustin]

9. I have no issue with her releasing or not releasing her transcripts.

I am just not going to get worked up over it.

But if Sanders is going to call for her transcripts to be released than he should release his taxes.

[revbones]

11. Nice dodge. nt

[hrmjustin]

13. Maybe it is a dodge but Sanders is a hypocrite.

Calling for transparency when you refuse to be transparent is hypocrisy.

[revbones]

22. By your logic so is Hillary. She says she's transparent. nt

[anotherproletariat]

17. I'll take it...it was a private speech made by a private citizen.

Since she had not even decided to make another presidential run at the time she is under no legal, moral or ethical obligation to release what is clearly her own intellectual property.

[revbones]

25. By that logic, neither is Bernie to release his tax returns.

But, I'll bet he does and she does not. And that, is the difference.

[anotherproletariat]

28. It is the expected norm that all presidential candidates release tax returns.

If he doesn't do so, it is at his own peril. The logic is that no one has ever before in the history of presidential politics, released private speech transcripts, and for some reason the woman in the race is always held to a higher standard.

[revbones]

29. According to you.

Sheesh. You like pretzels? Because that's what your logic resembles.

[anotherproletariat]

30. Good one. Please post list of all presidential candidates that have released transcripts of

private speeches. Then we can see if it is the expected norm.

[revbones]

31. I didn't claim it was the "norm" as you did. I related her claim of transparency.

Look, you know this just goes back and forth. Either you're a fan of transparency or not. You know she's hiding something and you just want to defend your candidate. It's a shame you have to twist yourself up like that and be hypocritical in order to do so.

[anotherproletariat]

32. No...I honestly feel that a speech she wrote and delivered in private is her own intellectual

property. Why would any organization pay for a speech they can read online for free? I think it comes down to trust more than transparency. I realize that most Sanders supporters have bought into the repubs 'dishonest' label they've been cultivating for 20+ years, but time and time again, Hillary has shown that she works for the betterment of the lower and middle classes and the disadvantage. In our society, one of the best ways to help the underclasses is from a position of power - which includes money.

I don't think that anything she said in a speech is going to sway her actions as president. That is where we differ. For the record, I don't really care about Sanders taxes - except that for his image it is a no win situation, so might be useful in ending this darn primary sooner rather than later.

[AgingAmerican]

12. Maybe he wrote off his dental work!

Or something equally innocuous for Hillary supporters to freak out over...

[hrmjustin]

15. I think it is an investment.

He might have investments in companies he regularly scolds.

[AgingAmerican]

19. You just have no evidence?

[hrmjustin]

21. Thus I said think. It is just a theory.

[AgingAmerican]

23. It doesnt rise to the level of theory

[anotherproletariat]

18. I've only seen him on TV, but doubt he's spent much on dental work... nt

[AgingAmerican]

24. But if he did Hillary supporters will thoroughly investigate

[lumberjack_jeff]

6. You're wasting your breath. They are talking to people who don't know between millions and billions

Their outreach is targeted to that demographic; those who can't understand policy, but do understand that "million" is a lot and "whore" is mean.

[hollysmom]

7. most of my value is my house as well,

wasn't always that way, but being laid off at 58 and living off savings until 62, it is true now.

[Jitter65]

8. For someone who never had a decent paying job until he was 40 yrs old...that's pretty good. nt

[Csainvestor]

14. Almost anybody that bought real estate decades ago should be doing ok now.

Houses were much cheaper in the 80's is that shocking to anyone?

The majority of Bernie's net worth is tied up in real estate that he owns free and clear.
Is it scandalous to you, that he bought a houses in vermont decades ago for probably next to nothing, and that it has appreciated nicely in price?

[Hoyt]

10. Sanders is still in the upper 5%.

[Csainvestor]

16. If you bought a house in VT decades ago

you would be doing pretty well today as well.

[Hoyt]

20. And he and his wife's salary/benefits place them in the upper 5% too.

[AgingAmerican]

34. Ga$p!

[nichomachus]

26. Hillary makes more in a weekend of secret speeches

Than Bernie's entire net worth.

[Else You Are Mad]

27. Please see the link below...

Here is a good explanation of the net worth of the members of Congress:


https://ballotpedia.org/Net_worth_of_United_States_Senators_and_Representatives


Notice, even the upper number that Hillary supporters give Sanders net worth, is $10 million lower than the average Senator.

[BernieforPres2016]

33. That's why I corrected somebody who used the $300K number the other day

I knew the Hillary shills would jump in on it.

Hillary described herself and Bill as dead broke when they were worth more money than Bernie is now.