2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWe should just stop using the word whore.
When I was growing up a guy who enjoyed sex was called a stud. A girl or woman who enjoyed sex was called a whore.
Before the Hite report and "The Feminine Mystique" sex was defined by men. Women had to protect their reputation and men had to score.
Today we understand how prehistoric that all was. Using the word whore as a derogatory term is a throwback to those barbaric days.
longship
(40,416 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)jonno99
(2,620 posts)discussion is non-issue.
We all know what is meant by "corporate whore" - and we all know it has nothing to do with a sexual act.
LET IT GO...
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)The word has a sexual context no matter how it is used. You have to always refer back to it's original meaning when applying it to someone.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)gender argument over...Now about those people dying because of our healthcare system he was referring to
jonno99
(2,620 posts)phrases a meaning that they KNOW was not intended.
As I stated earlier, we both know that "corporate whore" has nothing to do with a sexual act. And if that is true, then why CHOOSE to be offended - trying to make it mean what we know it does not?
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)to use the N word, because they didn't mean it in a racist way. It's not OK and neither is the W word.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)Is using the W word nice? Of course not. However, when used with the modifier "corporate" in political speech - to describe those who are sellouts, it is an apt description.
"corporate whore" may not be a phrase you choose to use, it's probably not something I would choose to use. But to suggest that the use of the phrase is implying that the subject is performing actual sexual acts/favors is a bit of a knew-jerk reaction - imho...
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)The 'n' word never had other definitions. It just means a derogatory term for a dark-skinned person.
Whore has different uses and definitions, so you can't assume what someone "meant" when they use it. You have to see the context. And the context of corporate whore is not about sex, it's about debasing yourself by doing something unworthy for money. It's about selling yourself for money, not physically, but your soul and your standards. And in the corporate sense, it means taking money from corporations and doing favors for them in return. There is nothing sexy or sexual about that.
Is that based on the term whore as a "prostitute"? Yes, but even the word prostitute has different definitions. It can be a woman selling sex for money, or it can be
I was wrong in an earlier thread when I said a male prostitute is called a whore...there are a lot of other terms for that, but not typically whore...but the definition of whore relating to men is a man who is whoring himself by using prostitutes.
Now the final usage of whore that is bothering everyone here is the female whore who is not a prostitute, but a "loose" woman (meaning any woman who is not married and enjoys sex...well I guess that makes me a whore ). And in no way is corporate whore based on that definition.
So those of you who want to always read this word in the context of a loose woman are surely free to do so (and some of you have to turn everything into an attack on women), but in today's attitude toward sex, I don't even think it applies any more, and it is pretty obvious that it's usage in this context is not about "loose women". You can stop using it yourself, but I don't think you have the right to censor everyone else's use of the word just because you tend to be hyper sensitive about it.
BTW, I tried to find a synonym for corporate whore that might offend you less...and I can't find one. So sorry...you are not going to stop it's use.
But then, this isn't really even about the use of this word, is it? This is about trying to bash Bernie again.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)By calling someone a whore you are saying that person is as bad as a person who takes money for sex. There just isn't any way around it.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Thus, obviating your argument entirely.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)a "whore" is one thing, to call them a "corporate whore" is a completely different thing.
The first suggests that sex is involved - by definition.
The second has nothing to do with sex - by definition.
corporate whore:
One who has sold more than their labor to the corporation; one who has forsaken personal values and constitution for corporate $$; meaning of "whore" belittled when preceded by the word corporate; person who will sell their soul for $$.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=corporate+whore
berniepdx420
(1,784 posts)thousands of dollars from her corporate masters. The use of the word whore last night was directed at Congress.. and with the quid pro quot taking place on the hill since Citizen's United ... the word is on point...
This is such a waste of time... there are big important structural issues we need to deal with... come on get real
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Those of delicate sensibilities and susceptible to gasping in outrage.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)but that would mean I would have to stoop to a level I wouldn't go to.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Of course, I'd like you to identify the corporations paying me. I would like to bill them.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Not sure why they use two words when there is one word in the English language that meets it's definition. Yes I do actually. Because in this instance it was being directed at a women.
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Looks like someone "evolved"...
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)3. Why do repubs whore for rich folks?
Do they feel a moral obligation to help wealthy people grow their wealth?
We have a majority of people in congress who feel it is better to let the 99% suffer a little more than to let a billionaire make a little less this year.
Why?
OOPS.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)It's stone cold hypocrisy.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)(As I'm sure you know.)
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...the hoops they have to jump through are astounding.
Broward
(1,976 posts)jonno99
(2,620 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)sell our country to corporations and other greedy entities - men or women, they are whores.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)tell me how to talk or think is the day hell freezes over.
snot
(10,530 posts)BreakfastClub
(765 posts)an extremely sexist and misogynistic history. It shouldn't be used. Period.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)For bought and sold politicians
randome
(34,845 posts)It's always easier to use a slur instead of having to construct actual ideas and sentences and such. No matter how 'in vogue' those slurs are.
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AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And it fits in many cases
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)But that's par for the course for Hillary's misogynistic hate club, regardless of how "progressive" they might imagine themselves to be.
At least the Republican misogynists are in the party that is suitable for them.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)If the shoe fits...
Beacool
(30,250 posts)The double standard is alive and well in the corporate world and in politics too. The word "whore" should not be used in any form against a woman running for office. There are other terms that convey the same message as "corporate whore" that are far less offensive.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)The word is not new to the Clintons in ANY context.
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)Hillary Rodham Clinton has been called a "whore" ever since she boldly and courageously refused to be the always-polite, always-smiling, legs-always-crossed First Lady that has always been expected of the President's wife ("Stay in the kitchen, dear...the men are talking!" ). She has sacrificed so, so much in terms of popularity and "likability" for that. Republicans and misogynists of all political stripes have always hated her for it. That a disturbing number of Sanders supporter utterly refuse to appreciate this can only mean either two things: one, they don't "get it" at all; or two, they do get it and it is for exactly that reason why they hate Hillary.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)And a couple of decades ago wasn't "barbaric" or "prehistoric". If you care about words so much, quit exaggerating.
In some ways we have fallen back from where we were then: overall quality of life for the most people in general, education the best schools in the world (including free college), job security and unions, good infrastructure, food that was local instead of from halfway across the world, low medical costs (most people simply paid doctors and hospital bills without insurance), and news that wasn't entertainment come to mind just off the top of my head.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)3 : a venal or unscrupulous person ?
Or is that not PC enough for ya?
btw: venal: willing to do dishonest things in return for money
Autumn
(45,109 posts)use that word. So you might want to say I should just stop using the word whore. You don't get to decide what we other people do.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Apparently the op has evolved and doesn't want to use the word anymore but that's his decision, he should leave it at that.
Autumn
(45,109 posts)corporate agenda I intend to call them fucking corporate whores. With no fucking apology
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)What's obscene is the amount of money in politics and how that used to be something we all agreed upon.
Autumn
(45,109 posts)She hasn't been in the Senate for years.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)And why they're trying to paint Bernie as the corrupt one.
BunkieBandit
(82 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Decades later I still believe that's the case.
How old are you?
Whores were women who got paid for sex. Now they're called sex workers.
Corporate whores were/are political sellouts who take $$ in exchange for political favors.
I see you've been outed as a using the word whore yourself, even recently. That would seem to indicate that you are a hypocrite.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)w4rma
(31,700 posts)I consider the word "whore" to be genderless, but many don't. What would be a good genderless alternative?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)in some way or another to avoid looking like a fully craven hypocrite. It's a thought.
Perogie
(687 posts)add a little potato salad to your post to make it more interesting
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)just are plain old ideologically inclined to do so for free.
All of this bluster, bellyaching, and handwringing is just to provide cover to those selling OUR asses out for their own lousy benefit and that of their well heeled class interest.
You may have inadvertently fumbled into a good point though, these folks aren't whores they are pimps and slaves because they sell our asses not their own, their's is just a renewable lease.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)tralala
(239 posts)But, now I understand
Prism
(5,815 posts)Frankly, I'm tired of people holding the rest of us to standards we no longer keep. If you think no one's called a male whore, you've not been out of your house in about 20 years,
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)Karmadillo
(9,253 posts)vocabulary of any words they might find offensive.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... any message with that word in the title will be automatically trashed.