"What the f*uck do you think you're doing? I know who that whore is. I know what she's here for."

[phleshdef]

"What the f*uck do you think you're doing? I know who that whore is. I know what she's here for. Get her out of here."
From the book :The Agenda: Inside the Clinton White House" by Bob Woodward. p. 245 - Hillary to President-Elect Clinton as she spots him talking to one of his reputed girlfriends at a going away celebration the day they left Little Rock for Washington, D.C.


http://www.amazon.com/The-Agenda-Inside-Clinton-White/dp/0743274075


And yes, I know Woodward has his own agenda.... just throwing it out there.

[VulgarPoet]

1. Ain't that some shit? eom

[Jackie Wilson Said]

2. Just throwing what out there, anything that will elect the GOP if Bernie loses?

[phleshdef]

3. Um, no.

[Fawke Em]

4. Umm... no. That Hillary is reported to have used the "whore" word.

[roguevalley]

12. what bothers me if that's true is that Bill brought one of his broads to a party with his wife

present. if that doesn't say I hate women I don't know what does.

[karynnj]

23. Not so much I hate women, but I can do what ever I want

It was inconsiderate, especially towards his wife, and was extremely rash as this becoming known then when he was just becoming President would have really started things off on the wrong foot.

That HRC referred to a specific woman, who had presumably had an affair with her husband, is not the least bit troubling to me. It does make me question Bill Clinton's values - on both a moral level, but more importantly, that he would risk his moral authority as the US President by continuing to welcome these women to events where they could be seen by both HRC and the media.

[Fawke Em]

53. They both seem to suffer from the "I can do what ever I want" syndrome.

[brush]

16. In the instance described, she was using it correctly.

What wife wouldn't.

But a surrogate introducing a male candidate and referring to his female opponent as a "whore"?

You're not dense. You have to know that's a huge no-no.

Your post is a fail.

[phleshdef]

22. Nope. Its not a fail. And you don't GET to make that decision, sorry.

Admittedly though, I really just threw this out there to be a little bit devious.

[brush]

24. Bernie himself called Song's use of the word whore a fail so, IMO your post falls in same category.

[phleshdef]

25. No, Bernie isn't 15 years old. He doesn't go around yelling "fail" on the Internet.

[brush]

31. And Bernie doesn't post pre-adolesent crap just to be a little bit devious

[phleshdef]

36. Adolescent.

And I don't know any 10 year old children who are out there researching and posting about Bill Clinton screwing around on his wife. Maybe you do...you would have to in order for that last response to make any sense whatsoever.

[brush]

41. You posted it. But no more tit for tat. I'm done with you.

[phleshdef]

44. In other words, you realize you went into a battle of wits unarmed...

...and now you are going to slink away and find a target you can work with.

[Zen Democrat]

28. Oh, it's a no-no? Are we in kindergarten now?

I'm not dense, and Song wasn't introducing Bernie, and was not specifically talking about Hillary, perhaps inclusively, but to corporate Democratic whores. More than one. He said he was talking about Congress, and if the shoe fits .... I know of quite a few corporate whores in the Congress, some women, some men, mostly men.

But the term is well-worn and has been used here for the decade+ that I've been a member of DU. That term is neither a huge no-no, or even a little one.

If you don't want to use the term, I have no problem with that. But don't tell me how to think and/or speak. Hillary's crowd is becoming the Thought Police!

[brush]

37. Bernie himself called it inappropriate.

Of course it was, a Sanders surrogate calling his opponent, another dem and a woman a whore.

No way to justify it which is why it's being talked about everywhere today and why Bernie disavowed it.

Bad timing too for his campaign.

[Fawke Em]

54. She was never called a whore.

The guy was referring to all the congress people, men and women, who suck at the corporate teet to the detriment of the average citizen.

[TM99]

68. Y'all just have to make

shit up don't you?

Can you ever not lie about something.

Song never called Clinton a 'corporate Democratic whore'. That fact is well established, but I do find it interesting that y'all think he did which reveals more about what you are psychologically doing that you may want to admit.

[Politicalboi]

30. You're nuts

She was the one insulting women. The other was recognizing Corporate Whores which she is one. You fail.

[brush]

33. Bernie too then since he called it inappropriate.

[Ed Suspicious]

51. Get fucking real. Good lord.

[Contrary1]

56. It was only used correctly if Bill was paying the woman. n/t

[tk2kewl]

6. I know...

it's horrible to face the truth of who she is (and for that matter who her husband is)

she is who she is, and pointing it out 'aint no crime

[DisgustipatedinCA]

11. Nope. Just setting some rank hypocrites straight.

[notadmblnd]

5. Hey, we know Hillary would never use that word towards a fellow woman

We also know that Gloria Steienem would never say young women only support Senator Sanders- for access to the boys. Nor would Madelyn Albright say that women who don't support Hillary will burn in hell.

[snagglepuss]

50. //THIS//

[anigbrowl]

7. Oh well it must be true

Hillary allegedly used the same word 25 years ago according to a friend of a friend so it's totally cool. Other kids are doing it so why can't I?

[phleshdef]

18. We know for a fact that Bill screwed around on her a lot.

Thats their business. I'm just bringing a little levity to the subject.

[Merryland]

8. As a feminist,

I resent the way Clinton and her millionaire girlfriends use faux feminist outrage against Sanders and thereby the millions of working women who need & deserve a living wage of at minimum $15 an hour that Bernie would give them.

[VulgarPoet]

10. And her surrogates.

[Vinca]

9. A taste of things to come in the general election.

What a wonderful trip it will be down Clinton Memory Lane.

[Avalon Sparks]

13. Although I think Hillary is the wrong choice for this country

And I find the acceptance of all the influence money completely corrupt.

Calling a woman that is messing with your husband a whore, is acceptable under any circumstances. I'll take Hillarys side on that any day of the week.

[BernieforPres2016]

17. I find it more objectionable that a woman would stay with a man who publicly humiliates her

The women wouldn't have been hanging around Bill if he hadn't put out the signals and instructed his closest aides and security detail to provide them with access to him, or even to recruit them on his behalf. Ordinary people can't just walk up to Presidents or governors, and Presidents and governors can't just wander off on their own.

The current Alabama governor is under fire for an affair with a woman who was making several hundred thousand dollars a year in dark money without being on the state payroll. I just read an article yesterday about the many occasions when the Governor had snuck out of his house and slipped his security detail. They would put out word among each other that "we lost the governor."

It takes two to tango. I would think Hillary's outrage should have been directed at Bill instead of the women he was screwing around with.

[phleshdef]

26. I honestly have always believed that Bill had a certain measure of permission to mess around.

But he was bad at establishing boundaries for himself.

If so, thats their business. I just wanted to throw a little water on "whore gate".

[karynnj]

29. Other than where there is domestic abuse, I would never second guess anyone's choices

Clearly, there was enough between them that she stayed. In fact, way back in 1992, that was pretty much what she said on the 60 minutes show where they spoke of Gennefer Flowers. Obviously even then, she had already had to publicly deal with his unfaithfulness more than once before. It was clear in 1998, that she was furious and very hurt, but she opted to stay with him.

As to anger, I think that she likely DID direct some at Bill and it was well deserved.

Still, it is very likely that they will be the first (and maybe only) husband and wife that both become President. For her sake, I hope he can behave during that time.

[Avalon Sparks]

43. I don't ....

Each marriage is unique to the individuals in them.

Aside form physical abuse, I would never judge a woman or man for staying, never.

I do agree Bill should get the brunt of her anger, but I have no problem calling out anyone that decides to pursue a relationship with a married person, if they are aware that person is married.

I can imagine Hillarys anger that he was talking that girl up right in front of her.

If it was me, a lot more likely would have happened then just name calling.

[Prism]

14. Her comments about Jews and LGBTers are also wonderful

The funny thing about Clinton is that people seem to think all of her dirty laundry isn't out there. She's had heated words about Jews and is really, really uncomfortable around LGBTers.

But it's primary time! Let's pretend!

I don't want someone with her temper in the Oval Office.

[geek tragedy]

15. Apparently some people never tire of discussing the Clenis nt

[riderinthestorm]

72. Actually the OP is about Hillary calling another woman a whore.

Not "corporate whore", just whore.

[JoePhilly]

19. Bernie's supporters are headed off the cliff and will probably take Bernie with them.

[phleshdef]

27. You've posted something to that effect in 2 or 3 threads now. You must think its a witty remark.

Its not.

[NurseJackie]

57. But it certainly appears to be truthful, in my opinion.

Besides, the frequency and repetitiveness of the same old cut-and-paste attacks on Hillary probably only deserve cut-and-paste retorts and observations. What exactly are you expecting?

[phleshdef]

60. I wasn't attacking Hillary.

[NurseJackie]

61. I know that.

[Dragonfli]

21. David Brock on Anita hill "She's a little bit slutty and a little bit nutty"

Hillary feminist (whom bare little resemblance to feminists dealing with real gender inequality issues), are just fine that He has the honor of directly coordinating with her campaign as head of a PAC that owns at least two media outlets and is tasked with speaking for her via his internet outreach.

Sometimes things become so surreal that things that are up appears down, and right appears left.

I think they should petition Hillary as her supporters to disavow him and his Super pack because ever since he victim blamed and slut shamed Anita Hill, a black woman of impeccable character just to get Clarence Thomas onto the Supreme court (a judge that would vote to overturn choice had he his druthers and the opportunity) he is really nothing more than a paid sleaze merchant who appears to be "a little bit racist and a little bit salacious"

[salinsky]

32. Bernie Bros wanting to talk issues again?

With such lofty rhetoric from his supporters, it's really remarkable that Bernie can't build a more diverse coalition.

[jmg257]

34. Hillary is apparently very vindictive of Bills girlfriends

Always has been.

[Avalon Sparks]

46. Bernie Supporter here but...

That's absolutely understandable.

I'd blow a gasket in the situation described in the original post if it were me and my husband.

[Dem2]

35. Any idea how bottom of the barrel desperate this looks?

I've sworn and said inappropriate things in my life too, it doesn't excuse everybody else in the world from applying standards to their own behavior.

Shame on you for going deep into the gutter here.

[phleshdef]

39. Oh nooooez, I feel SO ashamed!

You REALLY put me in my place! Whatever will I do?

[Dem2]

45. Never know

You might consider looking in the mirror and swearing off posting in anger?

[phleshdef]

47. I'm not angry. I'm extremely amused.

Your whole fake ass "shame on you" shtick is hilarious.

When I'm angry, I yell. When I'm amused, I mock. Right now, I'm mocking you.

[Dem2]

48. oh

So this post is real?


You've got to be kidding me.

[phleshdef]

49. I'll let you know when I'm kidding you.

Just as I let you know when I'm mocking you.

[Darb]

55. You should be ashamed.

I would be if I parroted winger bullshit in support of a decent man.

[phleshdef]

59. Its not winger bullshit.

I don't even care about this whole thing really. I just wanted to see some reactions to Hillary using the same word.

[Darb]

62. Yeah, whatev.

That mole is always on the up and up. You should believe everything he says.

[phleshdef]

63. Its very believable given what we all undeniably know about Bill.

And it pretty much lines up with the kinds of stories told by numerous people who worked in the Clinton White House.

[Darb]

64. Did you reference that on your trusty "Clinton Body-Count" poster?

My Granny had one on the back of her bathroom door. Where does yours hang?

[phleshdef]

65. I have no fucking clue what that even means.

[Darb]

66. Oh that's rich.

You spew ridi, bagger-fave talking points but have no clue where they come from? Do us Democrats a favor and bone up. That shit has been played out.

[phleshdef]

67. Wipe the fucking drool off your chin. Its unbecoming.

I didn't spew anything. Bill Clinton fucked around a LOT. Its undeniable. If you are attempting to deny it, that makes you a liar.

I'm a REAL Democrat. A New Deal Democrat... not a third way tool.

[TM99]

69. You have been here 2 years and have

your transparency page front and center.

The poster you are attacking in such a vile way has been here for 10 years and does not.

Do us a favor and check yourself before you start trying to check others.

This shit has been played out.

[phleshdef]

71. Yea, I've been a faithful Democratic party member since my early 20s. I'm going on 37 now.

[Arugula Latte]

38. Hillary is sexist!!!

[Surya Gayatri]

40. .../...

[Fawke Em]

58. That's Clinton's campaign slogan!

Brock looks good in a monkey suit.

[LuvLoogie]

42. So losing

[Jitter65]

52. Good for her! nt

[joshcryer]

70. Wait, she used the term literally, and accurately, and...

...what is the outrage.